Brixton news, rumour and general chat - February 2014

[ViolentPanda]

You will no doubt be as evasive as el-ahrairah when it comes to producing any kind of evidence that supports what you want to believe.

What is it that I want to believe? That el-hairball's claim that your "not-sures" are working-class, but don't fit your perception of what "working class" is? I don't have to provide evidence to support that. It's confirmable (or not) by what those individuals choose to state as to their class status.
Of course, being who you are, you'll probably choose to believe that nay declaration of class status is made purely to embarrass/gainsay you.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's why I have a fringe

Your forehead ridges, or your decolletage?

 

[Greebo]

In terms of my relationship to the means of production, I'm lumpen proletariat. OTOH according to that quiz of epic fail:

lower-lower middle class
You're basically Lister from Red Dwarf.

 

[teuchter]

What is it that I want to believe? That el-hairball's claim that your "not-sures" are working-class, but don't fit your perception of what "working class" is? I don't have to provide evidence to support that. It's confirmable (or not) by what those individuals choose to state as to their class status.
Of course, being who you are, you'll probably choose to believe that nay declaration of class status is made purely to embarrass/gainsay you.

You want to believe that I find a conflict in the notion that an articulate, literate poster can be "working class". You want to believe that's the reason I put various people down as my "not-sures", rather than some other reason that doesn't spring from me being the terrible, prejudiced bigot you'd like to see me revealed as. That's what you need to provide evidence for, and can't, because there isn't any.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You want to believe that I find a conflict in the notion that an articulate, literate poster can be "working class". You want to believe that's the reason I put various people down as my "not-sures", rather than some other reason that doesn't spring from me being the terrible, prejudiced bigot you'd like to see me revealed as. That's what you need to provide evidence for, and can't, because there isn't any.

Thanks for telling me what I want to believe.
Now, allow me to disabuse you. I don't think you're a "terrible, prejudiced bigot". I believe that you're a self-satisfied arse who occasionally has trouble distinguishing between being criticised and being abused, wholly on the basis that you're unable to separate them in your own posts.

Now please fuck off with telling me what I want to believe, there's a good chap.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

 

[teuchter]

Thanks for telling me what I want to believe.
Now, allow me to disabuse you. I don't think you're a "terrible, prejudiced bigot".

Why, then, did you so enthusiastically agree with el-ahrairah's theory which supposed that the reason behind my classification of some posters as "not-sures" was to do with my confusion and surprise that they are not "the semi-literate numbskulls the WC are meant to be"?

 

[editor]

Christ, this is tedious.

 

[Onket]

Christ, this is tedious.

Perhaps remove 'general chat' from the thread title?

 

[Onket]

Anyway, here's 'U75 The Stageshow' with Corbett playing Dexter Deadwood, Barker playing teuchter and Cleese playing Dan U (the fucking toff).

 

[editor]

Perhaps remove 'general chat' from the thread title?

That doesn't even make any sense in relation to my comment. Oh well. I'm sure you thought it was still a dreadfully sharp post.

 

[teuchter]

That doesn't even make any sense in relation to my comment. Oh well. I'm sure you thought it was still a dreadfully sharp post.

Christ, this is tedious.

 

[Onket]

That doesn't even make any sense in relation to my comment. Oh well. I'm sure you thought it was still a dreadfully sharp post.

I was lightheartedly giving you an 'out'.

You know, having a bit of fun. I'm sure you can remember how to do that.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Why, then, did you so enthusiastically agree with el-ahrairah's theory which supposed that the reason behind my classification of some posters as "not-sures" was to do with my confusion and surprise that they are not "the semi-literate numbskulls the WC are meant to be"?

perhaps you'd like to explain what the tells of class are, as based on someone's posts, and how you decided whether a poster was MC, WC, or you were unable to say?

 

[editor]

In some actual Brixton news, the Clink Restaurant at Brixton Prison is taking bookings and officially opens to the public on Thursday.

Edmond Tullett, Governor, HMP Brixton says: “Brixton is more than delighted to host the third Clink training restaurant in the Regency Roundhouse which dates back to 1819. The restaurant will provide an unforgettable experience for customers and an unrivalled opportunity for prisoners to acquire marketable skills that will lead to local jobs and provide a pathway to a better life.”

Find out more at Clink Charity.

 

[Manter]

In some actual Brixton news, the Clink Restaurant at Brixton Prison is taking bookings and officially opens to the public on Thursday.

I have submitted my security vetting request!

 

[editor]

I have submitted my security vetting request!

If you go, please write up a report!

 

[Manter]

If you go, please write up a report!

Will do. They are 'considering my request' and I had to write a paragraph about why I wanted to go too

 

[teuchter]

perhaps you'd like to explain what the tells of class are, as based on someone's posts, and how you decided whether a poster was MC, WC, or you were unable to say?

Some pretty simple things that people mention about themselves over time, such as the kind of work they do (or simple statement of the fact that they are from the offending class) makes it easy to make a positive MC guess in many cases.

Of course some of my guesses may have been wrong, or in dispute according to your favoured class definitions. I'm fairly sure that if I mis-accused anyone of being middle class they would have let me know, especially if in some way they were dreadfully offended by it, and if they requested evidence then I would either supply it or retract my accusation.

You and Violentpanda however are accusing me of something rather more unpleasant than being "middle class" and something that I would have some responsibility to alter if it were true. You are doing that and then refusing to back it up with any demonstration as to why it might be true. Life's too short, you say.

 

[TruXta]

Of course some of my guesses may have been wrong, or in dispute according to your favoured class definitions. I'm fairly sure that if I mis-accused anyone of being middle class they would have let me know, especially if in some way they were dreadfully offended by it, and if they requested evidence then I would either supply it or retract my accusation.

You had me down as middle-class. I'd dispute that, but fuck it, what's the point.

 

[BoxRoom]

In some actual Brixton news, the Clink Restaurant at Brixton Prison is taking bookings and officially opens to the public on Thursday.

Well up for seeing how this does. Unfortunately I can't give it a go because I don't drive or travel abroad so don't have the necessary ID. I don't have a cheque book either which is the only way you can pay for it.

Look forward to Manter's review!

 

[Manter]

Well up for seeing how this does. Unfortunately I can't give it a go because I don't drive or travel abroad so don't have the necessary ID. I don't have a cheque book either which is the only way you can pay for it.

Look forward to Manter's review!

if they let me in!!

If they don't I am going to get massively paranoid

 

[colacubes]

Will do. They are 'considering my request' and I had to write a paragraph about why I wanted to go too

I went to do the form, but reconsidered cos the OH can tick at least one of the boxes thus meaning I don't have to fill in the paragraph

 

[Manter]

I went to do the form, but reconsidered cos the OH can tick at least one of the boxes thus meaning I don't have to fill in the paragraph

So can mine. But I don't want to go with him

 

[colacubes]

So can mine. But I don't want to go with him

 

[Onket]

You had me down as middle-class. I'd dispute that, but fuck it, what's the point.

You'd lose?

 

[TruXta]

You'd lose?

That's my point, there's nothing to lose because teuchter's not a poster I can take even half-way seriously anymore. If there is a serious point there it's hidden behind so many layers of smugness that I've lost interest.

 

[friendofdorothy]

According to the other poll, I'm solid working class.

I don't like all this class stuff so I'm gonna form the odd bod class, if anyone wants to join me.

Never sure what class I am, but I'm repeating myself, haven't we had similar debate recently? Can I join the odd bods please.

My class is an enigma

Love the air of mystery. Very classy.

 

[Dan U]

Anyway, here's 'U75 The Stageshow' with Corbett playing Dexter Deadwood, Barker playing teuchter and Cleese playing Dan U (the fucking toff).

 

[sparkybird]

Will do. They are 'considering my request' and I had to write a paragraph about why I wanted to go too

Hey don't worry. they let any old riff raff in.... I'm in! Just wating for confirmation of the dates I put forward. V excited! It will be another prison to add to the list - Wandsworth and Holloway done and dusted (in a professional capacity, I hasten to add....)