Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
How does it enable people to vote against?
Brixton news, rumour and general chat - April 2015
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People en masse. They vote against by not voting
I very much would say the latter.If you look at the pledges you'll see it's not people donating a tenner each but mainly larger amounts.As per the video it seems mainly people in the wine trade who see a possible chance to get into another revenue stream for their jobs.
The whole thing is a bit stupid as they are going for £35,000 to totally refurb a space,hire workers,train them and buy stock.Given they are to be a PR outlet for NZ wine makers I'd have thought a) it's nowhere near enough and b) said wine makers could fund it out of petty cash.
This leads me to believe it is in fact a PR stunt all round.
Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
That's not the same thing at all.
Crispy
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I'm not sure you've thought this through.
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Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
As an aside Fay Maschler is really a terrible writer isn't she?
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
I have no problem with this either. If somebody wants to open a shop, people want to fund it and others want to shop there I can't see the issue with it per se.
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
The answer to local people not being able to access crowdfunding and similar is to help them do it. Teach local people to use modern methods to open and run their local businesses. Level the playing field to allow locals compete. That's a real start to Reclaiming Brixton I think.
cuppa tee
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well there's this.............
which was originally meant to a community project......... even in it's new form the illusion that " brixton locals" are a priority is being touted........
https://www.thecollective.co.uk/the-collectivist/pop-brixton--think-outside-the-box
so how come a wine shop from the other side of the planet is jumping the queue ?
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Because they got 35K in their pocket from wealthy investors posing as kick start funders...
So what are the objections here, that the capital is being raised the wrong way?
So it's okay if the capital is raised .... how? High street banks?
So it's okay if the capital is raised .... how? High street banks?
cuppa tee
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Personally I couldnt care less how the lucre is raised although the kickstarter thing does look a bit suspect, whats your POV on a local "community project" larging it on twitter about a new zealand wine merchant popping up at a venue where locals are supposed to get "first dibs"
superfly101
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Neither can I tbf.
If I want a nice bottle of wine I'll go to Oddbins by Clapham Common tube.
Their staff have always been brilliant; give them a flavour profile, what you want to do with it and a price range = job done.
Although now part of Threshers their buyers rather than buy popular brands (like supermarkets) still buy tasty wine.
Aus/NewZ wine was a big thing in the 90/00's - drought and shite grape crops since then you're paying for brand name over quality of the wine - which after taxes the wine in it anyway is about 10% of the bottle price!
Dad use to brew his own wine and beer and was a subscriber to the Which wine guide. Jacobs Creek Chardonnay use to be £2.99 in 1996 when it won it's gold award. Took every bottle they had out of a Bridgend supermarket.
I would rather give it to a tramp to drink and then that tramp piss in my mouth than drink the stuff now. I'd actually feel sorry/guilty for the tramp filtering the taste for me!
Oh the people running pop Brix are total chancers. Diffent issue, of course.
DietCokeGirl
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Ok, let's crowdfund an Urban unit at Pop, and use it for.....whatever the best ideas we can come up with are. A not-for-profit community centre/drop-in space with art and music and food provided by local schools, mental health service user groups, refugee groups, whatever. Or to be more realistic, a commercial space but focusing products and services from marginalised groups.
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Mation
real life adventure worth more than pieces of gold
But even if local people did that, they'd have to run whatever business in a way that covered the increased overheads that result from gentrification and so the result would still be exclusive to the (former) community. It wouldn't work.
superfly101
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Time to write the Urban75 "mission" statement!
DietCokeGirl
Fishing in the rivers of life
Can you imagine? Us lot couldn't agree on a font to write an application in, let alone the rest.
Racist
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
As an aside, some people here seem to have the financial convictions of a goldfish.
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What does that mean and why are you bringing it up?
cuppa tee
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From their mission statement:
Yet Pop Brixton are already warmly welcoming a New Zealand wine exporter on board with zero connections to the area, and hosting the results of an exclusive architecture competition with zero connections to the area.
Twattor
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To be fair, it does say she's been in London for 10 years. Are we now adopting a policy where immigrants are discouraged from starting businesses in Brixton?
If so, then someone had better call Farage...
LOL. To quote from above "I'm not sure you've thought this through."
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I missed that to be honest, but her reasons for wanting to open in Brixton seem to have fuck all to do with the actual area or becoming part of the community, but everything to do with it being a lucrative business opportunity for herself.
I don't see her mentioning any connections with Brixton either.
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hiraethified
What long term connections does she have with Brixton, then?
She works as the head wine buyer for The Providores and Tapa Room. Neither are anywhere near Brixton.
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