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Brixton news, rumour and general chat - April 2015

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deadringer said:
If only this vast majority from your resident association meetings had some tech savvy person who knows his way around the internet to help them set up and market a crowdfunded idea.
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If that's supposed to be a dig at me, I have no idea how to set up a crowdfunding appeal, neither do I have the slightest idea about how to set up a business, market a business or run a business. And even if I did, I'm not sure I'd have the time or much inclination to go around giving up my time to help other people set up their own personal business projects.
 
Maybe after a successful arches fight the energy its generated could be funneled into working for a greater Brixton local led economy? Teach locals what it needs to set up a business.

Everybody has different skills. I'd have absolutely no way of knowing how to organize /carry on something like that but I have skills that would be valuable and would love to help any organization like it

Gentrification is here to stay, the way to save the older Brixton is be as good as the people coming in. Then you are automatically better
 
Mr Retro said:
Gentrification is here to stay, the way to save the older Brixton is be as good as the people coming in. Then you are automatically better
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This is such patent nonsense. If you run a budget carpet shop or a phone card stall or a traditional greengrocer, your business model / profit margin is not going to allow you to pay rent at the same level as a swanky deli or a high end wine shop.

If you put up the prices for your phone cards or your carpets to a level where you could afford the rents at pop brixton (from what I have heard) or the tripled rents in the arches then you are no longer meeting a need, either of the existing community or the new brixtonites, and won't sell anything, which doesn't sound better.
 
This is not about Nu Brixton versus old Brixton, this is about class.
This is about middle class people invading an area enmass and taking everything including our homes. They bring with them an appalling attitude that borders on undisguised contempt for the poor.
They are not frightened of the blacks anymore, they're not frightened of the poor anymore. They've got security, they have always had security; mummy and daddy gave it to them, the state gave it to them to keep the working class in their place and now they want that as well.

And why not? Because there was nothing in Brixton other than turmoil and tumbleweed before they arrived to gentrify the area, they are our saviours, we should be grateful, we should doff our caps and marvel at their wealth creation that can't even create local jobs let alone pay people a Living Wage.

They are Thatcher's children, "we really must do something about those inner cities" and when they go and vote for their politicians in their panto parliament i hope they feel betrayed when interests rates rise after a sham election, i hope they cry when their poncy pop up world implodes, i hope they sink in a sea of negative equity.

It will be the working class who pick up the pieces of a precariat, predatory, pop up economy because that's what we always do; we always do the dirty work.
 
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...judge these middle class types by where they send their darling off spring to school. they'll scarper as soon as little Tobias is out of nappies. Brixton gives them a few years of swanning around, feeling edgy (just as, i dare to guess, a lot of the original gentrifiers who moved in 10-20 years ago did!).
 
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it;s shit but it's the market, init. the same free market that created the business that people are trying to protect now. it's the game that's shit, not really the players. you cannot really condem people for setting up wanky businesses that wanky people are stupid enough to spunk their dollar on. imo, as long as the social housing and social housing rents are looked after, then the rest is, sadly, fair game. capitalism, innit.
 
also - has anyone asked working class people in brixton what they prefer - old or nu brixton? there seems to be a consensus on here that they hate it. but how do we know that for sure? hhmmm seems like guess work.
 
...and isn't urban75 one of the biggest forces of brixton gentrification going? just sling the world brixton into (evil capitalist) google and this site comes up, attracting mainly, i would guess, young professionals looking for somewhere to live and visit? maybe one way of reversing brixton gentrification is taking this massive, massive site down and putting brixton a bit under the radar again???
 
peterkro said:
I very much would say the latter.If you look at the pledges you'll see it's not people donating a tenner each but mainly larger amounts.As per the video it seems mainly people in the wine trade who see a possible chance to get into another revenue stream for their jobs.
The whole thing is a bit stupid as they are going for £35,000 to totally refurb a space,hire workers,train them and buy stock.Given they are to be a PR outlet for NZ wine makers I'd have thought a) it's nowhere near enough and b) said wine makers could fund it out of petty cash.
This leads me to believe it is in fact a PR stunt all round.
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That is quite ridiculous.
 
Lambeth Council has published the runners and riders for the three Brixton constituencies in the General Election. No great surprises. It's great to see some of the fringe parties appearing though: Pirate Party, Cannabis is Safer than Alcohol Party and... the Whig Party :D

BBuzz piece.
 
innit said:
This is such patent nonsense. If you run a budget carpet shop or a phone card stall or a traditional greengrocer, your business model / profit margin is not going to allow you to pay rent at the same level as a swanky deli or a high end wine shop.

If you put up the prices for your phone cards or your carpets to a level where you could afford the rents at pop brixton (from what I have heard) or the tripled rents in the arches then you are no longer meeting a need, either of the existing community or the new brixtonites, and won't sell anything, which doesn't sound better.
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I'm not talking about moving a carpet shop to Pop Brixton. Those people need different help from places like the council and organizations like Save the Arches

I'm thinking of people in the area with ideas for their own business like the restaurants, delis and bars coming in. There is an appetite for these businesses in Brixton now, like it or not. It's going to grow. Why can't locals be skilled up to provide them?

I'm trying to realistic and respond positively to the inevitable changes. Maybe I'm patently talking nonsense like you say though. What's your suggestion?
 
BigMoaner said:
...and isn't urban75 one of the biggest forces of brixton gentrification going? just sling the world brixton into (evil capitalist) google and this site comes up, attracting mainly, i would guess, young professionals looking for somewhere to live and visit? maybe one way of reversing brixton gentrification is taking this massive, massive site down and putting brixton a bit under the radar again???
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When you talk about brixtonbuzz, a listings site prominently featuring the kind of places that get so much stick here, there is a direct link with gentrification.

And that's all well and good in context. But then to have endless snearing, self-righteousness and inverse snobbery is hypocritical
 
Tricky Skills said:
Lambeth Council has published the runners and riders for the three Brixton constituencies in the General Election. No great surprises. It's great to see some of the fringe parties appearing though: Pirate Party, Cannabis is Safer than Alcohol Party and... the Whig Party :D

BBuzz piece.
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What's with "Artificial Beast". He/she seems to be pitching for the Green cannabis vote.
Is this a variant of the 1990s practice - subsequently outlawed (Literal Democrat)?
 
BigMoaner said:
...and isn't urban75 one of the biggest forces of brixton gentrification going? just sling the world brixton into (evil capitalist) google and this site comes up, attracting mainly, i would guess, young professionals looking for somewhere to live and visit? maybe one way of reversing brixton gentrification is taking this massive, massive site down and putting brixton a bit under the radar again???
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That is patent rubbish. The joys of foodie-heaven Nu Brixton have regularly been slapped over websites and national and international papers and magazines for years and they're generally the ones pushing and promoting the happy clappy "isn't Brixton simply divine for young professionals!" image.

And then there's the estate agents spinning their guff and all the property developer features...
 
Mr Retro said:
I'm not talking about moving a carpet shop to Pop Brixton. Those people need different help from places like the council and organizations like Save the Arches

I'm thinking of people in the area with ideas for their own business like the restaurants, delis and bars coming in. There is an appetite for these businesses in Brixton now, like it or not. It's going to grow. Why can't locals be skilled up to provide them?

I'm trying to realistic and respond positively to the inevitable changes. Maybe I'm patently talking nonsense like you say though. What's your suggestion?
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You said "the way to save the older Brixton". Local people opening new delis and bars could be ok, but it's not what I, or I suspect most people, think of as the 'older Brixton'.

As for pop brixton, I hesitate a bit as what I've heard is really just gossip but my suggestion for them if (biiig if!) they genuinely want to see more local people taking units would be to listen to traders who know what there is demand for in terms of business mix, realistic rents and opening hours instead of trying to impose a very inflexible framework that won't appeal to traders who know what there is a market for.
 
Mr Retro said:
I'm not talking about moving a carpet shop to Pop Brixton. Those people need different help from places like the council and organizations like Save the Arches

I'm thinking of people in the area with ideas for their own business like the restaurants, delis and bars coming in. There is an appetite for these businesses in Brixton now, like it or not. It's going to grow. Why can't locals be skilled up to provide them?

I'm trying to realistic and respond positively to the inevitable changes. Maybe I'm patently talking nonsense like you say though. What's your suggestion?
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That's how the Village started out and I supported it. Locals were given a chance to start up their own businesses. But then the big money came in and the locals were turfed out, as businesses that didn't give a shit about Brixton ten years smelt money and waved their wads around accordingly.
 
editor said:
neither do I have the slightest idea about how to set up a business, market a business or run a business
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I'm glad you wrote that. All your future pronouncements on people that do have the know how, but for some reason meet with your disapproval because of the blinkered criteria you set within your own personal viewpoint can henceforth be truly taken with a pinch of salt.
 
the pop up box village thing in shoreditch is nearly always empty when i pass it on thursday evenings, but there is always a load of footfall walking past it.

i give the brixton one a year.
 
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I'm glad you wrote that. All your future pronouncements on people that do have the know how, but for some reason meet with your disapproval because of the blinkered criteria you set within your own personal viewpoint can henceforth be truly taken with a pinch of salt.
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What a bizarre argument. Just like anyone else, I'm perfectly entitled to have an opinion on the businesses moving in to my area regardless of whether I have run a business myself.
 
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