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I think the black cab guys are missing a trick. They should be actively campaigning for LTNs if they get an exception. If you think about it, pre sat-nav, you had to have local knowledge (or the knowledge) to travel round the back streets, now all you need is the sat-nav, hence Uber and everyone else which is causing these rat runs. LTNs could help their cause as they’d have an advantage once again.
 
Anti LTN-er sentenced for harassing Florence Eshalomi:


I’m sure some will make excuses but it does seem lots are helping to whip this up as shown by OneLambeth’s Twitter posts & the Facebook group.

Article also says he got wound up by talk radio. People should really try and calm this down.
 
I don't understand some of this, so you do not want this woman to gain easier access to the roads for those with severe and complex medical and/or learning needs? Will London then be more excellent for this already marginalised and segregated group?
I want women like ms Sheikh, and men too, who may have to rely on cars to have no problem relying on them at all. By forcing the vast majority of unnecessary journeys off our streets. then yes, London will be more excellent for that already marginalised group. And for you and me, too.

Too many Cars, not ltns, are what cause the problem.
 
I want women like ms Sheikh, and men too, who may have to rely on cars to have no problem relying on them at all. By forcing the vast majority of unnecessary journeys off our streets. then yes, London will be more excellent for that already marginalised group. And for you and me, too.

Too many Cars, not ltns, are what cause the problem.
I'm afraid in order for this to happen, she needs to have some success. Lambeth didn't care about this issue til there was legal action. The money wasters are them, for not doing things properly and fairly in the first place thus being morally in the wrong but also alienating groups who would have been on board and creating opportunity for problems and dissent.
 
OneLambeth going full on at Claire Holland.

chowce5382 - if you’re still following this, in light of the news above about Florence Eshalomi, have a word with whoever’s posting this as it can’t be helping your cause and could get pretty dangerous.

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OneLambeth going full on at Claire Holland.

chowce5382 - if you’re still following this, in light of the news above about Florence Eshalomi, have a word with whoever’s posting this as it can’t be helping your cause and could get pretty dangerous.

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Yup, still following this on the odd days but just waiting for the judgement and will go from there. It’s been very draining getting this far given we have no real resources so I’m taking some time to deal with everything else in life which is going wrong at the moment. Sorry I can’t be more engaging but I’m just interested in hearing the legal arguments and need to deal with a raft of other things. Hope you’re all well and not too frustrated about the continued lockdown. Sure we’ll talk soon 😊
 
Yup, still following this on the odd days but just waiting for the judgement and will go from there. It’s been very draining getting this far given we have no real resources so I’m taking some time to deal with everything else in life which is going wrong at the moment. Sorry I can’t be more engaging but I’m just interested in hearing the legal arguments and need to deal with a raft of other things. Hope you’re all well and not too frustrated about the continued lockdown. Sure we’ll talk soon 😊

Huh - did you read my post?
 
Yes I did. Please just read what I’ve said above and respect that I need a break from things at the moment. I’m trying to be open and have just pretty much told you why. Thanks

It’s your campaign, I think you need to take some responsibility, they’re talking on your behalf and so looks like you condone it.
 
Sorry, I don’t want to be rude and sorry to hear if you’re having a tough time but that account is just stiring up hate and this could get dangerous. It’s representing you and really isn’t helping anyone’s cause.
 
It’s your campaign, I think you need to take some responsibility, they’re talking on your behalf and so looks like you condone it.
Thanks for your advice and thoughts Ed. Please just re-read what I’ve said and try to read between the lines to see what im trying to say given what has been going on in the world for the last 18 months.
 
Sorry, I don’t want to be rude and sorry to hear if you’re having a tough time but that account is just stiring up hate and this could get dangerous. It’s representing you and really isn’t helping anyone’s cause.

I'm a bit at a loss here. I unlike you don't spend a lot of time looking at twitter /FB of people I don't agree with.

chowce5382 has come on here as new poster and my impression is that you are making him answer for any postings on the twitter /FB world of social media. Which is full of people mouthing off and other unpleasantness.

chowce5382 has been supporting a disabled lady in her case against Lambeth, gone down the legal route yet repeatedly your making him responsible for any post on the imo rather unpleasant world of mainstream social media. Why?

I use Twitter, FB and Instagram in sparing fashion. So as not to let myself get wound up.

I think, whether you agree with him or not, he has tried to take course in personal level of responsible legal route of opposing LTNs using the processes that the law allows.
 
I'm a bit at a loss here. I unlike you don't spend a lot of time looking at twitter /FB of people I don't agree with.

chowce5382 has come on here as new poster and my impression is that you are making him answer for any postings on the twitter /FB world of social media. Which is full of people mouthing off and other unpleasantness.

chowce5382 has been supporting a disabled lady in her case against Lambeth, gone down the legal route yet repeatedly your making him responsible for any post on the imo rather unpleasant world of mainstream social media. Why?

I use Twitter, FB and Instagram in sparing fashion. So as not to let myself get wound up.

I think, whether you agree with him or not, he has tried to take course in personal level of responsible legal route of opposing LTNs using the processes that the law allows.

I’m not sure you actually read anyone’s posts. As I mentioned the Twitter account is representing the OneLambeth campaign that chowce5382 is treasurer of. I’m hardly trawling social media as you try and make out.

It’s posts are whipping up hate and are pretty unhinged. I can’t see what their end game is. It makes no sense for a campaigning organisation to do that and is frankly dangerous.

I was asking chowce5382 to only answer for postings by his own organisation which seemed fair. I’m not going to pursue it, but you can hardly take a moral high ground when that’s the public face of your own organisation.

What do you think of OneLambeth posts?
 
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I'm a bit at a loss here. I unlike you don't spend a lot of time looking at twitter /FB of people I don't agree with.

chowce5382 has come on here as new poster and my impression is that you are making him answer for any postings on the twitter /FB world of social media. Which is full of people mouthing off and other unpleasantness.

chowce5382 has been supporting a disabled lady in her case against Lambeth, gone down the legal route yet repeatedly your making him responsible for any post on the imo rather unpleasant world of mainstream social media. Why?

I use Twitter, FB and Instagram in sparing fashion. So as not to let myself get wound up.

I think, whether you agree with him or not, he has tried to take course in personal level of responsible legal route of opposing LTNs using the processes that the law allows.
Why are you getting involved? Chowce5382 asked people to wait for the judgment which everyone has done so why rake it up again?
 
How does this vandalism send any message apart from wanting to drive where they want?

It doesn’t give a message about disability rights or anything else. It just comes across as very aggressive.
What exactly does vandalism achieve? I don't understand how anyone can think is OK?
 
How does this vandalism send any message apart from wanting to drive where they want?

It doesn’t give a message about disability rights or anything else. It just comes across as very aggressive.
That's because the vast majority of these cunts don't give a flying fuck about disability rights. It's about them, and their cars. That's it. That's all they have.
 
It’d be great to hear an actual opinion on LTNs from you rather than they need better consultation. What are your views?

Done that enough on this thread.

I don't now if your trying to insinuate I'm against them. I hope not.

I do think proper consultation and Co producing with local communities changes to public realm prior to any changes is something a self styled Coop Council should do.

That local communities could have worked with Council to define what a Liveable Neighbourhood is for each local area within the Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood area, what the outcomes should be, how they are to be measured.

This is not how its been done.
 
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Done that enough on this thread.

I don't now if your trying to insinuate I'm against them. I hope not.

I do think proper consultation and Co producing with local communities changes to public realm prior to any changes is something a self styled Coop Council should do.

That local communities could have worked with Council to define what a Liveable Neighbourhood is, what the outcomes should be, how they are to be measured.

This is not how its been done.

Sorry if I haven’t read the whole thread & im not trying to institute anything but I’d like to know your views. I’ve read a fair bit and can’t say I’ve seen them.

It’s one think to want better consultation and community engagement but you must have your own opinions.
 
I took the picture, it’s Roupell Rd. They’ve done this to Upper Tulse Hill signs and others in Streatham Hill. Seems such an aggressive action.
How does this vandalism send any message apart from wanting to drive where they want?

It doesn’t give a message about disability rights or anything else. It just comes across as very aggressive.
Unclear whether it's foxes or squirrels this time.
It had crossed my mind that the way this whole issue has become polarised and toxic that extreme LTN supporters could be doing it to make the anti’s look bad....
 
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