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had my haircut yesterday :)

and yeh..forgot about that. It was only once and it was Pangea for some post Soap awards party for carts. big mistake
 
pboi said:
had my haircut yesterday :)

and yeh..forgot about that. It was only once and it was Pangea for some post Soap awards party for carts. big mistake
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Never an excuse for jeans and blazer...once worn there's no return.

You are the man at C & A :(
 
Nanker Phelge said:
The Brockwell Park Tavern did a fantastic roast for a fiver, and so vast was it that I often couldn't finish it all. A proper meal, for a decent price, in a proper old pub...which, admittedly, wasn't in the best shape, yet still managed to draw a crowd, serve a decent pint and make good food without pandering to the whims of Herne Hill Village set.

The Florence atracts self-satisfied smug-a-lugs. Half of them sit around with their kids, brimming with that self-contratulatory air of 'look at me, I've pro-created and isn't my baby just the best' while chomping on a trendy burger and a side order of chunky chips, while the other half, the young professionals, all hair gel, sarcasm and credit card debt, get pissed on medium range wines, noses half cocked at the range rover pushchair brigade, and praying that Monday morning and their dull fucking city boy jobs never appear at the end of their hangover....(but mummy loves them.)

My son (12) and I went in one weekday for lunch, sat at one of their 'booths' - some wanky little fuckweed approached us and told us that children were not allowed to sit in view of the bar because of the law...not only was this bollocks, which I told him, he then went on to say that the manager did not want children to sit in view of the bar....obviously I told him to shove his menu up his arse and then the manager's arse should he so wish to.

Now, in my view, if your gonna invite parents into the place with their kids then segregation is not best way to attract their money - but clearly the Herne Hill Village (of is it lower Dulwich) brigade are quite happy to be shoved in the back with their offspring. but, in my view, if you let kids in, then you let kids in, don't push 'em aside or out of the way, while taking the money out of their parents hands.

The other times I've been in there, the prices for food and drink are just plain silly. £7 for a burger on it's own is ridiculous. I've been out today and had a Chicken Breast, with bacon and cheese, with chips, for £6.95, freshly prepared and cooked....£7 without anything on the side is a fucking rip off.

Anyway...if Pboi and his ilk go there, then they're out of my way..so for that reason alone the Florence at least serves a purpose.
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Nanker Phelge - why are you so full of hate?
 
Kicked off big time outside the Brixton 'Sports' and Social Club on Coldharbour/Moorlands Rd. Police with machine guns spotted! Seems to have calmed down a bit. Don't know what was going down.
 
RaverDrew said:
When decent boozers become yuppie playgrounds it hardly puts a smile on your face :(
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It's the way in which these re-branded pubs exclude the pre-existing community that bothers me more. There are shit pubs aplenty, but when a whole area closes it's local pubs down and has them replaced by gastro-trendy bars, then whole groups of people are driven away by the prices these places charge.

Pboi's comments, which I believe are not uncommon, suggest that if you're not prepared to pay £7 for a burger then you're automatically 'downgraded' to McDonalds or Wetherspoons status. Is that fair?

Herne Hills a nice little area, and still with character. I'm looking to buy there myself within the next few months, but I wouldn't want to see all it's character, and it's characters, cast aside for an overpriced lamb and coriander burger.
 
maybe the argument is if these new places are successful then the community has changed and so the amenities reflecting it? im sure some old school boozers still exist.
 
editor said:
Guy got stabbed in the neck and died. It's not the most welcoming of places if your face doesn't fit.
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I've come past on a bus late at night, and I would certainly agree with your analysis of the place - and that's from the safety of a passing bus, let alone trying to go inside.
 
Anyone else kept up all night on Friday by a party on Leander Road? As if the music itself wasn't bad enough, they had an MC shouting over the top of it. We went and slept on the floor in our front room to avoid it, but my neighbours say it went on until 6am.

We got the Lambeth Noise Squad out in the end - they came round and had a listen at 2.30. Annoyingly, as always happens, the music was the softest, or least loud it had been all night, and the MC was clearly away from the mic on a piss break.
 
pboi said:
maybe the argument is if these new places are successful then the community has changed and so the amenities reflecting it? im sure some old school boozers still exist.
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It's not about old school/new school. Communities will alter, but they don't just change overnight. The fact is that we live in an area that has £1/2 million+ dwellings alongside housing estates, therefore the community is mixed. If local businesses exclude those in the lower income brackets, then they actively partake in the segregation of the community. Now this may suit you and the clientele of the Florence, but it does little for those left behind and creates a culture of resentment and anger amongst them. This manifests itself in ways that are harmful to the community.

Some of us plan to live in this area for a long time to come and I would like to see a community that is healthy, thriving and diverse, and I'm not sure that places like the Florence & Prince Regent actually do anything to support that?

I'm not sure that I do yet either....but that's another story.
 
Nanker Phelge said:
It's not about old school/new school. Communities will alter, but they don't just change overnight. The fact is that we live in an area that has £1/2 million+ dwellings alongside housing estates, therefore the community is mixed. If local businesses exclude those in the lower income brackets, then they actively partake in the segregation of the community. Now this may suit you and the clientele of the Florence, but it does little for those left behind and creates a culture of resentment and anger amongst them. This manifests itself in ways that are harmful to the community.

Some of us plan to live in this area for a long time to come and I would like to see a community that is healthy, thriving and diverse, and I'm not sure that places like the Florence & Prince Regent actually do anything to support that?

I'm not sure that I do yet either....but that's another story.
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I wonder how many pensioners go in The Florence?
 
struggling to walk old :) one of them was on half pints of guiness and the other G and Ts. The other didnt want to drink cos she hadnt had her pills!! They got all flustered when my friend had trouble with her contact lense. old dears :p
 
pboi said:
struggling to walk old :) one of them was on half pints of guiness and the other G and Ts. The other didnt want to drink cos she hadnt had her pills!! They got all flustered when my friend had trouble with her contact lense. old dears :p
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Maybe it was their weekly outing?
 
pboi said:
you make a good point, but you speak as if all local businesses are excluding, which they are not in anyway
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No, what I am saying is that these businesses target an income bracket that is not inclusive of everyone in the area, and I don't feel that this is good for the area.

Herne Hill felt a lot more balanced before The Commercial, The Brockwell Park Tavern and the Prince Regent became more 'upmarket'.
 
I think its within the buiness's rights to target whoever they want. You cant appeal to everyone, you could say its good for the area in that it caters for a more representative demographic
 
those particular old people? I have never seen them there, but then ive probably been to the florence ...12 times? and not always Sat night
 
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