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Think this topic has already been done to death several times, thanks.
But they keep getting in new staff who think we are vibrant and edgy and even masochistic. Can't help it Ed if I speak my mind at a public meeting. That's why I was deselected after all! (as was Anna)

I should also add that there was a blind lady from Gresham Road there complaining about her bin not being put back, but being left on the street after collection (done to death).

She even went so far as to say "I used to give then Christmas Boxes, but they can't take it now. They're not allowed!"

To which I replied "Funny council isn't it?. You can be a corrupt planning officer, but not a corrupt dustman!"

Sharp intake of breath all round (ask Alan Piper if you don't believe ME Alan was next to me all evening)
 
Bicycles are a menace to pedestrians - both at traffic lights and on the pavement

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what people riding bikes, locked up bikes, bikes stopped at red lights? why not help make conditions better for people who want to get around in a way thats quiet, efficient and non polluting rather than resorting to the above. You could point out where conflict between pedestrians and people on bikes is occurring and maybe ask that cars stored on the road are removed to provide space for unobstructed bike lanes or which traffic lights cause problems and keep on at TFL and DFT and council to make junctions safe for all not prioritised for motor vehicle so called capacity…
 
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what people riding bikes, locked up bikes, bikes stopped at red lights? why not help make conditions better for people who want to get around in a way thats quiet, efficient and non polluting rather than resorting to the above. You could point out where conflict between pedestrians and people on bikes is occurring and maybe ask that cars stored on the road are removed to provide space for unobstructed bike lanes or which traffic lights cause problems and keep on at TFL and DFT and council to make junctions safe for all not prioritised for motor vehicle so called capacity…
Sorry I've had to put up with a dyslexic illiterate cyclist manager at work with seven years of harassment. And his dysllexic cyclist friends. Can't help you on this one - sends my blood presure up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why do cyclists constantly jump lights - esp. on pelican crossings? Selfish c**ts in my view!!!
 
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what people riding bikes, locked up bikes, bikes stopped at red lights? why not help make conditions better for people who want to get around in a way thats quiet, efficient and non polluting rather than resorting to the above. You could point out where conflict between pedestrians and people on bikes is occurring and maybe ask that cars stored on the road are removed to provide space for unobstructed bike lanes or which traffic lights cause problems and keep on at TFL and DFT and council to make junctions safe for all not prioritised for motor vehicle so called capacity…
Anyone who uses a bus passing round the Stockwell roundabout will know that the ONLY time the roundabout works properly is when the traffic lights fail!!!
 
Some interesting articles on the gentrification going on in the Bronx, NY if anyone's interested:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/26/n...d-in-the-south-bronx-gentrifies.html?_r=1&hpw
http://bronxmatters.com/2012/03/26/...es-south-bronx-is-gentrifying-but-is-it-true/

No one probably cares: I've only lived here a year, so you could say I'm one of the imposter yuppie villaaaagers --but we only moved here because we couldn't afford anywhere else, had to find somewhere ASAP and not too far out. I thought it might be a little dodgy after getting off the train at Loughborough (understandably?), along with the typical ignorance most foreigners hold; Brixton = the Clash or references to riots. But we found a place quickly and stayed. I found out how great it was afterwords, which is lucky. I don't really even leave the area now because I have all I need here and I generally love the people and the vibe. Even if I could escape my shit flat sharing I would want to stay around.

So I'm a nu-brixton wanker, but in a different way. I'm just poor. Someone will have to introduce a rating system.

And now that it feels a little bit more like a new home to me, I don't really like the idea of people coming in and treating it as a hipster theme park either; something like that happened in another city I lived in and all I can say is that if the culture and vibe of the place is strong enough it'll survive no matter how many new cars are parked around. Obviously putting up a fight when it comes to housing issues and quality of life is the most important part and everybody on these forums seems well-informed and active so that's a positive thing. As bad as change can some times be I don't think there's any problem with being cautious yet... optimistic? Or is that not very British

That's just my outsider POV
 
You are right - exactly the same kind of thing.
But are those New York Times articles long! If you're used to the Sun and the FT as I am these articles go on for an age. Journos in USA must like the sound of their own voice!

Back in 1985 we had a spate of articles in the gutter press "Brixton twice as deadly as Precinct 46 the Bronx" Maybe you could enlighten us about what Precinct 46 was and is and whether YOU think it is comparable to Brixton?
I did not feel at the time (1985) that Brixton was likely to be twice as dangerous as New York.
I very easily got the crime stats out of New York - just rang them up and they gave them to me.
It was very different with Brixton police. They were obstructive and defensive and I have to get outside help to actually get the facts. In the end it turned out that the situation was more or less the opposite to what the Sun had claimed.
I took them to the press council and won - an apology on page 27.
 
You are right - exactly the same kind of thing.
But are those New York Times articles long! If you're used to the Sun and the FT as I am these articles go on for an age. Journos in USA must like the sound of their own voice!

Back in 1985 we had a spate of articles in the gutter press "Brixton twice as deadly as Precinct 46 the Bronx" Maybe you could enlighten us about what Precinct 46 was and is and whether YOU think it is comparable to Brixton?
I did not feel at the time (1985) that Brixton was likely to be twice as dangerous as New York.
I very easily got the crime stats out of New York - just rang them up and they gave them to me.
It was very different with Brixton police. They were obstructive and defensive and I have to get outside help to actually get the facts. In the end it turned out that the situation was more or less the opposite to what the Sun had claimed.
I took them to the press council and won - an apology on page 27.

No way on earth did I ever think to compare Brixton with New York despite all the stupid newspaper articles. I thought New York sounded 10 times worse :D although probably heavily influenced by films like Death Wish and Assault on Precinct 13 :oops:
 
No way on earth did I ever think to compare Brixton with New York despite all the stupid newspaper articles. I thought New York sounded 10 times worse :D although probably heavily influenced by films like Death Wish and Assault on Precinct 13 :oops:
My own experience of the USA makes me with-hold your like!

I've been to Chicago several times - in the early 1990s and had quite reassuringly positive experiences - except one. The gay zone round North Clark is a bit Brixton-y. Many people in Chicago thought at that time it was "dangerous", but apart from having a load of valuables stolen in a bath-house in 1991 - an inside job it would appear - can't see why.

I really must write a novel - all these risky behaviours - I forgot quite how bad I'd been! I lost my airline ticket in the 1991 incident - and the manager linked me with the cleaner (so to speak), who took me to a room where the emptyings of all the rubbish bins were stored. Told me to go through the lot - which I did & got my airline ticket back. Never got my Seiko watch (a bit naff by Chicago standards I would have thought), didn't get the cash, travellers cheques (this is 1991) or any darned thing else!
In the morning I asked to call the police ('cos of the credit cards detc.) and the attendant/manager said "Just Hold on, I have to get Chuck." Rang his boss Chuck (at home I think) and was told to let me call the police from the staff phone. Right mafia lot they were - Man's Country (still trading evidently). The web site shows all semi-clad white men - but I saw very few white men there at all. The first time I set foot in the place in February 1990 I just couldn't believe my eyes - all these gay black men. Not something you would have seen in London at that time.
Note rule24: I am into barebacking, is this allowed in your club?
Thanks for sharing and sorry to hear that, so if you're caught promoting unsafe sex in our club, you will be asked to leave the club immediately! If you insist, your membership will be terminated!
I reckon going to a bath-house is a bit like going to Clapham Common. It's actually a voluntary arrangement. Can't blame ALL American ghettos just 'cos one bathhouse in one Ghetto had a corrupt attendant!

Maybe a lot of ghettos in America are hyped. My auntie lived in South Park - in 1986 feared like Brixton used to be, now edgy and trendy like Brixton is now.
 
My own experience of the USA makes me with-hold your like!

I've been to Chicago several times - in the early 1990s and had quite reassuringly positive experiences - except one. The gay zone round North Clark is a bit Brixton-y. Many people in Chicago thought at that time it was "dangerous", but apart from having a load of valuables stolen in a bath-house in 1991 - an inside job it would appear - can't see why.

I really must write a novel - all these risky behaviours - I forgot quite how bad I'd been! I lost my airline ticket in the 1991 incident - and the manager linked me with the cleaner (so to speak), who took me to a room where the emptyings of all the rubbish bins were stored. Told me to go through the lot - which I did & got my airline ticket back. Never got my Seiko watch (a bit naff by Chicago standards I would have thought), didn't get the cash, travellers cheques (this is 1991) or any darned thing else!
In the morning I asked to call the police ('cos of the credit cards detc.) and the attendant/manager said "Just Hold on, I have to get Chuck." Rang his boss Chuck (at home I think) and was told to let me call the police from the staff phone. Right mafia lot they were - Man's Country (still trading evidently). The web site shows all semi-clad white men - but I saw very few white men there at all. The first time I set foot in the place in February 1990 I just couldn't believe my eyes - all these gay black men. Not something you would have seen in London at that time.
Note rule24: I am into barebacking, is this allowed in your club?
Thanks for sharing and sorry to hear that, so if you're caught promoting unsafe sex in our club, you will be asked to leave the club immediately! If you insist, your membership will be terminated!
I reckon going to a bath-house is a bit like going to Clapham Common. It's actually a voluntary arrangement. Can't blame ALL American ghettos just 'cos one bathhouse in one Ghetto had a corrupt attendant!

Maybe a lot of ghettos in America are hyped. My auntie lived in South Park - in 1986 feared like Brixton used to be, now edgy and trendy like Brixton is now.

I was still a teenager in 1985 and probably watching too much American tv :oops:
 
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BTW BTW an email from someone mentioning Urban 75 was read out at my table.​
In a good way?

Well partly good (curate's egg-like)
It was read out by a New Zealand Lambeth traffic engineer - which gave it a certain edge

That message might have been this, from me:

"1) Lambeth exhorts us all to care about the environment. But Lambeth has allowed the most immediately impactful aspect, the visual environment of our own neighbourhoods, to become ugly and cluttered. Siginage, posts, railings, boxes and bins proliferate and duplicate, causing visual chaos and physical obstructions. I estimate that the inventory of street furniture could be halved, e.g. by using poles and posts for more than one function, and by reducing redundant signage, thus opening up the visual space. You could ask people at the meeting to take photos (with locations) of candidates for decluttering. You could also pass this request on to Brixtonblog, Effrablog, the Brixton Society and Urban75, so that a comprehensive list of targets can be compiled. If people see that Lambeth can directly improve their own immediate environments, then they might be more sympathetic to the big, abstract and impersonal environmental objectives that they are expected to concern themselves with.

2) A similar point applies to trees.Trees for Cities, in conjunction with the Mayor's Street Tree Programme, has completed some modest tree planting in Lmabeth. But this initiative could be greatly expanded. Trees reduce the heat island effect, improve biodiveristy, and even reduce crime. Again, Lambeth could show that concern for the environment starts with and directly benefits its citizens; rather than the more familiar local government approach to environmental concerns of penalising people for non-compliance with diktats imposed from above."
 
That message might have been this, from me:

"1) Lambeth exhorts us all to care about the environment. But Lambeth has allowed the most immediately impactful aspect, the visual environment of our own neighbourhoods, to become ugly and cluttered. Siginage, posts, railings, boxes and bins proliferate and duplicate, causing visual chaos and physical obstructions. I estimate that the inventory of street furniture could be halved, e.g. by using poles and posts for more than one function, and by reducing redundant signage, thus opening up the visual space. You could ask people at the meeting to take photos (with locations) of candidates for decluttering. You could also pass this request on to Brixtonblog, Effrablog, the Brixton Society and Urban75, so that a comprehensive list of targets can be compiled. If people see that Lambeth can directly improve their own immediate environments, then they might be more sympathetic to the big, abstract and impersonal environmental objectives that they are expected to concern themselves with.

2) A similar point applies to trees.Trees for Cities, in conjunction with the Mayor's Street Tree Programme, has completed some modest tree planting in Lmabeth. But this initiative could be greatly expanded. Trees reduce the heat island effect, improve biodiveristy, and even reduce crime. Again, Lambeth could show that concern for the environment starts with and directly benefits its citizens; rather than the more familiar local government approach to environmental concerns of penalising people for non-compliance with diktats imposed from above."
That's the one - yes!
 
I'm thinking changing my moniker to "Winston Smith". Now got TWO nu Labour followers on Twitter.
Do they know I haver a facsimile edition of 1984 on my bookshelf though!
 
That message might have been this, from me:

"1) Lambeth exhorts us all to care about the environment. But Lambeth has allowed the most immediately impactful aspect, the visual environment of our own neighbourhoods, to become ugly and cluttered. Siginage, posts, railings, boxes and bins proliferate and duplicate, causing visual chaos and physical obstructions. I estimate that the inventory of street furniture could be halved, e.g. by using poles and posts for more than one function, and by reducing redundant signage, thus opening up the visual space. You could ask people at the meeting to take photos (with locations) of candidates for decluttering. You could also pass this request on to Brixtonblog, Effrablog, the Brixton Society and Urban75, so that a comprehensive list of targets can be compiled. If people see that Lambeth can directly improve their own immediate environments, then they might be more sympathetic to the big, abstract and impersonal environmental objectives that they are expected to concern themselves with.

2) A similar point applies to trees.Trees for Cities, in conjunction with the Mayor's Street Tree Programme, has completed some modest tree planting in Lmabeth. But this initiative could be greatly expanded. Trees reduce the heat island effect, improve biodiveristy, and even reduce crime. Again, Lambeth could show that concern for the environment starts with and directly benefits its citizens; rather than the more familiar local government approach to environmental concerns of penalising people for non-compliance with diktats imposed from above."

True. Our road has huge numbers of posts with residents' parking signs, with no thought given to how many were needed or whether lampposts could have doubled up.

Also, Trees for Cities has been in our street - but planted only a handful of trees. Part of the problem is that pavements are so underburdened with cables that sites are hard to locate.
 
Indeed - Jackie (from Scotland) was there before Rosie with Boca (iirc). Rosie bought her shop.

I actually thought it went downhill in quality as a deli when it was taken over. Maybe it got better as a coffee house. You used to be able to buy live African land snail on that shop on the corner in those days.
 
I actually thought it went downhill in quality as a deli when it was taken over. Maybe it got better as a coffee house.
Yes, Jackie ran a deli that did coffee and Rosie runs a cafe that has some deli stuff. It was really sad when Jackie had to go back to Scotland (family stuff, ageing parent).
 
Anyone particularly affronted by HRH visiting the Saltoun Supper Club venue?
I am and thinking of sending him an email with a piece of my mind!
What is it about that man? If he carries on like this I will suggest that if his mother dies (rather than is taken up into the heavens) the Church of England consider a Regency arrangement.
How could you have the head of the state church with such piss poor judgement (in the alternative one whose advisers are taken in by sycophantic 419 merchants who work for JP Morgan and flaunt their wealth in front of us POOR people!)
I can't bring myself to joint the WRP or the SWP - but I can give the bastard a piece of my mind!
I was a Young Liberal at the time of Peter Hain. Peter went native and joined the establishment. I hold true to the Red Guard principles of Direct Action (not Direct Debit action as supported by HRH apparently!)
MORALLY UNACCEPTABLE is the phrase I was searching for.
Mr Dudamel's performance of the Erotica symphony in Sterling (still in broad daylight incidentally) is distracting me.
 
*warning-weather post*

What the hell is going on with the weather?!?
I walked to the shop in a t-shirt an hour or so ago and it was clement.
Now the trees are being blown all over the place and its raining (again).
It looks like monsoon season out there.

*weather post over*
 
HRH Prince Charlatan!
I just gave my therapist at the Maudsley a special tape of holiday listening.
Side 1: RD Laing - Life Before Death (a bizarre musically accompanied rant against Calvinism which culminates in Ronnie thanking God that his father passed into senile dementia - the closest he came to be free! How would he feel if he realised that just as dust turns to dust and we are all food for worrms - how would old Dad feel if he realised that he had become ME? How would the the Queen feel in this case!!!
Side 2: Peter Maxwell Davies -
a) Mavis in Las Vegas (an illiterate hotel receptionist enters P Maxwell Davies hotel booking as "Mavis")
b) EIGHT SONGS FOR A MAD KING - sung by Julius Eastman - a leather clad gay black man with clanking chains!
EDGY HUH!
 
*warning-weather post*

What the hell is going on with the weather?!?
I walked to the shop in a t-shirt an hour or so ago and it was clement.
Now the trees are being blown all over the place and its raining (again).
It looks like monsoon season out there.

*weather post over*

I did inform people the weather was going to change, but would you listen?! :p
 
What the hell is going on with the weather?!?
I walked to the shop in a t-shirt an hour or so ago and it was clement.
Now the trees are being blown all over the place and its raining (again).
It looks like monsoon season out there.
Must be time for an El Niño, surely? I blame that President Kirchner - she hates this country.
 
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