Had a pint of this excellent ultra hoppy golden beer this evening in Peckham Wetherspoons
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Actually it wasn't quite like that - the pump clip used in the Kentish Drovers in Peckham was a copper/gold colour and simply had in large text Twickenham Naked Ladies.
Appreciate this is all very non-pc, but Wikipedia reveals there is actually a sculpture of same name in Twickenham which no doubt inspired the brew.
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I was merely reminiscing about the row in the House of Commons bar about beers with such evocative names.They are on Twickenham riverside The Naked Ladies - Wikipedia
And are only none PC if you think michalangelo’s David is obscene.
I was merely reminiscing about the row in the House of Commons bar about beers with such evocative names.
This might have all been in the mind of the editor of the Telegraph in coalition days of slow news before the world turned upside down
Leg-spreader and Slack Alice: The sexist beer names that will make you cringe
Talking of Heineken, I heard the Brixton Brewery were trying to get the Albert to stock their beers but the landlord refused because of the sky high prices they were demanding. Which seems a little odd because it's made - literally - around the corner.Anyone know what's going on with the Duke of Edinburgh lately?
I was in there for South London Drinks a few weeks ago and no sign of any Real Ale - but the there was surfeit of expensive "Craft" super cold fizzy beer, including Brixton Brewery beers. And Amstel.
The Evening Standard carried an article yesterday saying Heineken were under investigation for forcing their beers on pubs which whilst superficially being free houses were actually affiliated to Heineken in some way.
Going on the Duke of Edin burgh's selection it seemed that they might be one such pub. We know they had a problem back in 2009 when owners Pub n Bars went broke, then in 2013 when the pub's foreclosing bank sold the pub on to Solitaire.
Given that it currently behaves somewhat like a Punch Taverns or similar pub - are they actually on a "hidden tie" to Heineken?
Whatever the case they are hardly going to be welcoming pensioners or the unemployed at their prices!!!
Heineken faces claims of forcing beer on publicans
The Albert is a Greene King pub. No doubt they have their own supply chain and won't pay fancy prices.Talking of Heineken, I heard the Brixton Brewery were trying to get the Albert to stock their beers but the landlord refused because of the sky high prices they were demanding. Which seems a little odd because it's made - literally - around the corner.
Talking of Heineken, I heard the Brixton Brewery were trying to get the Albert to stock their beers but the landlord refused because of the sky high prices they were demanding. Which seems a little odd because it's made - literally - around the corner.
I've honestly never liked a single one of their beers but as you say, they get a lot of mileage out of their heavily advertised Brixton connection.Yeah, Heineken have set the price of Brixton beers at a ridiculous premium price, possibly the highest in their portfolio next to Lagunitas. They obviously thought it was a funky perhaps edgy name to buy. Never thought much off their brews anyway.
I've had some Brixton ales out of fizz taps. Was OK. A bit like Sam Brooks out of fizz taps, but more variety.I've honestly never liked a single one of their beers but as you say, they get a lot of mileage out of their heavily advertised Brixton connection.
I've honestly never liked a single one of their beers but as you say, they get a lot of mileage out of their heavily advertised Brixton connection.
Absolutely. They were quick to associate themselves with as many authentic iconic Brixton references as possible (despite three of the four owners being Canadian), although they pissed me off when they unveiled their Coldharbour Lager after we already had our Coldharbour Courage beer. And, unlike them, we gave all the profits from our beer to local charities.Like it out not that was a canny business move appropriating the name of one of London's best known communities. See also, Camden : they got snapped up by a multinational as well.
Absolutely. They were quick to associate themselves with as many authentic iconic Brixton references as possible (despite three of the four owners being Canadian), although they pissed me off when they unveiled their Coldharbour Lager after we already had our Coldharbour Courage beer. And, unlike them, we gave all the profits from our beer to local charities.
I think it's just a lazy choice for nu-businesses in Brixton looking to score cred points.Funnily the first time anyone representing the Brixton brand was after the Heineken takeover. Some customers actually suggested stocking it but we went with Signature instead as they have supported live music and their brews are better.
I'm not sure why 3 of us being Canadian has any bearing, aren't you Welsh!? And anyway my wife's from London but grew up in Canada. Coldharbour Lager was one of our brainstormed beer names from 2011. Oh and we've raised money for and supported local causes since we opened.Absolutely. They were quick to associate themselves with as many authentic iconic Brixton references as possible (despite three of the four owners being Canadian), although they pissed me off when they unveiled their Coldharbour Lager after we already had our Coldharbour Courage beer. And, unlike them, we gave all the profits from our beer to local charities.
Claiming to have 'brainstormed' an idea is a pretty meaningless boast really, but that's not the point anyway. You knew that the Brixton Buzz 'Coldharbour Courage' had been released long before you released your beer with a confusingly similar name, and we weren't the only people to remark upon it.I'm not sure why 3 of us being Canadian has any bearing, aren't you Welsh!? And anyway my wife's from London but grew up in Canada. Coldharbour Lager was one of our brainstormed beer names from 2011. Oh and we've raised money for and supported local causes since we opened.
I think I've pointed out before London Beer Lab and Clarkshaws also have beers called Coldharbour Pils and Coldharbour Hell Yeah but you don't seem to have any issue with those for some reason?Claiming to have 'brainstormed' an idea is a pretty meaningless boast really, but that's not the point anyway. You knew that the Brixton Buzz 'Coldharbour Courage' had been released long before you released your beer with a confusingly similar name, and we weren't the only people to remark upon it.
Sounds like the recent charity beer we produced which has raised over £6k for charities.We gave away ALL the money from the beer we brewed and didn't pay ourselves a single penny.
The London Beer Lab is a tiny operation compared to your Heineken-backed venture and, of course they helped produce the original Coldharbour Courage. I wish they hadn't used the name too, but there you go. At least they helped us in the past.I think I've pointed out before London Beer Lab and Clarkshaws also have beers called Coldharbour Pils and Coldharbour Hell Yeah but you don't seem to have any issue with those for some reason?
Every little bit helps, but if you're going to try to go down the virtue signalling route, I think you could do a bit better with the numbers. £6k is a truly microscopic percentage of your vast turnover.Sounds like the recent charity beer we produced which has raised over £6k for charities.
I'm not virtue signalling, I'm illustrating your points about us are unbalanced at best and mendacious at worst. This particular beer raised £6k, we constantly support other causes too but don't tend to shout about it.Every little bit helps, but if you're going to try to go down the virtue signalling route, I think you could do a bit better with the numbers. £6k is a truly microscopic percentage of your vast turnover.
What is 'mendacious' about my point that you used a very similar name to our beer two years after we launched, but as a wholly commercial enterprise instead of a charitable one? I know for a fact some people mistook your product for ours and that caused me some concern at the time, seeing as the ethos of the two beers were diametrically opposed.I'm not virtue signalling, I'm illustrating your points about us are unbalanced at best and mendacious at worst. This particular beer raised £6k, we constantly support other causes too but don't tend to shout about it.
Absolutely. They were quick to associate themselves with as many authentic iconic Brixton references as possible (despite three of the four owners being Canadian), although they pissed me off when they unveiled their Coldharbour Lager after we already had our Coldharbour Courage beer. And, unlike them, we gave all the profits from our beer to local charities.
Doesn't matter one single bit, but you don't think it's of interest when a corporate-backed company is trading so heavily on the name, history and heritage of a particular locality?what the hell does it matter where someone emigrated from?
What is 'mendacious' about my point that you used a very similar name to our beer two years after we launched, but as a wholly commercial enterprise instead of a charitable one? I know for a fact some people mistook your product for ours and that caused me some concern at the time, seeing as the ethos of the two beers were diametrically opposed.
Um, yes I've already posted about that earlier in the thread.And you are a Heineken backed venture, are you not?
Did you give ALL the profits from Coldharbour Lager to charity because that's what the post you've linked to clearly refers to.Ok so we released a beer with a similar name that we conceived 2 years before yours came out, as then did London Beer Lab and Clarkshaws which we have absolutely no issue with and you only have issue with ours. I'd say that's mendacious as are your other comments e.g. implying we don't give profits to charity.
Oh come on. This is piss weak stuff. It doesn't matter a jot what was going on in your head at some point in the past. Unless you actually released, promoted and marketed the stuff, it's a meaningless claim.Ok so we released a beer with a similar name that we conceived 2 years before yours came out
Doesn't matter one single bit, but you don't think it's of interest when a corporate-backed company is trading so heavily on the name, history and heritage of a particular locality?
Surely an appetite for aggressive expansion and forming partnerships with massive corporates to facilitate that desire can only be, ultimately, about creating bigger markets and maximising profits, no?I also believe, although may be wrong, that the sale of a stake to Heineken was because they could not cope with the demand and needed new premises within the boundaries of Brixton, rather than taking profit.
Surely an appetite for aggressive expansion and forming partnerships with massive corporates to facilitate that desire can only be, ultimately, about creating bigger markets and maximising profits, no?
It's the capitalist blueprint after all but, happily, not every business or entity feels the need for endless growth.