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butchersapron
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Nothing labourist about spending years obsessed by a debate almost wholly internal to the left in the labour party and the unions form a different world and a very different time? Sure there ain't. Back to the spokesman books - dig deep enough and you may find the future.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
The history of attempts from within the labour movement to think beyond Labourist assumptions (not just in Labour but from the May Day Manifesto, to CP, IWC, Socialist Register, Socialist Movement, etc etc.) is very rich and rewarding.
Depressing that the ultra-left are totally complicit with the Labour right in insisting that any involvement in, or positive consideration the possibilities of, Labour has to be on "Labourist" terms.
Depressing that the ultra-left are totally complicit with the Labour right in insisting that any involvement in, or positive consideration the possibilities of, Labour has to be on "Labourist" terms.
butchersapron
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Astonishing - we're back on the ground of if you don't hold hands with me and my pluralist lib-dem chums you're holding hands with the BNP.
Doubly astonishing - it's people who oppose your party who are in reality to blame for the things that that party that you are a member of and urge people to vote for and become involved in actually do.
Doubly astonishing - it's people who oppose your party who are in reality to blame for the things that that party that you are a member of and urge people to vote for and become involved in actually do.
blah blah blah...butchersapron
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Note the continued evasion of responsibility - whilst pinning the things your party does on others. This is your grand strategy is it? Your questions that must be answered?
butchersapron
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It continues.
butchersapron
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It's everyone else's fault that i'm losing my unwinnable fight. Also, vote labour!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
whereas you try to deny that it has to be labourist while remaining a member of the labour party?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Until the people listen to you. You'll all get yours.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you're in a deep rut which has been carved out over the past fucking hundred years.
articul8
Dishonest sociopath
The dominance of the labour party over the wider labour movement and oppositional politics isn't imagined though. It's real. And standing in isolation bemoaning it isn't going to change that.
butchersapron
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Yeah, join in everyone!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you're still in a deep rut which has been carved out for decades. and it's getting increasingly dull. as a member of the labour party you're part of the problem.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The only way to change labours dominance is to join labour and get other people to vote and join labour according to articul8.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
sounds a bit like the auld militant to me. only without the militancy.
butchersapron
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I an see his logic in that he is so repellent and two-faced and people like him might put people off, but it's not currently working.
butchersapron
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Oh no, it's a long established series. I identified the way you do it on here earlier - rhetorical radicalism stapled to the hoariest old labour/euro-communust farts.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
And smilies.
barney_pig
Po-cha-na-quar-hip
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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