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:D Indeed. I'm still not sure that gold-toothed DJ feller was the full ticket.


Help me out, is this 'street dancing'/social/community amateur thing a recent phem o . . . phonem . . . phen . . . development?
 
Flawless were soooo good that I looked them up.

Waddya know, turns out that they aren't just "a group of lads who get together to dance" as was strongly implied by the show. They are, in fact, hip hop world champions, with a string of prestiguous awards to their names. They've danced with just about every big name out there. They are, in short, top class professionals. And it also seems very likely that someone like Cowell would be very well aware of them indeed.

Not that this changes anything, of course. They were brilliantly entertaining and would be a top choice to be in any live performance. But it is interesting how the TV makers chose to present them on the show, don't you think?
 
Is it really right that an outfit like that should be allowed to take part in an amateur show? :confused:
Ah, but who says that it is an amateur show?

This is the illusion of telly. They strongly imply something, but they never actually show you where it is written.
 
Flawless's myspace page

More info

I quote:

UK World Dance Champions Flawless are currently one of the biggest dance troupes in the UK, peforming in workshops in schools, colleges and universities.
They also perform at all events such as Festivals, Gala dinners, Award Shows, corporate, concerts and TV.

Flawless are an extremely dedicated and breathtaking team, they have amazing dance abilities that will take your breath away when they bring you dance in some of the most stunning performances you've ever seen. Flawless began there journey as a dance group in Feb 2005 and since then have gone from being the UK’s top Street Dance Champions, to International in just one year and most recently crowned World Hip Hop Dance Champions in 2006 by the IDO in Bremen (Germany) coming out 1st place and also the first group to get full marks from all the World Judges in Hip Hop Dance History.

Taught By one of the most aspiring young creative choreographers in the UK, Marlon "Swoosh" Wallen, who has received awards for Flawless (Best street dance group 2005) (Best Choreographed Group 2006) with many more titles to mention.

Flawless continue to appear and work in Music videos for MTV and on Big Screen, some of the stars Flawless have worked with are Madonna, Beyonce, Amerie, Victoria Beckham and many more to mention. Marlon Wallen is the main nucleus of the group, bringing professional experience as well as a new kind of choreography that's exciting and inspirational, which has also made Hip Hop Dance more appealing to the mass audience.

Managed by Amelia Benoit a former dancer and fashion director, Flawless have displayed their selves to be leaders within World street dance and the mainstream scene and are on their way up to becoming gone the most successful talented Dance Group ever to come out of the UK.
 
Flawless were soooo good that I looked them up.

Waddya know, turns out that they aren't just "a group of lads who get together to dance" as was strongly implied by the show. They are, in fact, hip hop world champions, with a string of prestiguous awards to their names. They've danced with just about every big name out there. They are, in short, top class professionals. And it also seems very likely that someone like Cowell would be very well aware of them indeed.

Not that this changes anything, of course. They were brilliantly entertaining and would be a top choice to be in any live performance. But it is interesting how the TV makers chose to present them on the show, don't you think?


I was telling someone yesterday how I really liked that guy that played the saxophone, but he implied that he wasn't all he seemed to be.

Can't seem to find anything though. Is he a professional or something? :confused:
 
missfran said:
That's disappointing, I really liked them. But not if they're pretending not to be professionals.
They were still by far and away the best thing on the show, including that mediocre middle-aged singer. You should still enjoy their performance. But just remind yourself never to forget for a moment that the whole thing is trying to manipulate you.
 
They were still by far and away the best thing on the show, including that mediocre middle-aged singer. You should still enjoy their performance. But just remind yourself never to forget for a moment that the whole thing is trying to manipulate you.

I don't mind being manipulated by the judges/show format, and will still enjoy their dancing, but am disappointed that the group is pretending to be amateurs when they're not. Call me Miss Naive. :(
 
I don't mind being manipulated by the judges/show format, and will still enjoy their dancing, but am disappointed that the group is pretending to be amateurs when they're not. Call me Miss Naive. :(
No, I agree. It's a painful reminder of just how manipulative they really are.

I only originally looked them up because I was so impressed and wanted to see if there were any other videos of them out there. I was surprised myself when it turned out that they were not just professionals but actually world champions!

Anyway, I just tried googling Diversity and it does seem that they are as they appear -- a group of amateurs. This would make sense to me, in that they were nowhere near as polished as Flawless. They had some superb originality in their performance though. It's rare that a dance act can actually make you laugh with joy at the sheer ideas they come up with.
 
No, I agree. It's a painful reminder of just how manipulative they really are.

I only originally looked them up because I was so impressed and wanted to see if there were any other videos of them out there. I was surprised myself when it turned out that they were not just professionals but actually world champions!

Anyway, I just tried googling Diversity and it does seem that they are as they appear -- a group of amateurs. This would make sense to me, in that they were nowhere near as polished as Flawless. They had some superb originality in their performance though. It's rare that a dance act can actually make you laugh with joy at the sheer ideas they come up with.



Can you look up Julian Smith, the saxophonist please?
 
:D Indeed. I'm still not sure that gold-toothed DJ feller was the full ticket.


Help me out, is this 'street dancing'/social/community amateur thing a recent phem o . . . phonem . . . phen . . . development?

Cowell is clueless about modern trends isn't he? :D

So many films out at the moment about US Stepping.
Step Up, Stomp the Yard etc. We're even upto sequals with Step Up 2 - Step up to the streets

No Simon it isn't a new phenomena. Its just new'sh to Britain.

Saying all that...

Diversity were far better than I expected them to be and the chorography was very good. Full of british humour rather than the macho posturing the US go for.
 
The chariots of fire bit was ace :) I like the fact that there are sets of brothers too, it's good to see older brothers setting a good example to the younger ones :)

Right, Diversity gets my vote over Flawless then.
 
Cowell is clueless about modern trends isn't he? :D

So many films out at the moment about US Stepping.
Step Up, Stomp the Yard etc. We're even upto sequals with Step Up 2 - Step up to the streets

No Simon it isn't a new phenomena. Its just new'sh to Britain.

Saying all that...

Diversity were far better than I expected them to be and the chorography was very good. Full of british humour rather than the macho posturing the US go for.
Don't kid yourself for one moment that Cowell thinks that any of it is new. It wouldn't surprise me if he had even booked Flawless to perform for one of his own acts in the past. Who knows, maybe he was even the one that suggested to them that they enter BGT?

He's playing up an act for the storyboarding of the show. Nothing more or less than that.
 
Although I was happy enough to support the Bar Wizards knowing that they were at very least semi-professionals. They were ace.
 
Tonight didn't have much to offer from what I saw. The very frightened Welsh singer with the Les Mis song made a respectable job of it, and I totally understand his stage-fright, but he wasn't "special" just decently competent. It's a shame he chose a hit from the same musical as Susan Doyle (?) cos he isn't quite as "sad" as her and his voice didn't quite contrast with his personality so much.
 
Tonight didn't have much to offer from what I saw. The very frightened Welsh singer with the Les Mis song made a respectable job of it, and I totally understand his stage-fright, but he wasn't "special" just decently competent. It's a shame he chose a hit from the same musical as Susan Doyle (?) cos he isn't quite as "sad" as her and his voice didn't quite contrast with his personality so much.

I thought he was ace but he is an old school mate so I would say that :D
 
And in the final 40 we have DJ Talent and the Floral high Notes, but not the young drummer - time for the judges to be voted out I reckon.
 
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