Bristol City Council elections 2014

[JTG]

Seriously though - great result in Windmill Hill but failing to take Kingsweston, Whitchurch Park, Knowle and Hengrove is rubbish. Even Bedminster is looking vulnerable to a Green push now.
As mentioned, I sort of know Alice Bouquet and she's alright but putting her up for Whitchurch is mad.
And losing Avonmouth even with Spud muddying the waters

 

[Geri]

Nigel Currie (Conservative candidate in Horfield) was in the Labour Party when I was. Fucking nob.

Can't believe Bishopston and Redland are now Green. Thank fuck I moved to East Bristol.

 

[DaveCinzano]

And losing Avonmouth even with Spud muddying the waters

I like that Shouty Steve Norman came within a whisker of 4th place there - just 14 votes behind Justin Quinnell, who's been (unsuccessfully) standing for the Greens at least since the more eco-conscious Pharaohs first touted Residents' Pyramid Zones.

Plus he spanked the Lib Dems into 6th place. And TUSC - sixteen votes, really?

 

[Gerry1time]

I wonder if the slightly utopian middle class 'Independents for Bristol' thing will keep going after this. The ones from it I've met seemed slightly confused by their lack of ability to win much last time round, this time must be confusing them even more.

 

[JTG]

Just realised I know Martin Fodor, Redland's new Green, from Oxfam festival stewarding

 

[JTG]

Thoughts on all that:
The Tories just can't move out of the suburbs but they're holding what they have pretty comfortably
Mixed picture in the Lib Dem/Labour battleground wards in the estates and w/c suburbs - Labour taking some of them back but in others the Libs are proving more adhesive than we thought they may be.
Where they stood, UKIP were ineffective in the Tory suburbs but made more impact in Labour target wards, most emphatically in Hengrove. Second places for UKIP in Southmead and both Brislington wards should concern Labour
The Greens have established a strong base in the Gloucester Road area - landslides in both Bishopston seats, Ashley is theirs and now one of the Redland seats also. South of the river they could be building for something similar with a growing Bedminster vote and a strong third place in Windmill Hill - Labour may owe their recapture of Windmill Hill to Lib Dem votes collapsing into the Greens.

The social dividing lines in the city are even clearer now imho. M/C Gloucester Road bohemian types completely distinct from the w/c estates and inner cities with completely different voting patterns and the suburbs something else again.

Overall it's as you were - George is in charge

 

[BlackArab]

The Greens are losing popularity in Ashley and will struggle to retain their seats next time round. There is a backlash brewing over the residents parking zone proposals and the bohemian types that voted them in are upset that the Greens are not sympathetic to car owners, surprise surprise!

 

[JTG]

The Greens are losing popularity in Ashley and will struggle to retain their seats next time round. There is a backlash brewing over the residents parking zone proposals and the bohemian types that voted them in are upset that the Greens are not sympathetic to car owners, surprise surprise!

I had wondered but left the ward two years ago.
Back to Labour then?

 

[BlackArab]

tbf I should mention Gus Hoyt's amazing ability to alienate people on Twitter/Facebook and being a trustfunder who has the ability to buy an ex-council house in Montpelier for £186k cash and his complaint of his low £32k pa wage are not endearing him to peeps either atm

http://thebristolian.net/tag/gus-hoyt/

 

[BlackArab]

I had wondered but left the ward two years ago.
Back to Labour then?

Depends on the candidate but Jon Rogers still has some popularity around here too.

 

[BlackArab]

To be even fairer Gus is hardly the first trustie in Montpelier playing at being poor but right-on.

 

[JTG]

Depends on the candidate but Jon Rogers still has some popularity around here too.

Ah yeah, forgot about him. He was still campaigning on stuff last I saw?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Ah yeah, forgot about him. He was still campaigning on stuff last I saw?

There's long been an amusing Facebook Group war between Hoyt & Telford (who run Ashley Greenvine), and Rogers (who admins Ashley Ward Bristol Information), with the former frequently accused of censorship, shouting down critics, arbitrarily deleting ‘off topic’ comments etc, and the latter using his page as a sort of ‘shadow councillor’ base of operations, sniping at Tweedles Dum & Dee.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/514518268580320/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ashleyward/

 

[DaveCinzano]

To be even fairer Gus is hardly the first trustie in Montpelier playing at being poor but right-on.

Few have been so spectacularly outed though!

 

[JTG]

There's long been an amusing Facebook Group war between Hoyt & Telford (who run Ashley Greenvine), and Rogers (who admins Ashley Ward Bristol Information), with the former frequently accused of censorship, shouting down critics, arbitrarily deleting ‘off topic’ comments etc, and the latter using his page as a sort of ‘shadow councillor’ base of operations, sniping at Tweedles Dum & Dee.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/514518268580320/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ashleyward/

Yes, I pop in for a laugh every once in a while. Especially enjoy it when other Lib Dems from across town drop by for a ding dong with Gus and Rob

 

[DaveCinzano]

The Greens are losing popularity in Ashley and will struggle to retain their seats next time round. There is a backlash brewing over the residents parking zone proposals and the bohemian types that voted them in are upset that the Greens are not sympathetic to car owners, surprise surprise!

Also Ashley has always been one of the most mixed - in economic and social as well as ethnic terms - wards in Bristol. Sustainability Indicator data consistently demonstrates a potent mix of unemployed, self-employed and employed, with a lot of working class people with vans or other vehicles they need for, well, working (again, that's statistically logged). And the proliferation of Glastonbury parking passes (etc) in windscreens attest to quite how many of the GP's natural constituency have vehicles which need to be permitted in the RPZ, even if they are mostly only used in the Summer.

Political miscalculation would be putting it politely!

 

[BlackArab]

There's long been an amusing Facebook Group war between Hoyt & Telford (who run Ashley Greenvine), and Rogers (who admins Ashley Ward Bristol Information), with the former frequently accused of censorship, shouting down critics, arbitrarily deleting ‘off topic’ comments etc, and the latter using his page as a sort of ‘shadow councillor’ base of operations, sniping at Tweedles Dum & Dee.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/514518268580320/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ashleyward/

It's like a soap opera isn't it and does neither side any favours. Christian Martin was recently complaining there about his problems with rubbish on his street when we are supposed to be 'Green Capital' conveniently forgetting that the LD's had signed the original waste contracts.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Yes, I pop in for a laugh every once in a while. Especially enjoy it when other Lib Dems from across town drop by for a ding dong with Gus and Rob

Christian Martin is the new Jon Rogers!

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's like a soap opera isn't it and does neither side any favours. Christian Martin was recently complaining there about his problems with rubbish on his street when we are supposed to be 'Green Capital' conveniently forgetting that the LD's had signed the original waste contracts.

Oh look, is this a picture of prominent Lib Dem Gary Hopkins promoting said same?

 

[JTG]

Also Ashley has always been one of the most mixed - in economic and social as well as ethnic terms - wards in Bristol. Sustainability Indicator data consistently demonstrates a potent mix of unemployed, self-employed and employed, with a lot of working class people with vans or other vehicles they need for, well, working (again, that's statistically logged). And the proliferation of Glastonbury parking passes (etc) in windscreens attest to quite how many of the GP's natural constituency have vehicles which need to be permitted in the RPZ, even if they are mostly only used in the Summer.

Political miscalculation would be putting it politely!

Otoh, I was under the impression it had very low rates of car ownership - though maybe that doesn't conflict with the above or is for St Pauls, not Ashley
Or something

 

[JTG]

Christian Martin is the new Jon Rogers!

That's the fella! Clifton East yeah?

 

[BlackArab]

Also Ashley has always been one of the most mixed - in economic and social as well as ethnic terms - wards in Bristol. Sustainability Indicator data consistently demonstrates a potent mix of unemployed, self-employed and employed, with a lot of working class people with vans or other vehicles they need for, well, working (again, that's statistically logged). And the proliferation of Glastonbury parking passes (etc) in windscreens attest to quite how many of the GP's natural constituency have vehicles which need to be permitted in the RPZ, even if they are mostly only used in the Summer.

Political miscalculation would be putting it politely!

Yes those summer vehicles which quite often old diesel vans which leave you choking on fumes when they pull away. re the rpz, Ashley also suffers from a big problem with being used as a free car park for commuting suburbanites especially since Cabot Circus was opened and Kingsdown's rpz came into effect. The whole process of trying to introduce it has been badly handled but there's no denying there is a problem and certainly many especially in St Pauls calling for it.

 

[BlackArab]

Oh look, is this a picture of prominent Lib Dem Gary Hopkins promoting said same?

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'I am the eggman, I am the eggman...'

 

[DaveCinzano]

Otoh, I was under the impression it had very low rates of car ownership - though maybe that doesn't conflict with the above or is for St Pauls, not Ashley
Or something

Typically the stats would show generally low to average private vehicle ownership, but higher than average numbers of work vehicles. The recent demographic changes with many more single young people moving into the area (with corresponding drop in proportion of families) would, I suspect, skew the results compared with the trend of the 80s, 90s & 00s. Certainly the number of car parking spaces required by new apartment blocks to secure their planning consent (and still there aren't enough to meet demand) could suggest there's rising numbers of private vehicles per capita in the area, perhaps?

 

[DaveCinzano]

That's the fella! Clifton East yeah?

The Right Honourable Member for San Fernando Valley

 

[JTG]

Typically the stats would show generally low to average private vehicle ownership, but higher than average numbers of work vehicles. The recent demographic changes with many more single young people moving into the area (with corresponding drop in proportion of families) would, I suspect, skew the results compared with the trend of the 80s, 90s & 00s. Certainly the number of car parking spaces required by new apartment blocks to secure their planning consent (and still there aren't enough to meet demand) could suggest there's rising numbers of private vehicles per capita in the area, perhaps?

Yeah, that makes sense