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Bristol City Council elections 2013

Seems i may be wrong on this - i'm not convinced that i am yet though. Will come back on this later. I'm sure it's something like undeclared parties rather than undeclared party membership.
 
What you're saying should make sense. Can of worms otherwise
 
JTG said:
Any idea if there's a definition of what a party is? Assuming that from what you say, there's something explicit regarding groups who aren't registered with the Electoral Commission or whatever
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But they are registered with the EC - its 'leader' & treasurer is Stephen Perry (who coincidentally is also treasurer of George's other 'but it's not a political party' party, Bristol 1st). IfB's reference number is PP2038. Bristol 1st's is PP1957.

Use the EC search here:

https://pefonline.electoralcommission.org.uk/Search/EntitySearch.aspx
 
Oh, and IfB was set up by posh ex-BBC journo Stephen Perry, organiser of 'Bristol Speakers Corner', and resident of Southernhay Avenue (where he is a neighbour of Arnolfini finance director Brenda McLennan, IfB candidate for Clifton), with help from Chris Sunderland of Bristol Pound, and - of course - George Ferguson.

Bristol Pound recently announced they now had £100,000 deposited. Didn't mention that a significant chunk of that was George's mayoral salary... Wonder why?
 
I have just googled Bristol Speakers Corner and found Big Jeff described as a 'legendary performance poet'
 
Had first (and only) Labour leaflet through this afternoon - leaving it rather late... Also suggesting eleventh hour panicking is the inclusion of detailed diagram showing where to vote on the ballot, a mobile number to ring if you want to vote for Shah but don't know where the nearest polling station is, or if you're too infirm to get there on your own, and 4 of the vaguest pledges ever (all of which Kiely and/or the Lib Dems have also committed to).

Kiely's latest missive - third in a week - focuses on how Shah is 'the invisible man', and how it's a two-horse race between Labour and Lib Dems (yet his own graphic shows that the gap between the Greens and Labour is smaller than that between Labour and Lib Dems, so go figure). Bit of mud-slinging on the Whitehall School/Chocolate Factory/Redfield primary places front.

Nice photo vox-pop - endorsements from Dayley Lawrence of Frenchay Unison, local resident Saleh, and Abdul Malik, described as a "friend and resident". So definitely not the same Abdul Malik who used to be a Lib Dem councillor for Easton, 2005-9?
 
Easton sounds more interesting than I thought then... is that the same Abdul Malik of Pak Butchers who is standing for the Lib Dems in Lawrence Hill by the way? ;)

Had Chris Windows' Tory leaflet through the door this afternoon. Criticises Labour for not working with the mayor and emphasises that the election won't change the way the city or country is run so it's best to 'send a message' to His Mayorness. Takes the usual credit for all the local issues that the other parties also agree on. If anything it's reminded me how offensive I find the Tories and may persuade me to pootle off and vote Labour tomorrow.

Who knows. Exciting stuff in Henbury. I'm a swing voter or something
 
JTG said:
... is that the same Abdul Malik of Pak Butchers who is standing for the Lib Dems in Lawrence Hill by the way? ;)
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Lawrence Hill is sounding more and more like a local election clusterfuck - my prediction:

  1. Lib Dem
  2. Labour
  3. Green
  4. Conservative
  5. UKIP
  6. IfB
  7. TUSC
(Based on local gossip about Jama not putting in the legwork)
 
DaveCinzano said:
Lawrence Hill is sounding more and more like a local election clusterfuck - my prediction:

  1. Lib Dem
  2. Labour
  3. Green
  4. Conservative
  5. UKIP
  6. IfB
  7. TUSC
(Based on local gossip about Jama not putting in the legwork)
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Interesting. Hadn't realised Hugill wasn't standing again tbh. Only a majority of 9 over the Lib Dems last time so I'm guessing it's a case of national polls v local campaigning in terms of who you think will win. Malik's obviously experienced so I'd imagine he'll put a decent show on and that means Jama's got to put some work in. Rest of the prediction seems reasonable.

Facebook providing many Green/Lib Dem lols. Seems every time I look at a different local group there's Rogers, Hoyt, Telford and Christian Martin (LD Clifton East) having 'discussions' of varying heatedness. Fascinating stuff. Except usually it isn't.
 
At 9pm got a 2nd IfB leaflet - again full of airy-fairy generalities, 'arts & crafts for toddlers' type stuff, rather than specific issues.

So that's:

3 x Lib Dem
2 x IfB
1 x Green
1 x Labour
0 x Tories (funnily enough)
 
"Vote for us, we're nice and dead independent. And sensible and middle class"
 
Lib Dems out knocking up in force in Ashley right now. The ink still smells fresh on the leaflet they just put through the door. Still reckon it'll be very close though.

To my mind, the biggest story of the election is going to be the woefully low turnout though. Why bother voter for councillors when we have a Mayor?
 
Greens on Twitter are hopeful for Ashley, Bishopston and Easton.

I am still undecided about what to do here in Henbury. May vote Labour, may not vote at all. I detest Labour

When are they counting? Overnight or tomorrow?
 
I think the Greens are certainly going to give the Lib Dems a very good run in those wards, though I'd suspect Bishopston is more likely than the others to go Green.

The count will be overnight I think. I know someone who was asked to work a night shift tonight on elections, which I suspect means they would have been counting them. The live results webcast starts at 9:45am tomorrow too.
 
I think Easton's the outsider of the three. Was sceptical about Bishopston but hadn't realised that Bev Knott was retiring which put a different spin on it. Ashley is hard to call - big Green majority two years ago (think Hoyt got the highest single vote of anyone in 2011) v the John Rogers factor
 
The thing that happened in Ashley last time was that all three parties' vote shares went up a lot. I heard something along the lines that Labour, Lib Dem and Green all got more votes than the winning Lib Dem total in the previous election. So I guess today is Ashley is all about turnout, hence the Lib Dems knocking up round here.

Bev Knott retiring I'm ambivalent about. He should have retired years ago, and I can't imagine he has the same personal vote factor as Jon Rogers. That said, I'd still be inclined to call Bishopston for the Greens.
 
Gerry1time said:
The thing that happened in Ashley last time was that all three parties' vote shares went up a lot. I heard something along the lines that Labour, Lib Dem and Green all got more votes than the winning Lib Dem total in the previous election. So I guess today is Ashley is all about turnout, hence the Lib Dems knocking up round here.

Bev Knott retiring I'm ambivalent about. He should have retired years ago, and I can't imagine he has the same personal vote factor as Jon Rogers. That said, I'd still be inclined to call Bishopston for the Greens.
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That's interesting. I'd imagine Ashley can be fairly volatile in terms of population turnover etc as well so you can never quite be sure what may happen.

I have a personal dislike for Bev Knott and the Bishopston Lib Dems due to their anti-Rovers stance. Though the Greens are hardly better on that front

big eejit said:
I think JR will hold Ashley. Very active local councillor. And the green bloke is a bit of a tit.
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Decent summary :D

Have decided not to vote. Can't stomach a Labour vote, even to kick a Tory out. No point voting Green here even if I wanted to and the Birthday Party are conspiraloon twats
 
Just went and voted, and judging by the fact that hardly any names on the voter lists were crossed out, either everyone's voting after work, or turnout will be poor.

I'm not a massive Bev Knott fan either, but more due to his inability to say the simplest thing in less than a dissertation's worth of words
 
Gerry1time said:
Just went and voted, and judging by the fact that hardly any names on the voter lists were crossed out, either everyone's voting after work, or turnout will be poor.

I'm not a massive Bev Knott fan either, but more due to his inability to say the simplest thing in less than a dissertation's worth of words
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Are you in St Andrews somewhere? Just going by your combined Ashley/Bishopston knowledge :D
 
I voted in my Everton kit after playing footy at lunchtime. I think I can safely say I was the sweatiest voter in today's elections.
 
JTG said:
Are you in St Andrews somewhere? Just going by your combined Ashley/Bishopston knowledge :D
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Not that posh! I've just been around council people and the associated 'politics' they deal with for many years now. :D

Just returned home to a small pile of Lib Dem 'one hour left to vote' leaflets, which implies a) they were knocking up to the very last minute and b) someone was so knackered from knocking up all day that they no longer cared how many leaflets they were putting through the door.

Will be interested to see the result tomorrow!
 
Jon Rogers will pick up more votes in St Pauls than the Greens and his home turf St Andrews. The Werbs will go for Green, probably Montpelier too unless Chris Chalkley tells them different. Hard to call but I'd guess Jon would edge it.
 
BlackArab said:
Jon Rogers will pick up more votes in St Pauls than the Greens and his home turf St Andrews. The Werbs will go for Green, probably Montpelier too unless Chris Chalkley tells them different. Hard to call but I'd guess Jon would edge it.
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Sounds about right in terms of neighbourhood splits. Do you reckon what's left of the Labour vote in Ashley is concentrated in St Pauls as well? Can remember when it regularly returned two Labour councillors...
 
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