Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[revol68]

A grown up who doesnt wet himself at the excitement of 'ooh drugs and law-breaking! How wadical'

The drugs and law breaking aren't what make Breaking Bad stand out, it's it's exploration of the hidden abode of production and class struggle, you superficial bourgeois cretin.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

A grown up who doesnt wet himself at the excitement of 'ooh drugs and law-breaking! How wadical'

but they do apply their misandry to others and take what's said about fictional characters or assume that disliking their actions is in some way a wider statement on their attitudes to women apparently ...

you are the very last person to be able to lecture anyone on maturity...

 

[belboid]

oh stop trying to intellectualise bullshit revol. The hidden abode stuff is interesting, but its not even secondary.

 

[revol68]

oh stop trying to intellectualise bullshit revol. The hidden abode stuff is interesting, but its not even secondary.

It's a recurring theme, as is the class struggle.

there's a leftie on the writing team for sure, see the zoom in on the Marxist Leninist books on Gales bookshelf.

It's not primary or secondary, it saturates everything, remember why Walt took to cooking in the first place, medical bills.

Also the constant reversal of perspective, the lab equipment and objects are given subjectivity, they gaze at Walt and Jess.

 

[belboid]

Yes. And?

 

[Superdupastupor]

^^

The series wouldn't have happened had Walt NHS I always thought

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

oh stop trying to intellectualise bullshit revol. The hidden abode stuff is interesting, but its not even secondary.

you vill vatch zee tv az I tell you or you vill not vatch at ALL!!!!!!

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Also if you're male and think about the characters at all you need to report to re-education camp immediately to be told having opinions on women taking actions is wrong, you backward Neanderthal...

anything else you'd like to decree while your at it oh glorious handy????

 

[revol68]

that's what makes it interesting, the development of the plot ie Walt's breaking bad reveals more and more of this realm, Skyler on the otherhand is a conservative force, wishing to maintain the status quo, that's why she annoys people and why despite Walt being by this stage a massive cunt we still cheer him on.

 

[revol68]

^^

The series wouldn't have happened had Walt NHS I always thought

Yeah the US gets Breaking Bad and we get Casualty and Holby City, swings and round abouts, eh?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

It's a recurring theme, as is the class struggle.

there's a leftie on the writing team for sure, see the zoom in on the Marxist Leninist books on Gales bookshelf.

It's not primary or secondary, it saturates everything, remember why Walt took to cooking in the first place, medical bills.

Also the constant reversal of perspective, the lab equipment and objects are given subjectivity, they gaze at Walt and Jess.

no no no no no

you can't use the stated and clear plot out lines and themes the writer has claimed for himself as the creator and exposed to us the viewer via the medium of his art work and indeed interviews on it and use this as a the basis for the story arc... that will never do. Beliod has decided what the shows about now you and me and all other cretins better just accept that... otherwise belbiod will write to Vince in green ink...

 

[belboid]

that's what makes it interesting, the development of the plot ie Walt's breaking bad reveals more and more of this realm, Skyler on the otherhand is a conservative force, wishing to maintain the status quo, that's why she annoys people and why despite Walt being by this stage a massive cunt we still cheer him on.

You might, I dont, nor do most of the other viewers that I know. Probably down to an age thing.

Skyler is conservative, for sure, but she isnt just wanting to maintain the status quo, I dont think. She just doesn't want Walt to destroy the family. Which isn't exactly unreasonable of her.

 

[twistedAM]

no no no no no

you can't use the stated and clear plot out lines and themes the writer has claimed for himself as the creator and exposed to us the viewer via the medium of his art work and indeed interviews on it and use this as a the basis for the story arc... that will never do. Beliod has decided what the shows about now you and me and all other cretins better just accept that... otherwise belbiod will write to Vince in green ink...

It's about a strong woman who after years of online trading sets her sights on a chain of car washes and a future with a dynamic local business leader, but her husband acts the cunt and spoils her dreams.

 

[revol68]

You might, I dont, nor do most of the other viewers that I know. Probably down to an age thing.

Skyler is conservative, for sure, but she isnt just wanting to maintain the status quo, I dont think. She just doesn't want Walt to destroy the family. Which isn't exactly unreasonable of her.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.
The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.
The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

She is reactionary filth, clinging to her pathetic parochial horizon, I hope Mike shots her.

 

[belboid]

Also the constant reversal of perspective, the lab equipment and objects are given subjectivity, they gaze at Walt and Jess.

just noticed that line. Which is an interesting point! Are you thinking of any bit in particular?

 

[revol68]

It's about a strong woman who after years of online trading sets her sights on a chain of car washes and a future with a dynamic local business leader, but her husband acts the cunt and spoils her dreams.

Brilliant.

Seriously the more I think of Skylar the more I realise she is a character mask for reactionary pseudo sentimental shit, stuck in the idoicy of the parochial.

 

[belboid]

She is reactionary filth, clinging to her pathetic parochial horizon, I hope Mike shots her.

fucks sake. And Walt is a bold taboo busting badass.

(hint: no he isnt)

 

[revol68]

fucks sake. And Walt is a bold taboo busting badass.

(hint: no he isnt)

But he is the truth, even in his lies, nay precisely in his lies.

Skylar is a fraud, a simulcra of a person. Book keeping, ebay sales and a car wash are the dreams of the dead.

Walt is our Faustian anti hero.

 

[belboid]

That's a weird dialectic you have going on there young man

 

[Lily_stick]

This thread is ridiculous. However, after reading a couple of pages I have been sucked in a bit, and find myself cheering on revol68 - I have no idea why his words are inspiring such bile - and thinking belboid is a bit of a twonk.

I agree that none of the characters in BB are supposed to be likeable, but if we really zone in and pick apart skylar's place in the mechanics of the show, I think revol is bang on. I am all for feminism, but I think sometimes people (particularly certain ultra-sensitive pseudo-intellectual middle class Londoners) are too quick to point the finger and label someone as a misogynist.

I wonder how much meaningless bile I will have thrown at me for posting this, and whether I will succeed in resisting the temptation to reply to those who have thrown it.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

This thread is ridiculous. However, after reading a couple of pages I have been sucked in a bit, and find myself cheering on revol68 - I have no idea why his words are inspiring such bile - and thinking belboid is a bit of a twonk.

I agree that none of the characters in BB are supposed to be likeable, but if we really zone in and pick apart skylar's place in the mechanics of the show, I think revol is bang on. I am all for feminism, but I think sometimes people (particularly certain ultra-sensitive pseudo-intellectual middle class Londoners) are too quick to point the finger and label someone as a misogynist.

I wonder how much meaningless bile I will have thrown at me for posting this, and whether I will succeed in resisting the temptation to reply to those who have thrown it.

alot beliod see's evil wimmin h8rs every where you bad person with potentially the wrong genitals...

 

[belboid]

This thread is ridiculous. However, after reading a couple of pages I have been sucked in a bit, and find myself cheering on revol68 - I have no idea why his words are inspiring such bile - and thinking belboid is a bit of a twonk.

I agree that none of the characters in BB are supposed to be likeable, but if we really zone in and pick apart skylar's place in the mechanics of the show, I think revol is bang on. I am all for feminism, but I think sometimes people (particularly certain ultra-sensitive pseudo-intellectual middle class Londoners) are too quick to point the finger and label someone as a misogynist.

I wonder how much meaningless bile I will have thrown at me for posting this, and whether I will succeed in resisting the temptation to reply to those who have thrown it.

None - well, except for implying I'm middle class and a Londoner.

Your opinion re Skyler is all fine and dandy. As said a couple of times before, it's not about the opinion per se, but about how it's expressed. Madamv gave a fine analysis is Skylers character which wasn't a million miles from revols. But she managed to do it without resorting to the usual sexual stereotypes.

 

[revol68]

None - well, except for implying I'm middle class and a Londoner.

Your opinion re Skyler is all fine and dandy. As said a couple of times before, it's not about the opinion per se, but about how it's expressed. Madamv gave a fine analysis is Skylers character which wasn't a million miles from revols. But she managed to do it without resorting to the usual sexual stereotypes.

what sexual stereotypes did I use?

pointing out the botox?

 

[Lily_stick]

None - well, except for implying I'm middle class and a Londoner.

Your opinion re Skyler is all fine and dandy. As said a couple of times before, it's not about the opinion per se, but about how it's expressed. Madamv gave a fine analysis is Skylers character which wasn't a million miles from revols. But she managed to do it without resorting to the usual sexual stereotypes.

Petty tosh.

 

[belboid]

what sexual stereotypes did I use?

pointing out the botox?

Botox, nag, couple of other bits. Seemed a rather strong opinion about someone who is merely dull.

 

[belboid]

Petty tosh.

Shrugs. That's your problem.

 

[revol68]

Botox, nag, couple of other bits. Seemed a rather strong opinion about someone who is merely dull.

She does come across as a nag and there is clearly botox going on. She might well be justified in her nagging but it's still nagging , take it up with the writers.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and not symbolic of the violence of the male phallus.

 

[Lily_stick]

She does come across as a nag and there is clearly botox going on. She might well be justified in her nagging but it's still nagging , take it up with the writers.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and not symbolic of the violence of the male phallus.

Hear, hear!

 

[Orang Utan]

I really can't see how anyone would consider her a nag, unless they considered Walt some kind of hero.


I've never heard men called nags, incidentally.

 

[belboid]

She does come across as a nag and there is clearly botox going on. She might well be justified in her nagging but it's still nagging , take it up with the writers.

I disagree. But I think we've pretty much covered all area's of that disagreement by now.

 

[belboid]

I've never heard men called nags, incidentally.

which, I'm glad someone has realised, was my point.