Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[frogwoman]

It might have been a slightly better ending if the DEA had caught up with Walt before he died and he spent his last few hours locked up. We knew he was going to die anyway, so other than losing his family he got away with everything.

I could never decide if I was for or against Walt by the end. He'd done some terrible things, but you were still kinda rooting for him by the end

Are you kidding?? that would have been so shit. the good law abiding cops of the DEA get the bad guy?? no.

what WOULD have been a good ending was if hank and gomez had killed walt but then died in the process.

 

[Anonymous1]

Walt had to die, he went from being a good guy in a jam (understatement i know) to a complete monster.
Early on when Jesse was trying to get out Walt would always be going on about "no more have to die" followed by tripe about
being own bosses, raking in the big money etc.
After each addition to the body count it could always be justified.
Greed is the cost of doing business.

 

[neonwilderness]

Are you kidding?? that would have been so shit. the good law abiding cops of the DEA get the bad guy?? no.

what WOULD have been a good ending was if hank and gomez had killed walt but then died in the process.

I agree that it would have been shit if they'd just turned up at the end and caught Walt, but it seemed a bit of a cop (sic) out that they didn't really feature in this episode given how much they were onto him last week. I guess there was a lot of story to fit into an hour, it just seemed a bit convenient that they turned up just as Walt died.

 

[Superdupastupor]

moral of the show: pride is a deadly sin.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

...then Flynn woke up and it was all a dream.

 

[neonwilderness]

...then Flynn woke up and it was all a dream.

...then he went and ate some breakfast

 

[belboid]

Right I'll finally comment on how the series ended. The execution of the ending was flawless the choice of how they wanted it to end... Disappointing.

I was sold on the series by the description that it tracks one man's journey from Mr Chip to Scarface.

Yet at the end he never went full Scarface.

He put his house in order, relinquished his spoils, confessed his sins, killed the conveniently provided bad guys and died in a Jesus pose* to wash off the sins of others (Jesse off the hook and they'll go easier on the wife cause he is satisfyingly brought to justice i.e. dead). Redemption plus after his descent into bad.

I wanted him to go out guns blazing for selfish phycho reasons and get a true comeuppance rather than a voluntary noble ending of misery.

* As well as Grey Matter saying Walt was dead so nice Walt returning was a resurrection.

I largely agree. I'd have liked it if Gretchen and Elliott - despite being the worst characters in the whole series - had agreed to take the money but given him a bloody good talking to - pointing out that he had always run away and refused to face up to his own fears, inadequacies and shortcomings (which was why he ran away from Gretchen & Grey Matters in the first place,it seems), and that becoming Heisenberg was all part of the same thing. That would have rather undercut his final scene with Skyler tho, and it wouldnt work if he went to see Skyler first.

 

[belboid]

NO! We assume NOTHING! Unless it's revealed EXACTLY what happend, Huell is still waiting for Hank to return whilst listening to mambo music. Otherwise it's just totall unrealistic

no, we can assume things if they have been previously referenced in some way, or if very similar situations have happened and we see how the protagonists have overcome them. That's basic plotting. Anything else is just shit writing.

In this instance, maybe Huell went and told Saul, or maybe Saul heard about the two missing, presumed dead, DEA agents through his own - well established over the previous five series' - network of contacts among the criminal and law enforcement fraternities. Either is plausible - because of what we have earlier witnessed - which makes his, Saul's, appearance in the vacuum repair shop [a vague nod to Our Man In Havana? Cant think why they'd particularly want to do that, but I couldn't help thinking of it] perfectly reasonable.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I always hoped wanted to know what happened to the Russian that ran off in the Pine Barrens in The Sopranos.

I never did.

Life's like that.

 

[Fez909]

I always hoped wanted to know what happened to the Russian that ran off in the Pine Barrens in The Sopranos.

I never did.

Life's like that.

The interior designer? That episode was great

 

[SpookyFrank]

Directed by Steve Buscemi of course.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

no, we can assume things if they have been previously referenced in some way, or if very similar situations have happened and we see how the protagonists have overcome them. That's basic plotting. Anything else is just shit writing.

In this instance, maybe Huell went and told Saul, or maybe Saul heard about the two missing, presumed dead, DEA agents through his own - well established over the previous five series' - network of contacts among the criminal and law enforcement fraternities. Either is plausible - because of what we have earlier witnessed - which makes his, Saul's, appearance in the vacuum repair shop [a vague nod to Our Man In Havana? Cant think why they'd particularly want to do that, but I couldn't help thinking of it] perfectly reasonable.

Or you can not over analyse it and just pretend that Huell is still waiting in the hotel room listening to mambo.

 

[belboid]

you can not overanalyse it and pretend that Huell is having an affair with Marie, laughing about how they got away with the whole damned thing if you like.

Tho why you'd want to come on a thread discussing the qualities of a particular TV show (or any other cultural artefact) I don't know

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Haha I've done plenty of discussion about the qualities of it over the previous pages. I was actually just having a laugh, I would've thought that was obvious but nevermind.

 

[SpookyFrank]

[a vague nod to Our Man In Havana? Cant think why they'd particularly want to do that, but I couldn't help thinking of it]

I assumed it was a play on the dual meaning of 'extraction' tbh.

 

[Fez909]

Falling out over BB

Just rewatch it FFS. It'll be good the second time around as you'll spot stuff you missed.

 

[SpookyFrank]

you can not overanalyse it and pretend that Huell is having an affair with Marie, laughing about how they got away with the whole damned thing if you like.

Tho why you'd want to come on a thread discussing the qualities of a particular TV show (or any other cultural artefact) I don't know

The details aren't that important surely? Saul being who he is, he knew when it was time to get out of dodge. The plot was true to the characters, that's what mattered.

Huell, a downtrodden dogsbody, was told to sit and wait in an empty room so that's what he did and that's the last we see of him. This is also inkeeping with his character and his role in the story.

 

[belboid]

I assumed it was a play on the dual meaning of 'extraction' tbh.

aah, that sounds rather more likely. I don't think Our Man is considered a classic in the same way over there, the fools.

...The plot was true to the characters, that's what mattered.

...This is also inkeeping with his character and his role in the story.

spot on

 

[Redeyes]

I'm looking forward to the Mythbusters episode where they re-create Walt's M60 automatic nazi death gun set up.

 

[Yata]

I always hoped wanted to know what happened to the Russian that ran off in the Pine Barrens in The Sopranos.

I never did.

Life's like that.

damn you for reminding me about that

dont care what the critics say, explain EVERYTHING columbo style, it makes me feel better damn it

 

[Nanker Phelge]

damn you for reminding me about that

dont care what the critics say, explain EVERYTHING columbo style, it makes me feel better damn it

There is no Santa Claus y'know....and Paul McCartney is dead.

 

[gosub]

http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/m...uinness-record-for-critical-acclaim-1.1521441

 

[belboid]

Albuquerque Journal obituary

 

[thriller]

I'm BACK!!!!

After a ban

Anway, a nice way to end a great show.

Anyone who thought Walt when to save the Jesse is a dunce. He went to kill him and changed his mind when he saw him chained. Anyone who things Walt went to finger print the meth lab to absolve jesse is a dunce. He went there as a final look as he felt at home. Nowt to do with Jess.

 

[keybored]

Cheers for clearing that up.

 

[joustmaster]

Cheers for clearing that up.

 

[Gromit]

He went to kill the nazis.

They took his keys.

He needed to stall them to give him a chance to get to his keys.

Once again he 'used' Jesse to get what he needed! Put him in danger. And then tried to limit the damage by shielding him.

Breaking bad in microcosm.

 

[D'wards]

 

[thriller]

that's awesome.

 

[madamv]

Saul would be Mo