Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[frogwoman]

No one gives a shit how 2 Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps ended, because it was turgid from start to finish.

Fez909


And everyone's got different opinions on the different BB episodes. For example that one where Walt and Jesse are going around the meth lab trying to catch a fly, i thought was one of the best episodes in the entire thing but other people hated it. I don't think they ever would have pleased everyone. But it would have been really fucking shit if they'd had Walt die of cancer or - G-d forbid if he'd woke up and then the whole thing had just been a dream.

 

[Fez909]

Fez909


And everyone's got different opinions on the different BB episodes. For example that one where Walt and Jesse are going around the meth lab trying to catch a fly, i thought was one of the best episodes in the entire thing but other people hated it. I don't think they ever would have pleased everyone. But it would have been really fucking shit if they'd had Walt die of cancer or - G-d forbid if he'd woke up and then the whole thing had just been a dream.

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the fly episode! I think they did that to save money or was it when the writer's strike was on? There was a reason for it, which meant it was a bit of a filler episode.

It wasn't awful, mind

The "it was all a dream ending" would have been dreadful and would have left me with a really bad impression of the whole show because of that. The 'Disney' ending is far preferable!

 

[frogwoman]

One of the things i've read in like every book on writing ever that I've read is to NEVER EVER write that it was all a dream.

 

[captainmission]

As much as I wanted Jessie to live, it would have been a better ending had he died. Not everything needs to end well. Especially if the show is a morality play, which it is, then surely the consequences of his actions should reflect what would really happen. He wouldn't be free. He wouldn't get away with it. He probably wouldn't have lived, had this been anything even close to real life.

It didn't really end well for Jesse though. He is an utterly destroyed human being. Through his involvement in the drug trade most the people he ever care about are dead, he got nothing to live for and can only retreat in to a fantasy world of wood work. He already accepted he was going to die when he went after walt and that was before he got andrea killed. In my mind he'd be offr to the nearest meth den to O.D.

Walt should have received a less noble/wanted death.

This is what i was hoping for too. By the end i hated Walt and just wanted him defeated and humiliated with his plans coming to nothing, to the extent i didn't really care about his revenge on the nazis or lydia. Mainly just as a fuck you to the breaking bad audience that see Walt as anti-hero or focus on his 'i'm the one that knocks' coolness rather than the pathetic, self deluded, frequently incompatent and easily manipultated character he is.

 

[Fez909]

It didn't really end well for Jesse though. He is an utterly destroyed human being. Through his involvement in the drug trade most the people he ever care about are dead, he got nothing to live for and can only retreat in to a fantasy world of wood work. He already accepted he was going to die when he went after walt and that was before he got andrea killed. In my mind he'd be offr to the nearest meth den to O.D.



This is what i was hoping for too. By the end i hated Walt and just wanted him defeated and humiliated with his plans coming to nothing, to the extent i didn't really care about his revenge on the nazis or lydia. Mainly just as a fuck you to the breaking bad audience that see Walt as anti-hero or focus on his 'i'm the one that knocks' coolness rather than the pathetic, self deluded, frequently incompatent and easily manipultated character he is.

Good post!

 

[trabuquera]

ok another deliberately obnoxious pick at a plot hole: already very sick with relapsing cancer, walt buries all his cash in the desert at Tohajillee (if that's how you spell it.) All 7 (8?) huge barrels of it. With a shovel, in the heat, all alone, over a few hours in a single day.

I don't know how many of you have dug any large holes (or graves) recently - but this is not credible. digging is fecking hard work even if you are young and fit and only excavating enough to plant a tree, say. (i'm only still thinking of these quibbles because of lasting BB obsessiveness, you understand.)

 

[frogwoman]

ok another deliberately obnoxious pick at a plot hole: already very sick with relapsing cancer, walt buries all his cash in the desert at Tohajillee (if that's how you spell it.) All 7 (8?) huge barrels of it. With a shovel, in the heat, all alone, over a few hours in a single day.

I don't know how many of you have dug any large holes (or graves) recently - but this is not credible. digging is fecking hard work even if you are young and fit and only excavating enough to plant a tree, say. (i'm only still thinking of these quibbles because of lasting BB obsessiveness, you understand.)

i don't agree with you. my mum has had serious back problems for many years but still over exerts herself digging in the garden and stuff, she was up until a few years ago lifting paving slabs in the garden etc despite her injuries. people often don't realise that they're not as strong as they think they are, and someone like walt who is that fucking arrogant and egotistical will think that there's nothing wrong with what he's doing and carry on doing it even when he's completely fucked. he was completely fucked at the end.

 

[frogwoman]

arguing about breaking bad, ffs.

 

[DexterTCN]

...walt buries all his cash in the desert at Tohajillee (if that's how you spell it.) All 7 (8?) huge barrels of it. With a shovel, in the heat, all alone, over a few hours in a single day....

We don't know how long he was there.

Also...if you had $80 million to hide in the desert..how long do you think it would take you to dig that hole? I't be the fastest hole you'd ever dig.

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah, you can sometimes do stuff really fast when you want to and not realise how fucked you are at the end, it would probably be only when he sat down and had a rest that he realised.

 

[keybored]

arguing about breaking bad, ffs.

I let myself get dragged into a wholly pointless argument about the toxicity of ricin yesterday, including fine details like how it's far less potent when ingested so you'd never get enough to guarantee a lethal dose into a 1 gram sweetener packet, and how it being poured into a hot drink would likely render it harmless anyway.

That's one hour of my life I'll never get back, but hey I know a bit more about some poison I'll never encounter so, yeah

 

[neonwilderness]

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2013/10/01/the-crystal-meth-maze-2/

 

[SpookyFrank]

I let myself get dragged into a wholly pointless argument about the toxicity of ricin yesterday, including fine details like how it's far less potent when ingested so you'd never get enough to guarantee a lethal dose into a 1 gram sweetener packet, and how it being poured into a hot drink would likely render it harmless anyway.

That's one hour of my life I'll never get back, but hey I know a bit more about some poison I'll never encounter so, yeah

And tipping Lydia off that she'd been poisoned, telling her which poison it was even, was a pretty silly move.

That was the one bit of the finale that felt kinda forced, when she just happens to phone the very-recently-deceased Todd at that perfect moment.

 

[SpookyFrank]

i don't agree with you. my mum has had serious back problems for many years but still over exerts herself digging in the garden and stuff, she was up until a few years ago lifting paving slabs in the garden etc despite her injuries. people often don't realise that they're not as strong as they think they are, and someone like walt who is that fucking arrogant and egotistical will think that there's nothing wrong with what he's doing and carry on doing it even when he's completely fucked. he was completely fucked at the end.

I've fucked my back digging holes before now. Trouble is what feels like a wee twinge doesn't reveal itself for the horrible strain it really is until you stop digging.

 

[keybored]

And tipping Lydia off that she'd been poisoned, telling her which poison it was even, was a pretty silly move.

That was the one bit of the finale that felt kinda forced, when she just happens to phone the very-recently-deceased Todd at that perfect moment.

It was a shame they felt the need to spoon feed (no pun intended) the audience by zooming in on the Stevia, and then the tea as she stirred it in.

 

[belboid]

It was a shame they felt the need to spoon feed (no pun intended) the audience by zooming in on the Stevia, and then the tea as she stirred it in.

that was a straight lift from/homage to Taxi Driver (Bob stirring his alka seltzer into a glass of water, iirr) - which is also, like this finale, kinda based on The Searchers

 

[yardbird]

I've fucked my back digging holes before now. Trouble is what feels like a wee twinge doesn't reveal itself for the horrible strain it really is until you stop digging.

I tested the digging v body theory yesterday and the results are are.............

Spooky Frank is totally correct - See above. (Albeit I started with a fucked back)

Digging when we all know it's not possible - heat, desert, depth of hole etc.
It's about mind and matter - think about man single handed lifting a car off someone who's been knocked down. It's impossible but it happens.

 

[Gromit]

Right I'll finally comment on how the series ended. The execution of the ending was flawless the choice of how they wanted it to end... Disappointing.

I was sold on the series by the description that it tracks one man's journey from Mr Chip to Scarface.

Yet at the end he never went full Scarface.

He put his house in order, relinquished his spoils, confessed his sins, killed the conveniently provided bad guys and died in a Jesus pose* to wash off the sins of others (Jesse off the hook and they'll go easier on the wife cause he is satisfyingly brought to justice i.e. dead). Redemption plus after his descent into bad.

I wanted him to go out guns blazing for selfish phycho reasons and get a true comeuppance rather than a voluntary noble ending of misery.

* As well as Grey Matter saying Walt was dead so nice Walt returning was a resurrection.

 

[joustmaster]

I wanted him to go out guns blazing for selfish phycho reasons and get a true comeuppance rather than a voluntary noble ending of misery.

I think that ending would have pissed a lot of people off.

I was hoping for a more depressing end where his kids and wife get killed too. (which I ma sure would have pissed more people off)

 

[Ted Striker]

And as if you can't love a series enough, turns out Mike had a minor "Just a few more minutes chief" role in Airplane

 

[keybored]

And as if you can't love a series enough, turns out Mike had a minor "Just a few more minutes chief" role in Airplane

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[Doctor Carrot]

No one posted this yet?

 

[Yata]

tbh think they lost their nerve a bit, couldnt bring themselves to end it in a harsh way. i said it earlier in this thread, AMC bends to the will of the fans a bit too much sometimes. That said, I still liked the ending it just wasn't the best episode in the series

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Huell's got a great playlist.

 

[Gromit]

tbh think they lost their nerve a bit, couldnt bring themselves to end it in a harsh way. i said it earlier in this thread, AMC bends to the will of the fans a bit too much sometimes. That said, I still liked the ending it just wasn't the best episode in the series

Such a diversion though from what made the programme popular.

From edgy to a Stephen Spielberg (Mr Feelgood) ending.

Also I would have liked to have had Walt rampage with big gun in hand screaming say hello to my little friend.
To be honest doing it remotely with a clever contraption did fit in more with his MO.

 

[neonwilderness]

It might have been a slightly better ending if the DEA had caught up with Walt before he died and he spent his last few hours locked up. We knew he was going to die anyway, so other than losing his family he got away with everything.

I could never decide if I was for or against Walt by the end. He'd done some terrible things, but you were still kinda rooting for him by the end

 

[SpookyFrank]

Given that Saul went to the vaccuum cleaner guy and fucked off out of town, maybe we can assume that Huell left the safe house and warned him?

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Given that Saul went to the vaccuum cleaner guy and fucked off out of town, maybe we can assume that Huell left the safe house and warned him?

NO! We assume NOTHING! Unless it's revealed EXACTLY what happend, Huell is still waiting for Hank to return whilst listening to mambo music. Otherwise it's just totall unrealistic

 

[Ranu]

This is wonderful.

 

[no-no]

I've stayed away from this thread for ages as I've been playing catchup. I liked the ending but I would have liked to have seen more between Jessie and Walt at the end although I guess there wasn't much left to say.

An odd series, it felt similar to watching something by shane meadows at times.It started out as a funny show but the more I watched the less I laughed, not a bad thing though.

I like to remember them like this....