Breaking Bad (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
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Someone just lent me the box sets on DVD and, although I'm several years behind in discovering Breaking Bad, I must say that it is quite a stunning piece of TV. Has it ever been shown on UK television? It really is the best drama series I've seen... the acting, the way that it's filmed, the script, everything oozes quality.... talk about cooking meth being an art.... this series is art.
I'm just blown away by it.
I'm just blown away by it.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Ch 5 started to show it, I believe, but don't think many people watched.
Series 1 and 2 were repeated on 5 USA over Christmas/New Year (2009/10?). That was my introduction and I waited for ever hoping the remaining Series would be shown in the UK. Eventually invested in the box set and watched S3-5 over several weeks at the start of this year. Magnificent TV show, I look forward to re-watching the whole thing from the start again, will especially enjoy S1 and 2 as has been a while since I watched them.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Thought we had the whole of Season 5 to watch - turns out we were missing the final episode. 
So now I'm downloading episode 16 on my painfully slow internet so we can finally watch the finale. 9 hours to go...
So now I'm downloading episode 16 on my painfully slow internet so we can finally watch the finale. 9 hours to go...
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Thought we had the whole of Season 5 to watch - turns out we were missing the final episode.
So now I'm downloading episode 16 on my painfully slow internet so we can finally watch the finale. 9 hours to go...
It should be worth the wait.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Wish I could 'unwatch it' and then watch it again!
Reno
The In Kraut
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
You do know that Anna Gunn was on the receiving end of a sustained campaign of complaints, hate mail and death threats?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/opinion/i-have-a-character-issue.html?_r=0
Reno
The In Kraut
There is a worrying history of hate campaigns against female and especially wife characters in drama series and the actresses who play them (see also The Sopranos and The Walking Dead among others). Characters who generally just try to make the best of a bad situation while their (frequently corrupt, lying, murdering) husbands are feted as heroes. Plain Internet misogyny.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
See also Cersei Lannister.
Skyler is one of the best characters in the series, her reaction to Walts Empire evolves throughout the series.
Reno
The In Kraut
Unlike the relatively inoffensive wife characters in Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead, Cersei is one of the main villains of GoT. No doubt the hate towards her is probably disproportionate in comparison to some male villains of the series who are even worse.
Reno
The In Kraut
Another female character who got a lot of disproportionate hate was Betty from Mad Men, a wife and mother who develops mental health issues because of the restricting demands a patriarchal society imposes on her. The series dealt with misogyny head on and ironically a character who was a victim of her circumstances got a lot of hate.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Corax is pretty feminist on here. Sometimes we just go with out gut instincts/own experiences on whether we like a character or not. I hope we've not reached the point where our superiors dictate to us how we should feel about characters in fiction. Has there been some sort of offical survey done on how we rate the characters in Mad Men?
(Strangely enough, it was Betty that kept me watching Mad Men. If it hadn't been for that touching scene between her and the kid in the car near the end of S1, I might have found it a bit dry and watched no further.)
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
I think early on I found her annoying but as the show evolved I gained more and more sympathy for her. By the end I was utterly on her side.
Reno
The In Kraut
Who are "our superiors" ?
Has there been some sort of offical survey done on how we rate the characters in Mad Men?
Not on here, but there are plenty of articles out there:
The 'Mad Men' Double-Standard: Why Do Fans Hate Betty but Love Don?
Gromit
International Man of Misery
You utterly support napalmimg thousands of people to eliminate a few enemies?
How nice.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Corax is pretty feminist on here. Sometimes we just go with out gut instincts/own experiences on whether we like a character or not. I hope we've not reached the point where our superiors dictate to us how we should feel about characters in fiction. Has there been some sort of offical survey done on how we rate the characters in Mad Men?
I think theres a world of difference between "having an opinion on a character" and "sending the actress playing the part death threats"
Reno
The In Kraut
She was talking about Skyler.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I don't want to spoiler the rest for you but it doesn't get better.
I think in some instances the audience is made to choose between Walt and Skyler when the truth is that there is no correct side to pick. They are both deplorable actually.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Who are "our superiors" ?
The thought police, those of superior politics, etc.
No proof that the over-whelming attitude towards Don is admiration and to Betty hatred. You'd have to be pretty stupid to watch Mad Men and not realise Don is flawed, even more to see him as a hero. Anyway, there are all sorts of reasons a character might get on your nerves other than a rational critique of their behaviour. For example, Don doesn't commit any sin that Pete doesn't, but Pete is more unlikeable IMO...
TBH, I wasn't a big fan of Skylar in BB, but sometimes the narrative persuades you to identify with a particular character and root for them, even if they are dodgy like Walt...
Reno
The In Kraut
Oh just fuck off with your demand for "proof". All you need to add is "It's political correctness gone mad!" if you want to come across as totally clueless as to who our society rewards over and over, no matter what shit they pull and whom it punishes. And that appears to be mirrored in people's responses to TV drama. Newsflash: There are a lot of stupid people out there.
It's not so much disliking a female character for merely trying to cope, it's the sheer aggression displayed towards them, which I find so disturbing. Maybe this is uncharacteristic of Corax, but it's pretty much in keeping with much of what goes on on social media.
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Corax is pretty feminist on here. Sometimes we just go with out gut instincts/own experiences on whether we like a character or not. I hope we've not reached the point where our superiors dictate to us how we should feel about characters in fiction. Has there been some sort of offical survey done on how we rate the characters in Mad Men?
It was just pointed out that there's a long history of hating on female characters. No one is accusing Corax of doing that or being anti-feminist.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
To quote I Claudius this smacks of Infamy Infamy they all have it Infamy.
Joffrey Baratheon had far more hate that Cersei had.
It's only fair for the sake of equality that a woman has been given a chance to beat him.
The interesting part is that she is his mother. She always professed confusion as to where he got his pure evil from.
Are we to learn that it was in her after all. She merely hadn't freed it like him.
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Shut up and fuck off, you boring cunt.
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
Sorry, you're obviously right. I mean, who needs good evidence when a glance at Twitter will do?
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