Brady's, Brixton (Railway Hotel): history, chat and plans

[editor]

There you go. You specifically asked me whether I thought Buzz had a tightly defined template of acceptability. I answered. And then you - Editor and mod - tell me to fuck off and post it somewhere else.

My arse!

By Christ, you're deceitful. How many posts of yours have I deleted or edited recently?

 

[Rushy]

By Christ, you're deceitful. How many posts of yours have I deleted or edited recently?

 

[boohoo]

For sure, and that's just fine. But it gets a bit tricky when brand Wahaca is loudly throwing around their 'community' credentials and bigging up how they 'design they business to suit the local area'.

In fact, that article says that they were aware of the reaction that they may get, so I would have thought the best way to handle that was to face it head on rather than just ignoring any elements of the community who aren't enthusiastically applauding their every move.

it might be about who they think the community is - and they might have decided that as it stands, the urban75 and Brixton buzz readers are not the community they want to appeal to.

 

[editor]

Yes, the answer is none. No posts of your have been edited or deleted.

So you are indeed free to express what you like*, and do so on an daily basis, and to imply otherwise is deeply dishonest and disruptive. Please stop.

*within the rules that apply to everyone

 

[editor]

it might be about who they think the community is - and they might have decided that as it stands, the urban75 and Brixton buzz readers are not the community they want to appeal to.

I could maybe see the urban75 bit - even though there is nothing like a unified opinion being expressed here - but I'm failing to see why they would not want to engage with Brixton Buzz, given its huge local popularity.

It's not like they've been slagged off there at all. In fact, their restaurant has had more coverage there than anywhere else in the past two months.

 

[Rushy]

Yes, the answer is none. No p[osts of your have been edited or deleted.

So you are indeed free to express what you like*, and do so on an daily basis, and to imply otherwise is deeply dishonest and disruptive. Please stop.

*within the rules that apply to everyone

So now I'm dishonest and disruptive for face palming you.
Oh and - er - isn't being disruptive a banning offence?
And didn't you just add a little reminder to stay within the rules.

Free to post what I like... honest!

 

[editor]

So now I'm dishonest and disruptive for face palming you.
Oh and - er - isn't being disruptive a banning offence?
And didn't you just add a little reminder to stay within the rules.

Free to post what I like... honest!

I don't much care for your childish personal vendettas so please now try and stay on topic. This thread is about Brady's/Wahaca. Thanks.

 

[Rushy]

I don't much care for your childish personal vendettas so please now try and stay on topic. This thread is about Brady's/Wahaca. Thanks.

Sorry Ed, but a moderator asked me what I thought of Brixton Buzz and I said it was slightly less sneery than U75 and he didn't like that. My bad.

 

[elmpp]

Certainly been getting a bit heavy with the moderation as of late. I can attest

 

[SpamMisery]

Who gives a monkeys; it's a new business, good luck to them.

 

[boohoo]

SpamMisery - you are mister Victorian heritage - what do you think of the paint job on the outside?

 

[leanderman]

it might be about who they think the community is - and they might have decided that as it stands, the urban75 and Brixton buzz readers are not the community they want to appeal to.

They might have decided Urban 75 is not at all representative

 

[SarfLondoner]

I have often seen Urban 75 described as an"e zine for anarchists and activists" i dont think it fits the criteria for their desired patron.

 

[editor]

They might have decided Urban 75 is not at all representative

So it's just the same old meaningless PR fluff, then.

 

[Winot]

Here's an idea - why don't we see how the 'community' stuff pans out and *then* decide how they measure up?

 

[SpamMisery]

SpamMisery - you are mister Victorian heritage - what do you think of the paint job on the outside?

Ha! A bit quirky, but paint jobs aren't forever. But then I quite liked the bright yellow iPhone add above Iceland

 

[editor]

Here's an idea - why don't we see how the 'community' stuff pans out and *then* decide how they measure up?

Seems to be stalling on the first hurdle, no?

 

[Rushy]

Which is..?

 

[Winot]

Which is..?

Contacting Urban75 and asking for their blessing. Not that there is such a *thing* as Urban75 of course.

 

[Rushy]

Contacting Urban75 and asking for their blessing.

Amateurs.

 

[editor]

Which is..?

Going on and on about being "conscious" about fitting in with "Brixton’s vibe or community" and wanting "to avoid a debate on arrogant big brands entering a community" but then doing exactly that by being completely selective about who they actually talk to.

 

[editor]

Contacting Urban75 and asking for their blessing. Not that there is such a *thing* as Urban75 of course.

The many different posters who make up urban75 are only one voice of many in the community, but it's every bit as representative/non-representative as, for example, Number 6 Somerleyton Road, who they've elected to deal with.

 

[Boudicca]

If I was starting up a new business in Brixton, there is no way I would go anywhere near urban75 to promote it - it's just too risky.

 

[newbie]

I'm finding this conversation about 'community' and branding and that a bit jarring tbh.

That building is obviously prominent and important. It was the Railway for 100 years or more and formed a centrally important part of Brixton life. Certainly in its latter years it was for all sorts of different groups who rubbed shoulders and drank in there, in the days when the local was a very important part of communication rather than simply for socialising amongst peers.

Then for whatever reason it metamorphosed into a trendies pub and changed its branding to reflect that, in much the same way the Atlantic became the Dogstar, the Canning turned into whatever its called now, the Hope... and so on, all aimed at much the same, rather narrow, demographic, part of that phase of gentrification.

Then a very few years later it was gone, that incarnation as fleetingly irrelevant as (I had to look this up) Babushka. Except to 'the community' as represented hereabouts, for whom 'Bradys' seems to have mythological status as an exemplar brand of some sort.

None of which matters, of course, but maybe some perspective could be applied when getting precious about these things.

 

[snowy_again]

I think it would be nearly impossible to not to be aware of urban75 or B Buzz if you're
(a) capable of using Google and (b) have extensively researched Brady's and made claims about its heritage and history.

I've worked in several Brixton and non Brixton based volunteering / service providing / development / voluntary sector organisations.

Many of them firewalled access to U75.

And many people continue to do community development work without using the internet at all; I'm sure statistics on digital exclusion have been posted on these threads before.

 

[Rushy]

Going on and on about being "conscious" about fitting in with "Brixton’s vibe or community" and wanting "to avoid a debate on arrogant big brands entering a community" but then doing exactly that by being completely selective about who they actually talk to.

The many different posters who make up urban75 are only one voice of many in the community, but it's every bit as representative/non-representative as, for example, Number 6 Somerleyton Road, who they've elected to deal with.

"Mother, those nasty new kids don't want to play my games and
have been hanging out at No.6 instead. Why won't anyone tell those
arseholes just how representative of The Community I am?"​

 

[editor]

I've worked in several Brixton and non Brixton based volunteering / service providing / development / voluntary sector organisations.

Many of them firewalled access to U75.

And many people continue to do community development work without using the internet at all; I'm sure statistics on digital exclusion have been posted on these threads before.

Wait, are you seriously trying to construct an argument that no one from Wahaca has seen, heard or ever accessed Brixton Buzz or urban75 via any device or network? Type in Brixton or Brixton Bradys into Google search or news and take a look-see at what comes up.

 

[editor]

If I was starting up a new business in Brixton, there is no way I would go anywhere near urban75 to promote it - it's just too risky.

I cant say I'm bothered if they do or don't, so it's all good. The site wasn't set up to advertise and promote business chains.

 

[snowy_again]

No, I'm saying that many people aren't aware that U75 exists, and then lots of people can't access the site via a work server.

My comments had nothing in particular to do with Wahaca / Brady's.

 

[Spymaster]

Wait, are you seriously trying to construct an argument that no one from Wahaca has seen, heard or ever accessed Brixton Buzz or urban75 via any device or network?

I think the argument is more along the lines that everyone at Wahaca will not have seen or heard of your websites and of those that have, many won't care about them or will actively avoid them.