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Bradley Quinton appointed as Hamlet Men's First Team manager

Ben Clasper a week or so ago:

“We have options who could start immediately that would see us through to the end of the season but it is important that the next manager is a fit for the broader strategy for the club and how football is run and so while there are some incredible managers available now, to make availability the only criteria would be a mistake.”

Ben Clasper tonight:

“The board therefore took the decision to prioritise the appointment of someone who will assume responsibility for managing the team for the remainder of the season with a focus solely on improving results in the short term and getting the best out of a talented squad.

This will then afford the board the time to complete its review of how to address some of the other issues in time to plan for next season and beyond, issues that we believe have contributed to the club’s under-performance in recent years.”

Seems like a pretty dramatic about turn in approach in a matter of days.

Perhaps these “other issues” have put prospective or preferred candidates off the job?
 
What are these other issues exactly?

Don't really know what to make of it. Sacked by Braintree, Welling, and Hemel. Bit underwhelmed.
It would be interesting to have a more specific description of these issues. This is the key sentence for me:

"The board therefore took the decision to prioritise the appointment of someone who will assume responsibility for managing the team for the remainder of the season with a focus solely on improving results in the short term and getting the best out of a talented squad."

Each of the three clubs who've sacked him has been something of a manager's graveyard in recent seasons, with a ridiculous turnover of managers and often pulling the trigger in mid-season, so I reckon he may well be rather better than that list of sackings looks.

First of all we need to make sure our club doesn't become like those clubs after 3 mid-season sackings during the last 3 seasons, so he's really an interim manager in all but name. Right now we need a "safe pair of hands", and hopefully our directors have done enough due diligence to be confident that's what he is. The first priority has to be simply to get the additional 17 or so points from the remaining 17 games that will ensure we're still in this division, and to get them as swiftly as possible. After taking just 6 points from the last 11 games, that can't be taken for granted, but nevertheless it should be well within the capability of the current squad. Get those points within the first 10 games or so, then we can think about pushing for the top half of the table in the remaining weeks of the season. Best scenario is we pick up another 30+ points, in which case our new man will have made a strong case to be given the chance to reshape the squad in the summer and take us forward.

Bradley spent most of his lengthy playing career with Braintree, through three promotions from Isthmian Division 1 to National Division, then joined Enfield Town. After a couple of seasons there, he succeeded the manager's job for the 2016-17 season and built a decent footballing side with plenty of good young players. He got them into the Isthmian Premier play-offs in his first season, when they succumbed to Ibra Sekajja's hat-trick in a 4-2 semi-final defeat at Champion Hill.

That summer he returned to Braintree (newly relegated from the National Division) as manager, taking several of his Enfield players with him including Billy Crook, and got then promoted from National South at the first attempt via the play-offs. He must have been something of a club legend at Braintree, but perhaps not surprisingly they found it tough at the higher level as one of the minnows in that division, and he was sacked after just a few weeks. (Bear in mind their chairman is the bloke who ordered our media team to stop filming a match at their ground halfway through the game when they were losing. He also sacked another manager last month only a few months after getting them promoted, so he sounds somewhat unreasonable and prone to kneejerk reactions.)

Next stop was Welling, when they were struggling in mid-season, but he turned that around and kept them up only to get the push midway through the following season. That's not a big club in that league and it's surely only a matter of time before they slip through the trapdoor. I'm amazed they've survived this long when they always seem to be in a state of flux with ownership and ground redevelopments, never mind the continual changes of manager.

Hemel's manager was on borrowed time when they beat us immediately after Gavin Rose's sacking, but when he eventually got the push it was Quinton who replaced him. Again, he turned that season around and secured safety, but then got sacked around a year ago after a brief run of poor results while still in a comfortble mid-table position. They brought in Alan Dowson as interim and finished lower than when he'd arrived, before giving the job to Bobby Williamson in the summer, but he's already been sacked with Lee Allinson from Hendon replacing him!

You never really know how any new manager is going to work out, but he does have experience of taking over clubs in a similar position to ourselves at a similar point in the season (Welling and Hemel) within the last 5 years and delivering exactly what was needed over the rest of that season. Given the bewildering range of options and alternatives, I see no reason to be overly sceptical about this appointment.
 
It would be interesting to have a more specific description of these issues. This is the key sentence for me:

"The board therefore took the decision to prioritise the appointment of someone who will assume responsibility for managing the team for the remainder of the season with a focus solely on improving results in the short term and getting the best out of a talented squad."

Each of the three clubs who've sacked him has been something of a manager's graveyard in recent seasons, with a ridiculous turnover of managers and often pulling the trigger in mid-season, so I reckon he may well be rather better than that list of sackings looks.

First of all we need to make sure our club doesn't become like those clubs after 3 mid-season sackings during the last 3 seasons, so he's really an interim manager in all but name. Right now we need a "safe pair of hands", and hopefully our directors have done enough due diligence to be confident that's what he is. The first priority has to be simply to get the additional 17 or so points from the remaining 17 games that will ensure we're still in this division, and to get them as swiftly as possible. After taking just 6 points from the last 11 games, that can't be taken for granted, but nevertheless it should be well within the capability of the current squad. Get those points within the first 10 games or so, then we can think about pushing for the top half of the table in the remaining weeks of the season. Best scenario is we pick up another 30+ points, in which case our new man will have made a strong case to be given the chance to reshape the squad in the summer and take us forward.

Bradley spent most of his lengthy playing career with Braintree, through three promotions from Isthmian Division 1 to National Division, then joined Enfield Town. After a couple of seasons there, he succeeded the manager's job for the 2016-17 season and built a decent footballing side with plenty of good young players. He got them into the Isthmian Premier play-offs in his first season, when they succumbed to Ibra Sekajja's hat-trick in a 4-2 semi-final defeat at Champion Hill.

That summer he returned to Braintree (newly relegated from the National Division) as manager, taking several of his Enfield players with him including Billy Crook, and got then promoted from National South at the first attempt via the play-offs. He must have been something of a club legend at Braintree, but perhaps not surprisingly they found it tough at the higher level as one of the minnows in that division, and he was sacked after just a few weeks. (Bear in mind their chairman is the bloke who ordered our media team to stop filming a match at their ground halfway through the game when they were losing. He also sacked another manager last month only a few months after getting them promoted, so he sounds somewhat unreasonable and prone to kneejerk reactions.)

Next stop was Welling, when they were struggling in mid-season, but he turned that around and kept them up only to get the push midway through the following season. That's not a big club in that league and it's surely only a matter of time before they slip through the trapdoor. I'm amazed they've survived this long when they always seem to be in a state of flux with ownership and ground redevelopments, never mind the continual changes of manager.

Hemel's manager was on borrowed time when they beat us immediately after Gavin Rose's sacking, but when he eventually got the push it was Quinton who replaced him. Again, he turned that season around and secured safety, but then got sacked around a year ago after a brief run of poor results while still in a comfortble mid-table position. They brought in Alan Dowson as interim and finished lower than when he'd arrived, before giving the job to Bobby Williamson in the summer, but he's already been sacked with Lee Allinson from Hendon replacing him!

You never really know how any new manager is going to work out, but he does have experience of taking over clubs in a similar position to ourselves at a similar point in the season (Welling and Hemel) within the last 5 years and delivering exactly what was needed over the rest of that season. Given the bewildering range of options and alternatives, I see no reason to be overly sceptical about this appointment.

Braintree are a fucking horrible club so on reflection that sacking might be a sign that he's alright!

We'll see how he does. Hopefully he can turn some of the squad over, bc I always felt that really hampered Barnes's reign (e.g. not being able to keep Eweka.) Think it's important for a manager to be able to put his own stamp on the team and get a few players in that he likes. He'll probs have to shift some of the ones we currently have, but judging by recent performances he's spoilt for choice there.
 
We'll see how he does. Hopefully he can turn some of the squad over, bc I always felt that really hampered Barnes's reign (e.g. not being able to keep Eweka.) Think it's important for a manager to be able to put his own stamp on the team and get a few players in that he likes. He'll probs have to shift some of the ones we currently have, but judging by recent performances he's spoilt for choice there.
He's more experienced than Barnes as a manager of contracted players, and he's got specific experience of taking over two clubs a division higher in similar circumstances. Barnes must have known the constraints he was under, in terms of having to work with the player he inherited, because he was interim manager for a month before pushing himself forward to take the job on a longer term basis. Eweka was an upgrade, but didn't exactly help by getting that stupid red card in the home win against Chelmsford. Losing Jayden Clarke in the January transfer window was surely the biggest single blow.

You've said before that you haven't actually managed to see many games this season. I've seen every home league game and 5 out of 12 away. I don't think the current players are collectively anything like as much of a problem as two seasons ago. A decent coach should already have almost all the players he needs to get the job done for the rest of this season without needing more than the odd newcomer, and with the two Luton loanees now gone there must be scope to at least bring in a couple more on loan from somewhere. It's a stronger group than we had last season for a start. The bigger problem in my view has been the extraordinary number of injuries. Ramsay, German and Ross Marshall would have made a big difference if they'd all been available regularly, but none has even played close to half our games.

Look on the bright side. It's not Steve King or Sammy Moore!
 
I just want to see some collective sustained energy and grit tomorrow - anything more would be a bonus. That horrible Carshalton game at least got us three points thank God. My hope was Danny Mills would bring this spirit through his example so I assumed he'd be caretaker for a while. However, the decision is now made. Given injuries (not unique to our club btw no matter how many times we hear it) surely side picks itself thus motivation is key factor. Our away support should be enough to provide that
 
Know nothing about managerial appointments at this level and have only seen a few games live this year but this is encouraging. An appointment for the now and see what happens end of the season.

Looking forward to tomorrow and got to be optimistic about the new broom.
It would be interesting to have a more specific description of these issues. This is the key sentence for me:

"The board therefore took the decision to prioritise the appointment of someone who will assume responsibility for managing the team for the remainder of the season with a focus solely on improving results in the short term and getting the best out of a talented squad."

Each of the three clubs who've sacked him has been something of a manager's graveyard in recent seasons, with a ridiculous turnover of managers and often pulling the trigger in mid-season, so I reckon he may well be rather better than that list of sackings looks.

First of all we need to make sure our club doesn't become like those clubs after 3 mid-season sackings during the last 3 seasons, so he's really an interim manager in all but name. Right now we need a "safe pair of hands", and hopefully our directors have done enough due diligence to be confident that's what he is. The first priority has to be simply to get the additional 17 or so points from the remaining 17 games that will ensure we're still in this division, and to get them as swiftly as possible. After taking just 6 points from the last 11 games, that can't be taken for granted, but nevertheless it should be well within the capability of the current squad. Get those points within the first 10 games or so, then we can think about pushing for the top half of the table in the remaining weeks of the season. Best scenario is we pick up another 30+ points, in which case our new man will have made a strong case to be given the chance to reshape the squad in the summer and take us forward.

Bradley spent most of his lengthy playing career with Braintree, through three promotions from Isthmian Division 1 to National Division, then joined Enfield Town. After a couple of seasons there, he succeeded the manager's job for the 2016-17 season and built a decent footballing side with plenty of good young players. He got them into the Isthmian Premier play-offs in his first season, when they succumbed to Ibra Sekajja's hat-trick in a 4-2 semi-final defeat at Champion Hill.

That summer he returned to Braintree (newly relegated from the National Division) as manager, taking several of his Enfield players with him including Billy Crook, and got then promoted from National South at the first attempt via the play-offs. He must have been something of a club legend at Braintree, but perhaps not surprisingly they found it tough at the higher level as one of the minnows in that division, and he was sacked after just a few weeks. (Bear in mind their chairman is the bloke who ordered our media team to stop filming a match at their ground halfway through the game when they were losing. He also sacked another manager last month only a few months after getting them promoted, so he sounds somewhat unreasonable and prone to kneejerk reactions.)

Next stop was Welling, when they were struggling in mid-season, but he turned that around and kept them up only to get the push midway through the following season. That's not a big club in that league and it's surely only a matter of time before they slip through the trapdoor. I'm amazed they've survived this long when they always seem to be in a state of flux with ownership and ground redevelopments, never mind the continual changes of manager.

Hemel's manager was on borrowed time when they beat us immediately after Gavin Rose's sacking, but when he eventually got the push it was Quinton who replaced him. Again, he turned that season around and secured safety, but then got sacked around a year ago after a brief run of poor results while still in a comfortble mid-table position. They brought in Alan Dowson as interim and finished lower than when he'd arrived, before giving the job to Bobby Williamson in the summer, but he's already been sacked with Lee Allinson from Hendon replacing him!

You never really know how any new manager is going to work out, but he does have experience of taking over clubs in a similar position to ourselves at a similar point in the season (Welling and Hemel) within the last 5 years and delivering exactly what was needed over the rest of that season. Given the bewildering range of options and alternatives, I see no reason to be overly sceptical about this appointment.
 
If results don't go our way and we bomb tomorrow we couild end up in 18th - we need something and I travel in hope that players are as good as Millsy says
 
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He's more experienced than Barnes as a manager of contracted players, and he's got specific experience of taking over two clubs a division higher in similar circumstances. Barnes must have known the constraints he was under, in terms of having to work with the player he inherited, because he was interim manager for a month before pushing himself forward to take the job on a longer term basis. Eweka was an upgrade, but didn't exactly help by getting that stupid red card in the home win against Chelmsford. Losing Jayden Clarke in the January transfer window was surely the biggest single blow.

You've said before that you haven't actually managed to see many games this season. I've seen every home league game and 5 out of 12 away. I don't think the current players are collectively anything like as much of a problem as two seasons ago. A decent coach should already have almost all the players he needs to get the job done for the rest of this season without needing more than the odd newcomer, and with the two Luton loanees now gone there must be scope to at least bring in a couple more on loan from somewhere. It's a stronger group than we had last season for a start. The bigger problem in my view has been the extraordinary number of injuries. Ramsay, German and Ross Marshall would have made a big difference if they'd all been available regularly, but none has even played close to half our games.

Look on the bright side. It's not Steve King or Sammy Moore!

Yeh, you're right. I was just going off results and highlights. I think I was just a bit grumpy last night. Getting Braintree promoted to the Conference is a good achievement and he comes across well in that interview.

Might just have to finally face up to the fact that Craig Edwards isn't coming back. 😆😭
 
Has there been a fan’s forum so far this season?

Given the state the men’s team finds itself in, on and off the pitch, feels like one is well overdue.
Asked this myself when discussing the role of our Director of Football and didn’t get a response. Hopefully there’ll be some enlightenment from within the club soon?
Post in thread 'Dulwich Hamlet vs Bognor Regis Town, ILP, Saturday 4th January'
Dulwich Hamlet vs Bognor Regis Town, ILP, Saturday 4th January
 
Looking at the run in and I appreciate every game is important, I think there are two critical periods.

Firstly 8-22 Feb, we need to to be looking at taking a minimum of 7 points from the 3 games. Games are Bowers H, Hastings A and Potters Bar A.

Secondly 22 Mar - 5 Apr, we need to try to pick up something to keep us ticking over. Games are Dover A, Dartford H and Cray Valley A.
 
Looking at the run in and I appreciate every game is important, I think there are two critical periods.

Firstly 8-22 Feb, we need to to be looking at taking a minimum of 7 points from the 3 games. Games are Bowers H, Hastings A and Potters Bar A.

Secondly 22 Mar - 5 Apr, we need to try to pick up something to keep us ticking over. Games are Dover A, Dartford H and Cray Valley A.
On a similar theme - we could need 5 wins to stay up. Could be less, but 44+ points have occasionally been needed to finish fifth from bottom in recent seasons, and Hendon are on track for 44 points on a points-per-game basis.

Of course a few draws mixed in helps relieve the pressure on wins but if wins are needed, from the following (Folkestone (H) still TBA) and based on current form, I’d imagine these would be the best chances of achieving that - noting we’ve won once away in the League all season.
  • 8th Feb - Bowers & Pitsea (H)
  • 15th Feb - Hastings (A)
  • 15th Mar - Cheshunt (H)
  • 12th April - Bognor Regis (A)
  • 19th April - Canvey Island (H)
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On a similar theme - we could need 5 wins to stay up. Could be less, but 44+ points have occasionally been needed to finish fifth from bottom in recent seasons, and Hendon are on track for 44 points on a points-per-game basis.

Of course a few draws mixed in helps relieve the pressure on wins but if wins are needed, from the following (Folkestone (H) still TBA) and based on current form, I’d imagine these would be the best chances of achieving that - noting we’ve won once away in the League all season.
  • 8th Feb - Bowers & Pitsea (H)
  • 15th Feb - Hastings (A)
  • 15th Mar - Cheshunt (H)
  • 12th April - Bognor Regis (A)
  • 19th April - Canvey Island (H)
So many teams in the league seem incapable of consistency in either direction it's more of a next game focus for me and we have enough to beat most sides. Ricay drum kids at station very good natured song - down the bowers you're going down with the bowers. I don't think so
 
On a similar theme - we could need 5 wins to stay up. Could be less, but 44+ points have occasionally been needed to finish fifth from bottom in recent seasons, and Hendon are on track for 44 points on a points-per-game basis.

Of course a few draws mixed in helps relieve the pressure on wins but if wins are needed, from the following (Folkestone (H) still TBA) and based on current form, I’d imagine these would be the best chances of achieving that - noting we’ve won once away in the League all season.
  • 8th Feb - Bowers & Pitsea (H)
  • 15th Feb - Hastings (A)
  • 15th Mar - Cheshunt (H)
  • 12th April - Bognor Regis (A)
  • 19th April - Canvey Island (H)
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I'm not sure how Hendon can be "on track" for 44 points when they've currently lost 9 games on the spin. Right now they're on track for 26 points, which is the number they already have! At the end of November they were 3 points ahead of us and they're now 3 behind us. That's how much worse than us they've been. Of course they lost their manager while they were doing well and have only just found a new one following a disastrous spell with a senior player as caretaker/interim manager, so if that appointment is successful they may end up with more than 44 points, but he lost his first match 3-0 at home to Carshalton yesterday.

Wingate & Finchley looked a good side and were in the top 5 when we beat them in early November, but now they're only 2 points ahead of us.

Lewes had a flying start with 20 points from their first 8 games, but they've only picked up another 13 points (2 wins) from 16 subsequent games, and are just 4 points ahead of us.

Bognor lost 4-0 at Cray Valley yesterday, which really puts our result a fortnight ago into perspective, but we seem to have had a remarkable sequence of playing teams in the bottom half of the table just when they'd begun to get their act together. Hashtag were in the bottom 4 when they triggered our collapse by winning at Champion Hill. Cray Wanderers were near the bottom until December, then they hit a winning streak before we visited them, and only conceded an equaliser against Billericay in stoppage time.

There are plenty of other teams in poor form right now, with only Hastings in the overall bottom 4 in slightly better form than ourselves in the 10 match form guide, so I see no reason not to believe our new manager can turn this around.

One thing you can usually rely upon is the points won't come from the matches you most expect them to.

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I'm not sure how Hendon can be "on track" for 44 points when they've currently lost 9 games on the spin. Right now they're on track for 26 points, which is the number they already have! At the end of November they were 3 points ahead of us and they're now 3 behind us. That's how much worse than us they've been. Of course they lost their manager while they were doing well and have only just found a new one following a disastrous spell with a senior player as caretaker/interim manager, so if that appointment is successful they may end up with more than 44 points, but he lost his first match 3-0 at home to Carshalton yesterday.

Wingate & Finchley looked a good side and were in the top 5 when we beat them in early November, but now they're only 2 points ahead of us.

Lewes had a flying start with 20 points from their first 8 games, but they've only picked up another 13 points (2 wins) from 16 subsequent games, and are just 4 points ahead of us.

Bognor lost 4-0 at Cray Valley yesterday, which really puts our result a fortnight ago into perspective, but we seem to have had a remarkable sequence of playing teams in the bottom half of the table just when they'd begun to get their act together. Hashtag were in the bottom 4 when they triggered our collapse by winning at Champion Hill. Cray Wanderers were near the bottom until December, then they hit a winning streak before we visited them, and only conceded an equaliser against Billericay in stoppage time.

There are plenty of other teams in poor form right now, with only Hastings in the overall bottom 4 in slightly better form than ourselves in the 10 match form guide, so I see no reason not to believe our new manager can turn this around.

One thing you can usually rely upon is the points won't come from the matches you most expect them to.

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“Hendon are on track for 44 points on a points-per-game basis.”

Hope that helps. I can show you the workings out if not.
 
Well, I guessed that was the logic, I just don't feel it has a great deal of relevance right now since their sharp decline in form.
But you said you weren’t sure how they could be on track for 44 points. That’s how. You might not think they’ll get that many, but that’s not the point I was making.

Here’s one you might like a bit more - 15 out of the 16 teams who were in the bottom four at this point over the last four Isthmian Premier season completed over 42 games were in the bottom four at the end of the season. And before you start, Brightlingsea Regent got a reprieve in 2021/22 due to Cray Wanderers picking up a three point deduction.
 
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