BNP national demo in Keighley

[belboid]

on november 5th, under the title “ARREST RACIST CHILD RAPISTS” (the caps are there's!), & in conjunction with Mothers Against Paediphiles apparently (are they a front group for the bnp?) complaining about the disbandment of an police unit set up to " investigat[e] the sexual abuse of hundreds of young white girls by gangs of Muslim men in West and South Yorkshire" Couldn't possibly have been disbanded cos they found no evidence for it, could it?

Sounds like it could be a fun day out for those West Yorks anti-fascists that get mentioned round here every noe and then.

 

[Groucho]

I'd not heard this.

Bit of a shift for the BNP. Back to marches and street politics? There are great dangers for them. The danger that their membership base is largely passive and won't show. The danger that members of other organisations will show to suport; perhaps waving swastikas and sieg heiling. The danger that they will get a thrashing. The danger that a return to street politics (and resulting street violence) will scare off many of their recent recruits.

(If I were the BNP I wouldn't choose to march on 5 Nov. All those legitimately purchased explosives on the streets.)

 

[Taxamo Welf]

what a turnaround. Wonder what will happen?

 

[belboid]

provocative demo, called with a 'respectable' (??) partner - I imagine that they hope that some local asians kick off and cause a ruck that they can exploit 'muslims and PC lefties protect paedos' type bollocks.

The story is linked from the frontpage of the bnp website.

 

[Pickman's model]

what a turnaround. Wonder what will happen?

probably nothing. i'd be somewhat surprised if they turned out, and i would expect there to be a turnout the size of the recent nf chatham mobilisation if they do.

 

[LLETSA]

This has got 'just another publicity stunt' written all over it.

Probably hoping that Blair's 'politically correct Marxist police state,' will ban it.

 

[blamblam]

Probably hoping that Blair's 'politically correct Marxist police state,' will ban it.

Hmmm or maybe that Muslim kids + lefties attack it, showing them to be anti-white nonce-supporters?

Hmmm could be interesting.

 

[Groucho]

Hmmm or maybe that Muslim kids + lefties attack it, showing them to be anti-white nonce-supporters?
Hmmm could be interesting.

My emphasis in bold on your post above.

I assume that this is just poor wording on your part and that you meant to say that the BNP will attribute such motivation being the lying slime that they are??

 

[Taxamo Welf]

no icepick actually thinks lefties and muslims are towel headed kiddy fiddlers.

 

[Oxpecker]

no icepick actually thinks lefties and muslims are towel headed kiddy fiddlers.

blimey, and I thought icepick was ok

 

[Chuck Wilson]

Blimey! Has anyone given cockers/red hippy/workers power member/solidarnosc a bell so that they can assemble the Workers Defence Squad? I'd better get hold of the verger so they can practice at the Church Hall.

 

[kropotkin]

blimey, and I thought icepick was ok

sarcamacasm mate

 

[oisleep]

perhaps he who can not be mentioned could welcome them in?

 

[Chuck Wilson]

perhaps he who can not be mentioned could welcome them in?

There seems to be a growing list of they that cannot be mentioned.Is it me or has their been a bit of a cull on here recently ?

 

[rebel warrior]

I think that what is going on here is a publicity seeking stunt by the Nazis. They waited until UAF called a national conference against the BNP in London on 5th November - see www.uaf.org.uk - and then thought - aha - while the leadership of the national anti-fascist movement are all busy down in London lets call a 'march' in Keighley.

I think this is another example of how 'clever' at strategy and tactics the BNP leadership are. Not.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

dream on.They don't give a fuck what you do i reckon.

 

[BAKU9]

They waited until UAF called a national conference against the BNP in London on 5th November - see www.uaf.org.uk - and then thought - aha - while the leadership of the national anti-fascist movement are all busy down in London lets call a 'march' in Keighley.

A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!

You keep coming up with the goods don't you webel!

What a melon!

 

[knopf]

I think that what is going on here is a publicity seeking stunt by the Nazis. They waited until UAF called a national conference against the BNP in London on 5th November - see www.uaf.org.uk - and then thought - aha - while the leadership of the national anti-fascist movement are all busy down in London lets call a 'march' in Keighley.

Assuming, of course, that the BNP have as inflated an opinion of the effectiveness of UAF as..... er....... UAF.

 

[red_hippy]

I don't reckon that the fash are too bothered by UAF, but it does seem somewhat of a coincidence that they have called the demo on the same day as the UAF conference. Previously to this the BNP in West Yorkshire had been making a big thing of Griffin and Collet's court date three days earlier on Nov 2nd, and saying that they wanted a big turn out for a protest outside the court.

Aside of whether the BNP purposefully called the march on the same day as the UAF conference, I think its fucking stupid for UAF to push on with holding another pointless conference on vote saving when the BNP are holding what they've said they want to be the biggest demonstration for years.

Contrary to what Pickmans said about expecting a low turnout, I reckon there's likely to be a worringly large turnout. The last time Griffin was in court in Leeds, on a weekday, there was around a hundred/hundred and fifty of them there, plus another sixty odd from the nationalist alliance. This campaign that they've been running in Keighley managed to get them alot of support around the election, and this demo is being held just after Griffin will have been dealt with by the court... I think its likely that alot of people will turn out for it.

 

[james_walsh]

A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!

You keep coming up with the goods don't you webel!

What a melon!

Rw is a funny guy.
Perhas its because its a saterday and 400 years since some mad religious nut bombers got beaten. or (i admit less likely)they heard Class War where haveing a bonfire night in london.

 

[The Black Hand]

This has got 'just another publicity stunt' written all over it.

Probably hoping that Blair's 'politically correct Marxist police state,' will ban it.

well you would say that wouldn't you? Given that your entire political approach is based on them NOT returning to a 'march and grow' strategy. Kinda fuks you up don't it?

 

[Larry O'Hara]

I think that what is going on here is a publicity seeking stunt by the Nazis. They waited until UAF called a national conference against the BNP in London on 5th November - see www.uaf.org.uk - and then thought - aha - while the leadership of the national anti-fascist movement are all busy down in London lets call a 'march' in Keighley.

I think this is another example of how 'clever' at strategy and tactics the BNP leadership are. Not.

1) The BNP are fascist, not Nazi: it is the SWPs stupid refusal to realise this distinction that guarantees failure.

2) If the UAF are really the "leadership" of the national anti-fascist movement, anti-fascism is in more dire state than I thought...

3) Now the UAF hasn't got the Searchlight 'team' whispering sweet nothings into their ear, the grasp of the BNP from the UAF is going to be fascinating (for humorous reasons).

 

[Larry O'Hara]

on november 5th, under the title “ARREST RACIST CHILD RAPISTS” (the caps are there's!), & in conjunction with Mothers Against Paediphiles apparently (are they a front group for the bnp?) complaining about the disbandment of an police unit set up to " investigat[e] the sexual abuse of hundreds of young white girls by gangs of Muslim men in West and South Yorkshire" Couldn't possibly have been disbanded cos they found no evidence for it, could it?
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1) Mothers Against Paedophilia is a BNP front group

2) On the other hand, as illustrated by the Anna Hall C4 'Edge of the City' documentary (shown 26/8/04) there is a genuine abuse issue in the area--while the Metropolitan/PC Left deny it, this only vacates political space for the BNP to move into. That Searchlight have admitted this (after I did ) does not make it any the less true. Those people in Keighley/Bradford who have voted BNP did not do so because they fancy Griffin as the new Goebbels (or Nick Cass as Heydrich) but because serious political concerns have not been addressed by New Labour, whose essential message for the white working class is 'fuck off & die' (soon).

 

[LLETSA]

March and shrink

well you would say that wouldn't you? Given that your entire political approach is based on them NOT returning to a 'march and grow' strategy. Kinda fuks you up don't it?

Well, we shall see. If they do return to it, it means that the period of their breakthrough into the mainstream is coming to an end.

Meanwhile, your 'entire political approach' is based on what exactly?

 

[flimsier]

If they do return to it, it means that the period of their breakthrough into the mainstream is coming to an end.

Why?

 

[The Black Hand]

Well, we shall see. If they do return to it, it means that the period of their breakthrough into the mainstream is coming to an end.

Meanwhile, your 'entire political approach' is based on what exactly?

There is another reading of events. Perhaps during their previous 'march and grow' period they never actually stood any chance of growing given the Tory power structure, so there weren't going to be any receptive communities. Perhaps this has changed with their choice of march location, building on the 4200 votes they got in the general election? We shall see...

Your abc formula anti fascism is quite mechanistic...

 

[LLETSA]

Your abc formula anti fascism is quite mechanistic...

Whereas your xyz formula anti-fascism is quite prosaic.

You never mentioned what your 'entire political approach' is when it's at home.

 

[LLETSA]

Why?

Because.

 

[flimsier]

Why?

While you are online Lletsa, this is a genuine question. I'd like to know why you think that such a scenario would mean the end of their breakthrough into the mainstream?

 

[flimsier]

Because.

Thanks for that. Are you trying to discuss politics or have you no answer.