Billionaires are evil

[BristolEcho]

There are Billionaire cunts, and there are Billionaire cunts.

Obvs, there are those who just inherit wealth and hoard all their money and just spend it on gold toilets and not on charity are proper evil cunts. Then there are those who do well/get lucky in business and then pledge much of their billions to charitable causes. I'm not sure if I'd call them all cunts just by virtue of being a billionaire.

I'm highly suspicious of "good" billionaires that redistribute their wealth to be honest. Often it's for reasons far beyond simply helping people and can result in more power for them. Look at religion both historically and even today and their accumulation of wealth and power while also doing apparent good...

My old boss was a millionaire, had a foundation in his name and the staff that worked for him were in minimum wage, exploited, and worked hard to provide a high level of care for the people they worked with. No matter how much he "gives back" through his fucking vanity project can make up for the way he treated his workers. He'll be in line for knighthood though sure

 

[BristolEcho]

DP.

 

[marty21]

Oops. Yep, sorry marty21 that should have been Marty1. I'll edit the original post.

I am a gigantic dick head tbf

 

[8ball]

I'm highly suspicious of "good" billionaires that redistribute their wealth to be honest. Often it's for reasons far beyond simply helping people and can result in more power for them.

A good example being the Zuckerbergs' foundation which in the end they did not go as far as to call a 'charity'.

 

[ohmyliver]

The fact that Julian Richer is lauded so much speaks volumes about other billionaires

 

[MrSki]

Just came up on my twitter feed & seems apt for this thread.

 

[MickiQ]

If Bezos was a villain in a Bond movie people would dismiss him as an over the top stereotype, Musk is clearly a gifted individual but I get the impression he's just one failure from a breakdown. At the other end of the scale we have Gates who seems to be a decent enough cove.
The issue with Billionaires is not them as individuals but that we live in a world in which private citizens are richer than many countries and own their own space program yet I have seen a dozen homeless in the last couple of hours.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

There are Billionaire cunts, and there are Billionaire cunts.

Obvs, there are those who just inherit wealth and hoard all their money and just spend it on gold toilets and not on charity are proper evil cunts. Then there are those who do well/get lucky in business and then pledge much of their billions to charitable causes. I'm not sure if I'd call them all cunts just by virtue of being a billionaire.

I see the opposite to you. Cunts like the Duke of Westminster, he was just gifted it all. He may well do something with it, probably not. Anyone who 'earns' it, they do so not by doing well or getting lucky, they do it via pure, naked greed and massive exploitation of 1000's, normally 10's of 1000's of people.

 

[SpookyFrank]

A good example being the Zuckerbergs' foundation which in the end they did not go as far as to call a 'charity'.

Foundations in the US especially are usually a combination of tax dodging racket and sock puppet for whatever social engineering/political meddling the benefactors want to get up to. Actual charity rarely enters into it.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I see the opposite to you. Cunts like the Duke of Westminster, he was just gifted it all. He may well do something with it, probably not. Anyone who 'earns' it, they do so not by doing well or getting lucky, they do it via pure, naked greed and massive exploitation of 1000's, normally 10's of 1000's of people.

Last I heard he was busy evicting people so he could make more money. What he could possibly want with more money is beyond comprehension.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The issue with Billionaires is not them as individuals but that we live in a world in which private citizens are richer than many countries and own their own space program yet I have seen a dozen homeless in the last couple of hours.

Simple problem, simple solution:

 

[8ball]

Foundations in the US especially are usually a combination of tax dodging racket and sock puppet for whatever social engineering/political meddling the benefactors want to get up to. Actual charity rarely enters into it.

I can't speak generally (and I suspect more rich people are doing good things than is really reported because they like to keep quiet), but the Zuckerbergs' case immediately struck me as a means to exercising undemocratic power.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Last I heard he was busy evicting people so he could make more money. What he could possibly want with more money is beyond comprehension.

tbf I know nothing about him*, got any links to his cuntishness?


*'cept he magically didn't pay a single fucking penny inheritance tax on that mountain of dough.

 

[SpookyFrank]

tbf I know nothing about him*, got any links to his cuntishness?


*'cept he magically didn't pay a single fucking penny inheritance tax on that mountain of dough.

Apologies for the Mail link. but here:

Duke of Westminster accused of 'social cleansing' over eviction plans

Hugh Grosvenor's property group is planning to demolish Walden House in Belgravia, London, by 2023. The building is leased to Westminster Council and 141 people have been told to move.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Apologies for the Mail link. but here:

Duke of Westminster accused of 'social cleansing' over eviction plans

Hugh Grosvenor's property group is planning to demolish Walden House in Belgravia, London, by 2023. The building is leased to Westminster Council and 141 people have been told to move.

www.dailymail.co.uk

He's like a one-man Lambeth Council.

 

[MickiQ]

The Duke of Westminster is the ultimate argument for a 100% inheritance tax he is simply the current holder of a fortune that has been passed down a dozen generations without most of them doing shit for it

 

[flypanam]

, Musk is clearly a gifted individual but I get the impression he's just one failure from a breakdown.

Seriously how is Musk a gifted individual? He seems to be one lucky investor. He's unlikely to have done all the engineering himself or the programming. I don't know much about him other than he seems he like suffers from slippy dick syndrome and I can't truthfully be arsed to read a fawning wiki.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Musk is pioneering electric cars, Space X - Bezos is trying to take over the retail world and exploits all his workers in a hunger games type work environment.

I’ll take Musk over Bezos thanks.

While I would consign both of them to the fourth circle of hell if I could, I have to point out that the technical achievements of Amazon are overlooked in importance. They pioneered a lot of technology involved in moving materials around from place to place. Its just not as flashes as Musk's technology. As a librarian in training, I recognize some of the cataloging of items that's going on at amazing speed and efficiency. They're also pouring a lot of money into robotics and use many of them in their warehouses. Someone who works for a living should not see most of this as a good thing for them, however. I'm kinda with John Zerzan on this. Technology tends to widen the gap between the rich and poor. Its becomes a question of either how do we offset that (taxes, etc), or do we junk it all and go live in the woods as he suggests.

 

[8ball]

They're also pouring a lot of money into robotics and use many of them in their warehouses. Someone who works for a living should see most of this as a good thing for them, however.

Well, quite. Someone is going to have to clean and service the robots.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Well, quite. Someone is going to have to clean and service the robots.

I meant "should not." (I went back back and edited that.) Some of the technology they're working on is robots that clean and service themselves. Humans are obsolete. We just don't know it yet.

 

[Archimage]

I just wonder how many people would want to be billionaires? I wouldn't want to be so rich I was scared to walk down the street without a ton of bodyguards.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

service themselves.

fnar

 

[8ball]

I just wonder how many people would want to be billionaires? I wouldn't want to be so rich I was scared to walk down the street without a ton of bodyguards.

I expect some of them can walk about quite happily because no one knows who they are.

Personally I’d be content with a few hundred million. My needs are modest.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

fnar

LOL. I'm rally failing my communications roll this morning.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I expect some of them can walk about quite happily because no one knows who they are.

Personally I’d be content with a few hundred million. My needs are modest.

Mine are as well. I would like to spend a couple of years living in National Park accommodations. I think I tallied that up to around $300,000 a year. It would be $110,000 for lodging. The other would go to travel, food, and fun stuff.

 

[8ball]

Wow, that's kind of pricey.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Wow, that's kind of pricey.

I'm figuring that at $300 per night. Many are cheaper than that. Some are more. Its still chump change in comparison to billionaire-level wealth.

 

[8ball]

I'm figuring that at $300 per night. Many are cheaper than that. Some are more.

Yeah, that's where I put it.
Urban's favourite psychologist Jordan Peterson guessed at $150 million as the most a person could semi-sensibly spend in a lifetime.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Yeah, that's where I put it.
Urban's favourite psychologist Jordan Peterson guessed at $150 million as the most a person could semi-sensibly spend in a lifetime.

I'm sure I could get along on a paltry $20 mil. I might have to budget a little though.

 

[MickiQ]

I just wonder how many people would want to be billionaires? I wouldn't want to be so rich I was scared to walk down the street without a ton of bodyguards.

Most of them probably can walk down the streets without any of them be recognised
The only one I would be sure of recognising is Branson who insists on flaunting his mug at all opportunities