Former Billericay owner Glenn Tamplin takes over Romford FC
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Glenn Tamplin
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Manager of Billericay Town. helps those less fortunate and building a community. BTFC for life. Selfless for Life.
You just know this ‘for life’ thing is a load of bollocks. Life in regards to BTFC means to the end of next season at best.
Glenn Tamplin
@glenntamplin
Manager of Billericay Town. helps those less fortunate and building a community. BTFC for life. Selfless for Life.
You just know this ‘for life’ thing is a load of bollocks. Life in regards to BTFC means to the end of next season at best.
bringbackelmo
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Their match tonight is off as well
DonkeyAssessor
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I am relieved we got the game at Billericay out of the way last week, before Glenn got any ideas from this.
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Jamie Wyatt
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They are playing Tomorrow (Cup final), Thursday (Tonbridge away), Saturday (Hendon away), next Monday (Wingate away) and Wednesday (Harrow home)
pompeydunc
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Three tough away games under normal circumstances. Coming back to back, then they deserve to win league if they pick up maximum points. A big ask.
Lucy Fur
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Oi Oi! This is Urban, there's no room for such sporting magnanimity round 'ere. ;-)
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I'd be pleased with a Billericay form book that read L L L L L by next Wednesday, so we can enjoy a normal battle for the top slot.
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Hello all, und Grüezi.
Long-time Lurker here.
I'm delighted to help contribute to this "hell thread", as was earlier put by a user whose handle escapes me at this point.
Following allegations made, which were made to Queensway in Oct. / Nov. 2017, Mr Tamplin has confirmed [in about the most Tamplin way imaginable] that he is under Tax Investigation - i.e. on Radio, in a public forum.
Relevant section to be heard at 4m 18s
Linky :
Billericay Town: Glenn Tamplin's season update - Phoenix FM
Transcribed, slightly difficult to hear owing to vernacular speech patterns, &c. :
"One thing that's happened with all this media attention has, has made things difficult with erm, tax inquiries and stuff like that which is all fine 'cos everything I do is 100% legitimate, but all of a sudden you have to get things like figures and facts together which you wouldn't normally have to do, erm and then all of a sudden because, er, the media attention...[further charidee nonsense &c, whilst realising as he talks that he shouldn't have just put that last bit out into the public realm, followed by a change of tack and a change of subject]"
Takeaways :
1. You have to keep "figures & facts" for 6 years. It is 100% something you would "normally have to do"
2. The "media attention" was 100% avoidable. It didn't have to be Zippo's Show [I know that you'll be reading this Glenn] and it's been 100% brought on by the egotistical approach shown thus far.
3. Don't talk about your tax affairs in public - it makes things much, much worse [and now it's in that public forum, speculation on the subject has a Statutory Defence]
vide :
Defamation Act 2013
Danke Vielmal, meinem Essex freunde.
[edited for punctuation and link to UKPGA 2013 ch26 added for the reassurance of Moderators]
Long-time Lurker here.
I'm delighted to help contribute to this "hell thread", as was earlier put by a user whose handle escapes me at this point.
Following allegations made, which were made to Queensway in Oct. / Nov. 2017, Mr Tamplin has confirmed [in about the most Tamplin way imaginable] that he is under Tax Investigation - i.e. on Radio, in a public forum.
Relevant section to be heard at 4m 18s
Linky :
Billericay Town: Glenn Tamplin's season update - Phoenix FM
Transcribed, slightly difficult to hear owing to vernacular speech patterns, &c. :
"One thing that's happened with all this media attention has, has made things difficult with erm, tax inquiries and stuff like that which is all fine 'cos everything I do is 100% legitimate, but all of a sudden you have to get things like figures and facts together which you wouldn't normally have to do, erm and then all of a sudden because, er, the media attention...[further charidee nonsense &c, whilst realising as he talks that he shouldn't have just put that last bit out into the public realm, followed by a change of tack and a change of subject]"
Takeaways :
1. You have to keep "figures & facts" for 6 years. It is 100% something you would "normally have to do"
2. The "media attention" was 100% avoidable. It didn't have to be Zippo's Show [I know that you'll be reading this Glenn] and it's been 100% brought on by the egotistical approach shown thus far.
3. Don't talk about your tax affairs in public - it makes things much, much worse [and now it's in that public forum, speculation on the subject has a Statutory Defence]
vide :
Defamation Act 2013
Danke Vielmal, meinem Essex freunde.
[edited for punctuation and link to UKPGA 2013 ch26 added for the reassurance of Moderators]
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DonkeyAssessor
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Unfortunately I fear that hmrc may well also be knocking on meadow's door for our contributions very soon, and such may well be the subject of the next dialogue they initiate. but in the interim I hope their mission in Essex is rewarded.
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Why unfortunate?
They should be registered for VAT, either as an individual entity [e.g. Dulwich Hamlet Licenses Ltd] or as a Group Undertaking. That's their problem, as is collection of VAT where due.
They would be able to claim for Relief, given that the alleged amounts have not been paid. In my personal & professional opinion, they are not due. Fabricated Debts will be given such a Construction by the Court, if properly Argued.
And, for the benefit of any Meadow Staffers that may see this :
In my Professional Opinion, there is no Debt. Certainly, no Proven debt which falls outwith the control of Closely-Held Companies & which were responsible for such collection. There is well-settled Law upon that point.
In my honestly-held Personal Opinion, it is a Sham Arrangement for the purposes of showing the Club to be non-viable and with the ultimate aim of destroying the Club. Especially given the UKTM Applications for Registration.
[you'll kindly note that I rely upon Statutory Defences, for such statements, per post #1579]
Those Staffers know who I am. Pick up the phone - you have my number.
You also know what it'll cost you, pro stunde.
Anyway, this is a thread about BTFC and the circus show that a venerable and ancient Club has been allowed to become. Back on topic, shall we go?
They should be registered for VAT, either as an individual entity [e.g. Dulwich Hamlet Licenses Ltd] or as a Group Undertaking. That's their problem, as is collection of VAT where due.
They would be able to claim for Relief, given that the alleged amounts have not been paid. In my personal & professional opinion, they are not due. Fabricated Debts will be given such a Construction by the Court, if properly Argued.
And, for the benefit of any Meadow Staffers that may see this :
In my Professional Opinion, there is no Debt. Certainly, no Proven debt which falls outwith the control of Closely-Held Companies & which were responsible for such collection. There is well-settled Law upon that point.
In my honestly-held Personal Opinion, it is a Sham Arrangement for the purposes of showing the Club to be non-viable and with the ultimate aim of destroying the Club. Especially given the UKTM Applications for Registration.
[you'll kindly note that I rely upon Statutory Defences, for such statements, per post #1579]
Those Staffers know who I am. Pick up the phone - you have my number.
You also know what it'll cost you, pro stunde.
Anyway, this is a thread about BTFC and the circus show that a venerable and ancient Club has been allowed to become. Back on topic, shall we go?
DonkeyAssessor
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Because I cant private message you, I need to reply here.
Unfortunate because I doubt meadow will have paid money to hmrc that has has taken from our club. and as such will probably added to perceived debt.
Over and out
Unfortunate because I doubt meadow will have paid money to hmrc that has has taken from our club. and as such will probably added to perceived debt.
Over and out
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Don't worry about that, it's their problem and certainly not DHFC's.
It wouldn't be 'added' to any alleged debts.
VAT law is clear upon that point - it is the duty of the Collector, excepting if and only when VAT Relief is applied for by them against any allegedly unpaid amounts.
Once paid to the Collector, it's the Collector's responsibility.
If they were to open the VAT can of worms, it wouldn't go down very well for them - I can assure you upon that point.
If it IS the case that they haven't paid across VAT amounts which have been collected, then a direct call will go in at both Queensway and Edinburgh - notwithstanding State DAs in DE & NY. Shit will hit multiple fans.
+ soz, I don't do DMs or Private Messages - I'd rather that any reassurances I can offer be in public, as I can completely understand the worry felt by DHFC supporters.
It wouldn't be 'added' to any alleged debts.
VAT law is clear upon that point - it is the duty of the Collector, excepting if and only when VAT Relief is applied for by them against any allegedly unpaid amounts.
Once paid to the Collector, it's the Collector's responsibility.
If they were to open the VAT can of worms, it wouldn't go down very well for them - I can assure you upon that point.
If it IS the case that they haven't paid across VAT amounts which have been collected, then a direct call will go in at both Queensway and Edinburgh - notwithstanding State DAs in DE & NY. Shit will hit multiple fans.
+ soz, I don't do DMs or Private Messages - I'd rather that any reassurances I can offer be in public, as I can completely understand the worry felt by DHFC supporters.
We've got something like 17 games to play in 39 days I think. It's definitely going to require a massive effort from the squad, especially with the way performances have been recently.
DonkeyAssessor
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Especially when their wages are with held !
DonkeyAssessor
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This season must have been a hell of a rollercoaster ride for you already with your fa trophy wins. and s bit if a way to go yet too. interesting days.
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Blimey what a fixture list, imagine the league clubs with that lot
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In the interests of fairness, fair play on winning the Essex Senior Cup.
Although, it is ONLY a County Cup [make sure both of those vowels are in there] and the outlay of £1.5m [Glenn's words] to win that trophy seems a little excessive.
There's only one County Senior Cup, the Sheffield Challenge Cup, which matters and that's because it's the 5th oldest football trophy in the world. It's the 2nd oldest trophy that can be competed for in an open tournament [East of Scotland Shield is just a Challenge Match, these days] and is unique in that every winner is inscribed on the trophy itself, rather than the plinth or a silver band around the plinth.
Essex Senior Cup [1884] isn't even in the top 30 of the list of oldest trophies, from memory.
That list:
1. Youdan Cup [1867, owned by Hallam FC and no longer competed]
2. Cromwell Cup [1868, owned by The Wednesday and no longer competed]
n/a. the original FA Cup [1871, stolen whilst on Aston Villa's watch and never recovered]
3. Scottish Cup [1873, oldest trophy which can be won]
4. East of Scotland Shield [1875, Hibs v Hearts these days]
5. Sheffield Challenge Cup [1876, now called the Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Cup]
6. Birmingham Senior Cup [1876, original trophy now owned by AVFC and played for as the AV Charity Cup - current winners' trophy is not the 1876 original]
Edit : The 1876 Sheffield Cup Final was before the Birmingham match and the cup itself was completed before Birmingham's, hence appearing before it on the above list.
Although, it is ONLY a County Cup [make sure both of those vowels are in there] and the outlay of £1.5m [Glenn's words] to win that trophy seems a little excessive.
There's only one County Senior Cup, the Sheffield Challenge Cup, which matters and that's because it's the 5th oldest football trophy in the world. It's the 2nd oldest trophy that can be competed for in an open tournament [East of Scotland Shield is just a Challenge Match, these days] and is unique in that every winner is inscribed on the trophy itself, rather than the plinth or a silver band around the plinth.
Essex Senior Cup [1884] isn't even in the top 30 of the list of oldest trophies, from memory.
That list:
1. Youdan Cup [1867, owned by Hallam FC and no longer competed]
2. Cromwell Cup [1868, owned by The Wednesday and no longer competed]
n/a. the original FA Cup [1871, stolen whilst on Aston Villa's watch and never recovered]
3. Scottish Cup [1873, oldest trophy which can be won]
4. East of Scotland Shield [1875, Hibs v Hearts these days]
5. Sheffield Challenge Cup [1876, now called the Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior Cup]
6. Birmingham Senior Cup [1876, original trophy now owned by AVFC and played for as the AV Charity Cup - current winners' trophy is not the 1876 original]
Edit : The 1876 Sheffield Cup Final was before the Birmingham match and the cup itself was completed before Birmingham's, hence appearing before it on the above list.
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Radical-Cliff
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Not meadows but Nick McCormack. As Mr McCormack has been signing off the accounts and not meadows.
Operated by Hadley/Meadows but on Paper Mr McCormack.
It appears to be set up in a way the operators can be blameless.
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Not quite.
Mr McCormack is responsible for signing off on DHFC Ltd collecting VAT on items which attract that tax. This includes Admission, beer, &c.
As we know, those are only passed on to DHFC Ltd after Meadow's deductions which, effectively, would reduce the VAT amount to be collected. That would be contingent upon the 'Written Arrangements' and the actual arrangements as enacted by them on the ground.
So the point is more nuanced than perhaps you would have it.
In any case, the deductions would be allowable even though the Meadow companies intend to interpose themselves between incoming revenue and DHFC.
On the point of VAT on the Rental of Champion Hill, Meadow are responsible for collecting VAT and paying it to HMRC. I took the Rental of Champion Hill to be what was being referred to earlier by DonkeyAssessor and that was the context of my response on that particular point.
Irrespective, even if there were to be a purported threat of an Action on the part of HMRC to collect allegedly missing VAT amounts then it would be circa 2 years for that Action to fully play out.
To be frank, and in my honestly-held Professional Opinion, the arrangements which were imposed upon DHFC smack of a classic MITC fraud. For the avoidance of doubt, I say this because I have successfully both defended and alleged the same in a paid professional capacity.
Bottom line, don't worry - there are watching eyes on this one who have the Club's back.
And none of this concerns 'Ricay...
Mr McCormack is responsible for signing off on DHFC Ltd collecting VAT on items which attract that tax. This includes Admission, beer, &c.
As we know, those are only passed on to DHFC Ltd after Meadow's deductions which, effectively, would reduce the VAT amount to be collected. That would be contingent upon the 'Written Arrangements' and the actual arrangements as enacted by them on the ground.
So the point is more nuanced than perhaps you would have it.
In any case, the deductions would be allowable even though the Meadow companies intend to interpose themselves between incoming revenue and DHFC.
On the point of VAT on the Rental of Champion Hill, Meadow are responsible for collecting VAT and paying it to HMRC. I took the Rental of Champion Hill to be what was being referred to earlier by DonkeyAssessor and that was the context of my response on that particular point.
Irrespective, even if there were to be a purported threat of an Action on the part of HMRC to collect allegedly missing VAT amounts then it would be circa 2 years for that Action to fully play out.
To be frank, and in my honestly-held Professional Opinion, the arrangements which were imposed upon DHFC smack of a classic MITC fraud. For the avoidance of doubt, I say this because I have successfully both defended and alleged the same in a paid professional capacity.
Bottom line, don't worry - there are watching eyes on this one who have the Club's back.
And none of this concerns 'Ricay...
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