Bill and Melinda Gates announce one of the biggest charitable donations in history
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Y_I_Otter
Dangerous Terroirist
This is wonderful news! What steps is the inventor taking to ensure this miracle product is as widely available as possible to those in the developing world who so obviously need it?
Or do they also have to pony up for a book (assuming they're literate) or a DVD (assuming they have access to a computer)?
Why not? As ymu is always keen to point out, most procedures adopted by the NHS have not undergone clinical trials.
What, you mean besides visiting the countries himself, training doctors there, and making the instructions on how to prepare and use it public information both on the internet and wherever he goes? I don't know.
rikwakefield
Born to be Mild
Bill Gates is pretty fucking cool.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
So then why doe he have to bother with them then?
You are stitching yourself up in your own bollocks.
It's very simple. Clinical trials are the highest standard of proof for a remedy. So although extremely expensive, they are very desirable.
However, a remedy will not work because it passes a clinical trial. It will pass the clinical trial because it works. Do you understand?
sleaterkinney
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hiraethified
Do you believe his 'miracle' cure is the answer to AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB and most cancers as he claims? A simple YES/NO answer will suffice.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Yes, but you said he needed the money for it to pass the clinical trial and then said it did not have to pass the clinical trial to be used. Only that it is 'desirable' to pass the clinical trial. Do YOU understand.
Y_I_Otter
Dangerous Terroirist
Splendid. What percentage of people previously stricken with malaria, AIDS and the three biggie heps are now completely disease-free?
Let's get real now: if this stuff did what it's supposed to have, somebody, somewhere would have taken notice. Why is all the info available about this miracle cure on Youtube and dodgy internet backwaters? Why not in The Lancet?
Oh wait... it's all about Big Pharma keeping people with serious diseases on the hook and bilking them out of millions. Right...
mauvais
on reddit or something
I've read some truly ridiculous things on here but this really is idiocy of the second highest order. The only way it could be worse is if he was trying to sell this toss to actual AIDS patients - but lacking the nouse to do so, he's just repeating some other chump's fact free fantasy. You should be ashamed.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
You stupid, stupid twat.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Which funnily enough, is where the trail ends up when you start looking at the ownership of most of the big 'alternative medcine' companies too.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Impressive stuff.
Shame his foundation also invests in some of the worst corporations on the planet then isn't it? Eni, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp Total.
Dark cloud over good works of Gates Foundation
Ebocha, Nigeria — JUSTICE Eta, 14 months old, held out his tiny thumb.
An ink spot certified that he had been immunized against polio and measles, thanks to a vaccination drive supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
But polio is not the only threat Justice faces. Almost since birth, he has had respiratory trouble. His neighbors call it "the cough." People blame fumes and soot spewing from flames that tower 300 feet into the air over a nearby oil plant. It is owned by the Italian petroleum giant Eni, whose investors include the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
Justice squirmed in his mother's arms. His face was beaded with sweat caused either by illness or by heat from the flames that illuminate Ebocha day and night. Ebocha means "city of lights."
The makeshift clinic at a church where Justice Eta was vaccinated and the flares spewing over Ebocha represent a head-on conflict for the Gates Foundation. In a contradiction between its grants and its endowment holdings, a Times investigation has found, the foundation reaps vast financial gains every year from investments that contravene its good works.
In Ebocha, where Justice lives, Dr. Elekwachi Okey, a local physician, says hundreds of flares at oil plants in the Niger Delta have caused an epidemic of bronchitis in adults, and asthma and blurred vision in children. No definitive studies have documented the health effects, but many of the 250 toxic chemicals in the fumes and soot have long been linked to respiratory disease and cancer.
"We're all smokers here," Okey said, "but not with cigarettes."
The oil plants in the region surrounding Ebocha find it cheaper to burn nearly 1 billion cubic feet of gas each day and contribute to global warming than to sell it. They deny the flaring causes sickness. Under pressure from activists, however, Nigeria's high court set a deadline to end flaring by May 2007. The gases would be injected back underground, or trucked and piped out for sale. But authorities expect the flares to burn for years beyond the deadline.
The Gates Foundation has poured $218 million into polio and measles immunization and research worldwide, including in the Niger Delta. At the same time that the foundation is funding inoculations to protect health, The Times found, it has invested $423 million in Eni, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp. and Total of France -- the companies responsible for most of the flares blanketing the delta with pollution, beyond anything permitted in the United States or Europe.
Shame his foundation also invests in some of the worst corporations on the planet then isn't it? Eni, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp Total.
Dark cloud over good works of Gates Foundation
Ebocha, Nigeria — JUSTICE Eta, 14 months old, held out his tiny thumb.
An ink spot certified that he had been immunized against polio and measles, thanks to a vaccination drive supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
But polio is not the only threat Justice faces. Almost since birth, he has had respiratory trouble. His neighbors call it "the cough." People blame fumes and soot spewing from flames that tower 300 feet into the air over a nearby oil plant. It is owned by the Italian petroleum giant Eni, whose investors include the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
Justice squirmed in his mother's arms. His face was beaded with sweat caused either by illness or by heat from the flames that illuminate Ebocha day and night. Ebocha means "city of lights."
The makeshift clinic at a church where Justice Eta was vaccinated and the flares spewing over Ebocha represent a head-on conflict for the Gates Foundation. In a contradiction between its grants and its endowment holdings, a Times investigation has found, the foundation reaps vast financial gains every year from investments that contravene its good works.
In Ebocha, where Justice lives, Dr. Elekwachi Okey, a local physician, says hundreds of flares at oil plants in the Niger Delta have caused an epidemic of bronchitis in adults, and asthma and blurred vision in children. No definitive studies have documented the health effects, but many of the 250 toxic chemicals in the fumes and soot have long been linked to respiratory disease and cancer.
"We're all smokers here," Okey said, "but not with cigarettes."
The oil plants in the region surrounding Ebocha find it cheaper to burn nearly 1 billion cubic feet of gas each day and contribute to global warming than to sell it. They deny the flaring causes sickness. Under pressure from activists, however, Nigeria's high court set a deadline to end flaring by May 2007. The gases would be injected back underground, or trucked and piped out for sale. But authorities expect the flares to burn for years beyond the deadline.
The Gates Foundation has poured $218 million into polio and measles immunization and research worldwide, including in the Niger Delta. At the same time that the foundation is funding inoculations to protect health, The Times found, it has invested $423 million in Eni, Royal Dutch Shell, Exxon Mobil Corp., Chevron Corp. and Total of France -- the companies responsible for most of the flares blanketing the delta with pollution, beyond anything permitted in the United States or Europe.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Trials of the HIV drug Tenofovir scrapped in Cambodia and Cameroon after objections by sex workers to the unethical nature of the trials.
CAMBODIA: Sex workers fight proposed Tenofovir HIV drug trial
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/620/35128
the Gates Foundation is being used as a cover for big pharmaceutical companies to use poor women as guinea pigs in drugs trials that would never be allowed in this country. Trials that will make big profits for pharmaceutical corporation Gilead Sciences.
Any guesses who are funding the trials? Yes, the Gates Foundation.
sex workers objected to the unethical nature of the research and the refusal to include long term medical treatment for any potential side effects.
Sex workers speak on Tenofovir here
http://blip.tv/file/1418090
CAMBODIA: Sex workers fight proposed Tenofovir HIV drug trial
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2005/620/35128
the Gates Foundation is being used as a cover for big pharmaceutical companies to use poor women as guinea pigs in drugs trials that would never be allowed in this country. Trials that will make big profits for pharmaceutical corporation Gilead Sciences.
Any guesses who are funding the trials? Yes, the Gates Foundation.
sex workers objected to the unethical nature of the research and the refusal to include long term medical treatment for any potential side effects.
Sex workers speak on Tenofovir here
http://blip.tv/file/1418090
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hiraethified
The man's a genius!
His iPad review is great: "no one likes big things"...."where are you going to put it?"..."Apple are really stupid."
http://www.youtube.com/user/eternalduty#p/a/u/2/iOrNilvS2X8
dylans
overlord of all acorns
And when the likes of Gilead have finished testing the new drugs on the poorest people in the world. What do the participants get?
Were the participants in Cambodia offered medical insurance by the Gates foundation? No
Were they offered lifelong medical care for potential side effects? NO. They were offered insurance for 2 years.
Were they offered free Tenofovir if it proved successful? NO. They were offered $3.00 per month to buy aspirins.
Were they offered free anti retrovirals if Tenofivir is unsuccessful? No
Gilead take their new medicine, abandon Cambodia and SELL IT BACK TO THEM for profit.
You muppets. Bill Gates isnt the new messiah. He's a front for the fucking drug companies to make a packet.
and you don't need to be a conspiriloon like Jazz to see that
This is what Cambodian sex workers had to say about Bill Gates
Were the participants in Cambodia offered medical insurance by the Gates foundation? No
Were they offered lifelong medical care for potential side effects? NO. They were offered insurance for 2 years.
Were they offered free Tenofovir if it proved successful? NO. They were offered $3.00 per month to buy aspirins.
Were they offered free anti retrovirals if Tenofivir is unsuccessful? No
Gilead take their new medicine, abandon Cambodia and SELL IT BACK TO THEM for profit.
You muppets. Bill Gates isnt the new messiah. He's a front for the fucking drug companies to make a packet.
and you don't need to be a conspiriloon like Jazz to see that
This is what Cambodian sex workers had to say about Bill Gates
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
The man's a genius!
His iPad review is great: "no one likes big things"...."where are you going to put it?"..."Apple are really stupid."
http://www.youtube.com/user/eternalduty#p/a/u/2/iOrNilvS2X8
omg that guy is a one hell of a nut job!
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hiraethified
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Why don't you watch to WNU video on Tenofovir and actually respond to my posts?
kained&able
Here for the football.
I applaud Bill Gates for spending so much of his own money and from my understanding this wont be the last massively silly donation he makes during or shortly after his life.
You do however have to wonder how the fuck can someone afford to give so much away in the first place, that is an insane amount of money especially when you consider how big a debt the US government is in, he needs taxing the absolute shite out of!!!!
dave
You do however have to wonder how the fuck can someone afford to give so much away in the first place, that is an insane amount of money especially when you consider how big a debt the US government is in, he needs taxing the absolute shite out of!!!!
dave
Because it convinces you you are handing over cash for a stable operating system
Gates operated with in a system, played it very well. Accumulated a great deal of wealthy and so far as I know did not physicaly harm anyone. Other than some of his software products being used for weapons systems (much to the horror of the IT comunity who would ironicaly prefer the less capitalist systems like variants of Unix as they are more stable) there are people living on my street who have inflicted more human harm than he has.
From a utilitarian perspective he has fucked over a few other capitalist software companies and has spend huge amounts of wealth on improving the lot of the worst of in the world; Id say he is coming out well ahead.
You can complain about the system he has exploited so expertly but I am swallowing 20 years of IT geek tribalism and saying well done that man.
Compared with almost every other mega-rich tycoon, he's not so bad.
He's not employing sweated labour like, say, big-brand clothes companies.
He's not exploiting the natural resources of poor countries.
He didn't cut down rainforests to plant fields of Windows Vista trees (AFAIK).
No-one ever HAD to buy what he was selling.
By definition, anyone who had cause to buy what he was selling, was, on a global scale, pretty well off (they could afford their own computer!).
Giles..
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
This is Bill Gates' version of charity:
http://www.consumerloanwire.com/new...e-access-to-savings-and-loans-in-rural-africa
Development funds that will be swallowed up in the further financialisation of Ghana and Malawi - tying farmers further into dependency, which will benefit the people of private bodies like Opportunity International.
By any reckoning, Bill Gates is an anti-human figure.
http://www.consumerloanwire.com/new...e-access-to-savings-and-loans-in-rural-africa
Development funds that will be swallowed up in the further financialisation of Ghana and Malawi - tying farmers further into dependency, which will benefit the people of private bodies like Opportunity International.
By any reckoning, Bill Gates is an anti-human figure.
You're the ridiculous one. It's the 'loan' bit that matters. He is 'donating' them access to more debt (which they are too poor to acquire otherwise). They need less debt, not more of it.
The devil dresses like the angel.
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hiraethified
So you believe him to be "anti human" too - perhaps like one of the lizard people your lunatic pal David Icke is always gibbering on about?
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