Best area to move to in Bristol?

[Cpatain Rbubish]

She (my lodger) can pay £800 per month but the letting agents won't even take her on cos she is only on £ 20 k

Hey KDO , that's fucking rough. An all too familiar story, getting like that in more and more places Peeps on basic or national average wages can't afford to rent in the places (reasonable places, not like Kensington and Chelsea) they want or need to.

 

[teccuk]

The Weston commute isn't that bad I realised having gone down recently for the Banksy gig. 30 minutes and £6.60 return fare via train.

Aye but its £10 + in the peak.

Stop any houses being built? They seem to lose every battle - 21 000 new houses have just been finally agreed/imposed across North somerset by brendan Lewis, plus a further 5000 in weston alone through the town being transferred to 'housing zone' status. All done top down of course.

Yeah because they didn't get there act together and actually plan where they should go.

NSC could of dealt with most if their housing in one fowl swoop if they admitted that the land between the a370 and a38 was the logical place to build. It's close enough to city centre to allow most to cycle, the 'metrobus' thing goes right through it and its low grade golf course, old hospital and landfill. Hardly pristine country side.

But its 'green belt' and NSC are scared of the rich in Long Ashton. So sod the proles and their need for housing in Bristol.

Scattered suburban shite is what you get unless you plan.

 

[BlackArab]

Aye but its £10 + in the peak.



Yeah because they didn't get there act together and actually plan where they should go.

NSC could of dealt with most if their housing in one fowl swoop if they admitted that the land between the a370 and a38 was the logical place to build. It's close enough to city centre to allow most to cycle, the 'metrobus' thing goes right through it and its low grade golf course, old hospital and landfill. Hardly pristine country side.

But its 'green belt' and NSC are scared of the rich in Long Ashton. So sod the proles and their need for housing in Bristol.

Scattered suburban shite is what you get unless you plan.

and meanwhile in Bristol we have brownfield sites lying derelict like the chocolate factory in Easton, Dove Lane, St Pauls and the old Brooks factory in St Werbs, finally looking like we might see something done with the Carriageworks. The trouble with all the N. Somerset/S.Glos development is that it creates hellish traffic problems as most will still work in Bristol and commute by car. I used to work in Bradley Stoke and live in Eastville, used to be quicker cycling to work than driving or public transport due to the traffic. Was even worse if there had been any traffic accidents on the M4/M5 interchange or nearby major roads as it could disruption to a wide area of North Bristol.

 

[butchersapron]

Aye but its £10 + in the peak.



Yeah because they didn't get there act together and actually plan where they should go.

NSC could of dealt with most if their housing in one fowl swoop if they admitted that the land between the a370 and a38 was the logical place to build. It's close enough to city centre to allow most to cycle, the 'metrobus' thing goes right through it and its low grade golf course, old hospital and landfill. Hardly pristine country side.

But its 'green belt' and NSC are scared of the rich in Long Ashton. So sod the proles and their need for housing in Bristol.

Scattered suburban shite is what you get unless you plan.

No, the opposition comes from there being brownfield sites within the proposed areas that can do it - and without the opportunistic profit seeking light regulation they get in green field areas (most now already bought up by speculators in advance of this move by Lewis).

The people getting slagged off here are people who want HA etc housing built on brownfield sites, not hippies or poshoes. Is there some bristol snobbishness that thinks if you got south of the city it's either hippies or posh people - us normals live here too! Looking at you BA!

 

[BlackArab]

Hey KDO , that's fucking rough. An all too familiar story, getting like that in more and more places Peeps on basic or national average wages can't afford to rent in the places (reasonable places, not like Kensington and Chelsea) they want or need to.

I was extremely lucky to move into my flat in Montpelier just before Stokes Croft took off and the rents started rising. Glad I'm settled as I couldn't afford to move and very fortunate as I deal with my landlord only and no agents. The people above aren't so lucky as previous shitty tenants have made the landlord start using agency for that property.

 

[butchersapron]

Just burn st werburghs down and start again frankly.

 

[BlackArab]

No, the opposition comes from there being brownfield sites within the proposed areas that can do it - and without the opportunistic profit seeking light regulation they get in green field areas (most now already bought up by speculators in advance of this move by Lewis).

The people getting slagged off here are people who want HA etc housing built on brownfield sites, not hippies or poshoes. Is there some bristol snobbishness that thinks if you got south of the city it's either hippies or posh people - us normals live here too! Looking at you BA!

I'd love to see social housing being prioritised for Bristol's brownfield site and not 'artspace' or eco homes as the local poshoes and hippies usually suggest. Boiling Wells Lane in the Werbs is gentrification at it's worst for me. Funny enough that sort of development isn't opposed...

I have lived in the south close enough to hear Ashton Gate roar which for a Gashead was pretty painful at times. I witnessed the beginnings of it's gentrification when the Tobacco Factory opened and how nobody lives in Bedminster anymore as it's either Ashton or Southville dahlings! I'm well aware there are still many of the original wc folk still present, it was like the Matrix though with two separate worlds in the same space and rarely mixing.

 

[BlackArab]

Just burn st werburghs down and start again frankly.

I still remember it as a kid being multi-ethnic largely wc area now it's full of Green Capitalists.

 

[butchersapron]

I'd love to see social housing being prioritised for Bristol's brownfield site and not 'artspace' or eco homes as the local poshoes and hippies usually suggest. Boiling Wells Lane in the Werbs is gentrification at it's worst for me. Funny enough that sort of development isn't opposed...

I have lived in the south close enough to hear Ashton Gate roar which for a Gashead was pretty painful at times. I witnessed the beginnings of it's gentrification when the Tobacco Factory opened and how nobody lives in Bedminster anymore as it's either Ashton or Southville dahlings! I'm well aware there are still many of the original wc folk still present, it was like the Matrix though with two separate worlds in the same space and rarely mixing.

I literally meant south of the city mate - weston, yatton, conguesbury - all thsese 21 00 new homes on greenfield sites rather than the brownfield they can work on rather than greenfield profiteering.

 

[butchersapron]

I still remember it as a kid being multi-ethnic largely wc area now it's full of Green Capitalists.

Makes me sick just to get the bus through there.

 

[BlackArab]

I literally meant south of the city mate - weston, yatton, conguesbury - all thsese 21 00 new homes on greenfield sites rather than the brownfield they can work on rather than greenfield profiteering.

Ah, my mistake. I am familiar with the Bourneville Estate and many others like it in Somerset from my days as doing door-to-door sales so under no misconceptions. I have to admit it was a surprise to find places like this as I had been conditioned by society and the media to think that I had grown up in the worst area in the SW being from St Pauls. There was one in Bridgwater that we only worked on Fridays due to most people not owning a cheque book and card. Another in Taunton that eventually only I worked as no one else would go in there due to being intimidated.

 

[butchersapron]

Ah, my mistake. I am familiar with the Bourneville Estate and many others like it in Somerset from my days as doing door-to-door sales so under no misconceptions. I have to admit it was a surprise to find places like this as I had been conditioned by society and the media to think that I had grown up in the worst area in the SW being from St Pauls. There was one in Bridgwater that we only worked on Fridays due to most people not owning a cheque book and card. Another in Taunton that eventually only I worked as no one else would go in there due to being intimidated.

I'm a Bournville boy (we drop the e like bridgwater) - does my head in to see people think once you're out of the city it's all phill coliins mansion

Back to the housing though, they can easily do the 21 000 houses on brownfield - so what may appear as opposition to new houses is opposition to a form of rapacious new housing.

 

[butchersapron]

Ah, my mistake. I am familiar with the Bourneville Estate and many others like it in Somerset from my days as doing door-to-door sales so under no misconceptions. I have to admit it was a surprise to find places like this as I had been conditioned by society and the media to think that I had grown up in the worst area in the SW being from St Pauls. There was one in Bridgwater that we only worked on Fridays due to most people not owning a cheque book and card. Another in Taunton that eventually only I worked as no one else would go in there due to being intimidated.

There's a poss for a wider thread on this btw - rough areas you been to in sw/surprisingly rough areas/ something like that

 

[BlackArab]

There's a poss for a wider thread on this btw - rough areas you been to in sw/surprisingly rough areas/ something like that

I could literally write a book! We covered an area from Cheltenham down to Taunton/Bridgwater and across to Swindon so probably worked most of them. Came to realise that living on rural/small town estates was far worse than the inner city because of the real lack of opportunities caused by their isolation and need for your own transport.

 

[BlackArab]

I'm a Bournville boy (we drop the e like bridgwater) - does my head in to see people think once you're out of the city it's all phill coliins mansion

Back to the housing though, they can easily do the 21 000 houses on brownfield - so what may appear as opposition to new houses is opposition to a form of rapacious new housing.

Is it true London gangs are trying to move into WSM these days, keep hearing rumours?

 

[butchersapron]

Is it true London gangs are trying to move into WSM these days, keep hearing rumours?

Seen nothing, brum lads running stuff right now.

 

[butchersapron]

I could literally write a book! We covered an area from Cheltenham down to Taunton/Bridgwater and across to Swindon so probably worked most of them. Came to realise that living on rural/small town estates was far worse than the inner city because of the real lack of opportunities caused by their isolation and need for your own transport.

Transport is a key thing - the bus that used to go from the bournville to weston hospital has just been axed. So sick people on the bournville have to pay to get into town then pay to get a bus back the same way to a place a mile away from them. More people on that estate are sick than elsewhere and they're least able to pay to get to the place.

 

[BlackArab]

Seen nothing, brum lads running stuff right now.

That makes more sense and might even explain the riot vans outside Dismaland for the Run the Jewels gig.

 

[teccuk]

No, the opposition comes from there being brownfield sites within the proposed areas that can do it - and without the opportunistic profit seeking light regulation they get in green field areas (most now already bought up by speculators in advance of this move by Lewis).

The people getting slagged off here are people who want HA etc housing built on brownfield sites, not hippies or poshoes. Is there some bristol snobbishness that thinks if you got south of the city it's either hippies or posh people - us normals live here too! Looking at you BA!

If the brownfield land argument was true that would be brilliant, but the 4 Bristols council's reckon they need 85K houses until 2030, there's never 85Ks worth of browfield land. England has tonnes of the stuff, but not where the pressure is, there's tons in Hartlepool or Preston, but not much in the South or SE. There are these things so dull you'll cry, called Strategic Housing Land Assessments where they go around and find brownfield land and estimate how much housing you can put on it all, and its not enough. The examples above, Frys etc are good examples of how hard it is to build on these sites, its takes ages, the land is poisoned, English Heritage get in the way, etc, etc, etc.

I live in one of those little towns in NS thats going to get smacked with houses, it sucks, but i want my kids to get somewhere and at somepoint i want a house with more than 5 rooms, it has to happen even if it sucks.

Also... brum ganags in W-s-M... bloody hell.

 

[fizzerbird]

wtf is a brum ganag? and what is it doing in Weston Super Mare?

 

[bi0boy]

wtf is a brum ganag?

 

[BlackArab]

wtf is a brum ganag? and what is it doing in Weston Super Mare?

Typo, it should have been gang. Inner city gangs often set up operations in other towns to sell drugs.

I was really tempted to offer up an elaborate story about it being a Malaysian style curry popular in the Midlands but didn't want to be cruel.

 

[fizzerbird]

Typo, it should have been gang. Inner city gangs often set up operations in other towns to sell drugs.

I was really tempted to offer up an elaborate story about it being a Malaysian style curry popular in the Midlands but didn't want to be cruel.