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Bands with a big reputation that are (musically) shite

Steel Icarus said:
Ah, you need the 'Bands who are criminally underrated but who can play really well' thread, then
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Yeah, it's kinda like bands that previously dismissed as boring/not remotely interested in that eventually became essential as got older... one of the things about the aging process is barriers coming down in terms of music likes
 
It IS interesting what people listen to music for, though. I'll admit I'm a tune obsessive, even it's a looped melody and I like it that'll move me in some way but if it's technically brilliant but you've forgotten what the track goes like while it's still playing I'm not arsed
 
krtek a houby said:
Yeah, it's kinda like bands that previously dismissed as boring/not remotely interested in that eventually became essential as got older... one of the things about the aging process is barriers coming down in terms of music likes
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I've added bands rather than replaced them, so I still listen to music I did aged 12, 18, etc but also stuff I've heard recently even if that stuff is 20 years old, usually edm
 
Knotted said:
Yeah I agree with this. Hendrix was good of course but not absolute top level like Jeff Beck or even Mark Knopfler or John Mayer. And everyone is tapping these days so Van Halen is a much more important figure. Not that you will ever catch me listening to Van Halen, I fucking hate it and I'd rather listen to Hendrix x1 million.

Thread To be honest its really odd seeing U75 fetishise musicality/the craft of making music. Whatever happened to artistry and sound that's just interesting in its own right? Whatever happened to basic music that just slaps? All you old punks are betraying your younger selves. These days there are so many amazing young guitarists (for example) on social media who put Hendrix or pretty much any one of these old guys to shame. Tapping, slapping, percussing, twiddling, math-rock-chording all with amazing intonation and somehow astonishingly all at once. But I want to see the return of some proper grot. And I'm a fucking prog rock fan.
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Yet particular Hendrix recordings of, e.g. All Along the Watchtower, or Voodoo Chile, are outstanding. Improvisational music runs the risk of sometimes being a bit naff, occasionally transcendent.
 
The thing about Hendrix playing isn't his technical prowess. It's the feel, all those little chops, mutes and bends. That isn't stuff you learn from tab, it's just in the feel of playing the instrument, responding in the moment. Stevie Ray Vaughan says something good about how he comes up with stuff at the beginning of Texas Flood... I like Van Halen too.

That Zapper stuff above though just sounds like a parody to me. I was trying to find the Howard Moon playing jazz guitar bit in the Mighty Boosh to illustrate.
 
krtek a houby said:
Some astounding guitar work from Eddie Hazel in early Funkadelic
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This version of Maggot Brain is just astonishing, even if the guitars are a bit low in the mix. Fretwank, yes, but it works because it builds emotionally and because of the contrast with the 4 chords in the background:



Hang on, how did this thread get onto what is good? I want to know what's shit. :mad:
 
Knotted said:
Yeah I agree with this. Hendrix was good of course but not absolute top level like Jeff Beck or even Mark Knopfler or John Mayer. And everyone is tapping these days so Van Halen is a much more important figure. Not that you will ever catch me listening to Van Halen, I fucking hate it and I'd rather listen to Hendrix x1 million.
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Yep to that. Even if you strip away the social context around Hendrix - counter culture, blues player helping create a new rock music etc - some of which was a bit dodgy anyway - he gets it on 'the music'. But 'the music' isn't something to do with speed or other technical stuff, it's about the subtleties he created, particularly the way he combined rhythm and lead parts. It was about creating songs, not vehicles for showing off.
 
Wilf said:
Yep to that. Even if you strip away the social context around Hendrix - counter culture, blues player helping create a new rock music etc - some of which was a bit dodgy anyway - he gets it on 'the music'. But 'the music' isn't something to do with speed or other technical stuff, it's about the subtleties he created, particularly the way he combined rhythm and lead parts. It was about creating songs, not vehicles for showing off.
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I love the guitar/bass/drums band set up since everyone has to work hard and play inventively to maintain a full sound - Hendrix, Pete Townshend and Cream-era Clapton were great at that. Others like Jimmy Page when playing live exposed how much he relied on studio overdubs. Having too many players makes a band quite unwieldy and inflexible but, with a trio, you develop a musical empathy with band mates so you can turn on a sixpence.
 
The39thStep said:
David Byrne wrote a book in which he talked about venues and sound and how some venues better suit some music and sound. There are some bands who you don't get until you see them live and in the right venue for them . However you've hit on something with production as there are some bands who just wouldn't sound the same with another producer ie Joy Division and Martin Hannett, the Talking Heads /Eno period,TalkTalk and Freise-Green, Visconti/Bowie, Martin/Beatles etc
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I thought Bowie sounded great with pretty much all his producers, especially Brian Eno; also Gus Dudgeon, Ken Scott, etc,
 
Jennaonthebeach said:
Didn't Morrissey get them back together so that they went on tour and made a whole new album, before they all started dying?
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Not sure. McLaren had something to do with them possibly?

Their first album led to discovering the genius of Todd Rundgren, another musician had dismissed in younger years.
 
krtek a houby said:
Not sure. McLaren had something to do with them possibly?

Their first album led to discovering the genius of Todd Rundgren, another musician had dismissed in younger years.
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McClaren's involvement was in the mid 70s & after, he decided to rip them off. Morrisey got them back together in 2004 for the Meltdown Festival, and they stayed together for a bit - till 2011.
 
seeformiles said:
I love the guitar/bass/drums band set up since everyone has to work hard and play inventively to maintain a full sound - Hendrix, Pete Townshend and Cream-era Clapton were great at that. Others like Jimmy Page when playing live exposed how much he relied on studio overdubs. Having too many players makes a band quite unwieldy and inflexible but, with a trio, you develop a musical empathy with band mates so you can turn on a sixpence.
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See also early Blue Cheer and early Guru Guru.
 
The Beatles were way more talented musically than the Stones but a lot of folk preferred the latter. Meaning there’s a vibe people prefer beyond simply talent.
 
Joy Division: saw them when they were called Warsaw. Nothing special. Then a few months later I saw them as Joy Division at Bolton Tech. There was about 14-15 people in the audience. They were shite.
 
I saw the Stone Roses in 1988 - a free lunchtime gig at Jordanstown Uni just outside of Belfast. Didn’t think that much of them and thought their psychedelic image was better than their tunes. Stayed for a few numbers and then sloped off to get stoned at my mate’s flat.
 
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