Bands with a big reputation that are (musically) shite
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Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I'm not
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
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krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Yeah, it's kinda like bands that previously dismissed as boring/not remotely interested in that eventually became essential as got older... one of the things about the aging process is barriers coming down in terms of music likes
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
It IS interesting what people listen to music for, though. I'll admit I'm a tune obsessive, even it's a looped melody and I like it that'll move me in some way but if it's technically brilliant but you've forgotten what the track goes like while it's still playing I'm not arsed
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I've added bands rather than replaced them, so I still listen to music I did aged 12, 18, etc but also stuff I've heard recently even if that stuff is 20 years old, usually edm
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Yet particular Hendrix recordings of, e.g. All Along the Watchtower, or Voodoo Chile, are outstanding. Improvisational music runs the risk of sometimes being a bit naff, occasionally transcendent.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Aye, Madness is a band will still happily listen to. Even Howard Jones occasionally gets a spin!
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Fair enough.
The thing about Hendrix playing isn't his technical prowess. It's the feel, all those little chops, mutes and bends. That isn't stuff you learn from tab, it's just in the feel of playing the instrument, responding in the moment. Stevie Ray Vaughan says something good about how he comes up with stuff at the beginning of Texas Flood... I like Van Halen too.
That Zapper stuff above though just sounds like a parody to me. I was trying to find the Howard Moon playing jazz guitar bit in the Mighty Boosh to illustrate.
That Zapper stuff above though just sounds like a parody to me. I was trying to find the Howard Moon playing jazz guitar bit in the Mighty Boosh to illustrate.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
This version of Maggot Brain is just astonishing, even if the guitars are a bit low in the mix. Fretwank, yes, but it works because it builds emotionally and because of the contrast with the 4 chords in the background:
Hang on, how did this thread get onto what is good? I want to know what's shit.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
It's quite hard because people who are shit at all aspects of music generally don't get successful at it
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yep to that. Even if you strip away the social context around Hendrix - counter culture, blues player helping create a new rock music etc - some of which was a bit dodgy anyway - he gets it on 'the music'. But 'the music' isn't something to do with speed or other technical stuff, it's about the subtleties he created, particularly the way he combined rhythm and lead parts. It was about creating songs, not vehicles for showing off.
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
I love the guitar/bass/drums band set up since everyone has to work hard and play inventively to maintain a full sound - Hendrix, Pete Townshend and Cream-era Clapton were great at that. Others like Jimmy Page when playing live exposed how much he relied on studio overdubs. Having too many players makes a band quite unwieldy and inflexible but, with a trio, you develop a musical empathy with band mates so you can turn on a sixpence.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
I don't understand this thread. I absolutely love the New York dolls. Often have them blasting out at home. What's not to like?
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
I thought Bowie sounded great with pretty much all his producers, especially Brian Eno; also Gus Dudgeon, Ken Scott, etc,
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Was Morrissey who used to rave about them. One of his few positives.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
i found a lot of good music following tips from Morrissey over the years.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
Didn't Morrissey get them back together so that they went on tour and made a whole new album, before they all started dying?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Not sure. McLaren had something to do with them possibly?
Their first album led to discovering the genius of Todd Rundgren, another musician had dismissed in younger years.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
McClaren's involvement was in the mid 70s & after, he decided to rip them off. Morrisey got them back together in 2004 for the Meltdown Festival, and they stayed together for a bit - till 2011.
See also early Blue Cheer and early Guru Guru.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Something/Anything is an amazing album
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
The Beatles were way more talented musically than the Stones but a lot of folk preferred the latter. Meaning there’s a vibe people prefer beyond simply talent.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I saw the Slits aroung 1977/1978. They were really poor and only got a couple of songs in before they started arguing with each other and all stormed off the stage. Troopers they were not. It proper put me off them.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
That's just showing off.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Joy Division: saw them when they were called Warsaw. Nothing special. Then a few months later I saw them as Joy Division at Bolton Tech. There was about 14-15 people in the audience. They were shite.
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
I saw the Stone Roses in 1988 - a free lunchtime gig at Jordanstown Uni just outside of Belfast. Didn’t think that much of them and thought their psychedelic image was better than their tunes. Stayed for a few numbers and then sloped off to get stoned at my mate’s flat.
