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My post was on the wrong thread but I agree with your sentiment
Attendances....
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My post was on the wrong thread but I agree with your sentiment
PartisanDulwich
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29 September 2015 Ryman League
ATTENDANCE: Metropolitan Police v Dulwich Hamlet - 136
(one of the lowest gates for a game in the Ryman involving Dulwich Hamlet)
ATTENDANCE: Metropolitan Police v Dulwich Hamlet - 136
(one of the lowest gates for a game in the Ryman involving Dulwich Hamlet)
pompeydunc
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Probably about 80 to 100 were Dulwich though. Not a single cheer when they scored, even the people who watch Met Police don't even actually support them.
Pink Panther
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They had an attendance of just 64 for a midweek league match against VCD, the least supported other club in the division, which suggests they have a base home crowd for midweek matches of not much more than 50.
My 'guestimate' for last Tuesday was around eighty Hamlet fans made the trip to Imber Court.
Not any longer - here's a vice article on Met Police from earlier this year: Behind the Scenes at Britain's Most Misunderstood Football Club | VICE Sports
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Well they are still funded from the Police Lottery and play at Imber Court which is owned by the Met. If they changed the name I imagine the lottery money would stop, and while it might bring in some more fans to be Thames Ditton FC or whatever, I doubt it would be enough to cover the losses (I'd think it might well make no difference at all personally).
PartisanDulwich
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So 869 in attendance against Merstham on Tuesday evening 27th October 2015
as reported elsewhere certainly one of the highest mid week attendances ever
Dulwich Hamlets attendances still over a 1,000 average for the season
Interesting if compare to Salford City FC now backed by Class of 92 (ex united players) and billionaire Singapore finance
average gates 471, highest league gate 636 this season and last season 1,300 (Capacity)
also on Tuesday night Salford City drew with Matlock town at home
attendance was 427
So Dulwich Hamlet pulling in twice as many to champion hill on Tuesday night than the Class of 92 #justsaying
as reported elsewhere certainly one of the highest mid week attendances ever
Dulwich Hamlets attendances still over a 1,000 average for the season
Interesting if compare to Salford City FC now backed by Class of 92 (ex united players) and billionaire Singapore finance
average gates 471, highest league gate 636 this season and last season 1,300 (Capacity)
also on Tuesday night Salford City drew with Matlock town at home
attendance was 427
So Dulwich Hamlet pulling in twice as many to champion hill on Tuesday night than the Class of 92 #justsaying
Who gives a fuck what crowds others are drawing in?
What were Salford's crowds in previous years?
I would guess their growth is comparable to the first few years for us under Gavin...
And why slag off their backers? I have no idea how much money they are throwing in...but surely it's a good thing that they are supporting and trying to grow a small, traditional local non-league side?
And with regard to our crowd, not a criticism I hasten to add, but it was boosted by a large contingent who were guests of the Club, from the superb Football Beyond Borders charity.
What were Salford's crowds in previous years?
I would guess their growth is comparable to the first few years for us under Gavin...
And why slag off their backers? I have no idea how much money they are throwing in...but surely it's a good thing that they are supporting and trying to grow a small, traditional local non-league side?
And with regard to our crowd, not a criticism I hasten to add, but it was boosted by a large contingent who were guests of the Club, from the superb Football Beyond Borders charity.
PartisanDulwich
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Did you watch the Class of 92 ?
Because if you did, you would note fans real concern about direction of club
and how the only driving concern of the new owners was League status
and yes think Singapore multi millionaire buying out an English non league club is an issue
if you want to see the development of more fan based/council ownership
Because if you did, you would note fans real concern about direction of club
and how the only driving concern of the new owners was League status
and yes think Singapore multi millionaire buying out an English non league club is an issue
if you want to see the development of more fan based/council ownership
blueheaven
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I thought it was a really fascinating documentary and worth watching for anyone with an interest in non league or lower level football. I'm sure the "Class of 92" guys all feel they're doing a good, positive thing for that club (and I thought Gary Neville came across really well), but guys like that aren't really football fans in the way we are, and don't seem to understand why doing a thing like immediately changing a club's badge and colours can cause friction. There seems to be a thin line between showing ambition for growth, and trying to force change on a club that just doesn't want it. It made me feel that Hamlet are quite fortunate in that the growth here is a bit more "organic" - it's happening because of increasing crowds, a good manager and a long-term plan, rather than because some big-money types have suddenly arrived out of nowhere and tried to turn the club into some sort of new Man Utd. Part two next week should be well worth a watch.
PartisanDulwich
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Agreed, thought it was a very good programme on Salford - very unusual to have a woman chairman I though, as you say Gary Neville came over well - Giggs seemed just wanted the team to get into the League. (loved the issue with the Sky box and the issue re fitness training v planning tactics)
Think its also interesting that despite the hype when they bought the club unlike FC United there fan base (todate) has not taken off (maybe after this programme)
I think as much as we we are proud of how we have increased attendances, think its also interesting to see clubs like Bromley (starting at a similar base) doing likewise, suspect capitalising on their success in the League and community outreach work
Think its also interesting that despite the hype when they bought the club unlike FC United there fan base (todate) has not taken off (maybe after this programme)
I think as much as we we are proud of how we have increased attendances, think its also interesting to see clubs like Bromley (starting at a similar base) doing likewise, suspect capitalising on their success in the League and community outreach work
No, I haven't seen the programme, in fact I've not even heard of it. Truth be told, I haven't watched telly for years, simply don't have time to.
I don't think it's right to compare them to FCUofM. They are CLEARLY set up on different lines, and have a clear 'captive market' of disillusioned former Old Trafford goers, or those who couldn't afford to go there on a regular basis. Like the Kingston Dons, they were clearly starting than a 'larger than normal' fan base for their level.
Taking over an established non-league side like Salford City...yes, it will take time to grow support, if they do, or not. Quite clearly their crowds ARE growing. Let's not forget when our average crowds reached the four hundred mark WE thought they were huge then...
As for Bromley...trust me, they are 'only' where they are attendance wise, through doing well in the league. And that is only achieved by several backers from their Board pumping in lots of money. Their budget last season was allegedly at least three to four times higher to what ours is, though I'm not going to disclose any actual figures, as I base it on a mix of 'accurate hearsay' from people there I know are 'in the know' & confidential information given to me.
If they were to struggle in the Conference National their crowds will plummet. And by all accounts I've heard it's not the most pleasant place to go, for away sides with half-decent support, as they can get a fair bit of grief, depending on how brave these young 'Football Factory-wannabes' are. Fortunately they got a bit to lairy at Ebbsfleet United last season, and got well slapped. Some of the old school Bromley fans are, to be honest, embarrassed by them.
Bottom line is...there will never be a 'Football Utopia' of every club being fan owned, or fan directed.
As it stands I think we are in an extremely hopeful position, as if all comes to fruition, and the planning application goes through, we will have a fan owned Club handed to us all, at no cost!
I don't think it's right to compare them to FCUofM. They are CLEARLY set up on different lines, and have a clear 'captive market' of disillusioned former Old Trafford goers, or those who couldn't afford to go there on a regular basis. Like the Kingston Dons, they were clearly starting than a 'larger than normal' fan base for their level.
Taking over an established non-league side like Salford City...yes, it will take time to grow support, if they do, or not. Quite clearly their crowds ARE growing. Let's not forget when our average crowds reached the four hundred mark WE thought they were huge then...
As for Bromley...trust me, they are 'only' where they are attendance wise, through doing well in the league. And that is only achieved by several backers from their Board pumping in lots of money. Their budget last season was allegedly at least three to four times higher to what ours is, though I'm not going to disclose any actual figures, as I base it on a mix of 'accurate hearsay' from people there I know are 'in the know' & confidential information given to me.
If they were to struggle in the Conference National their crowds will plummet. And by all accounts I've heard it's not the most pleasant place to go, for away sides with half-decent support, as they can get a fair bit of grief, depending on how brave these young 'Football Factory-wannabes' are. Fortunately they got a bit to lairy at Ebbsfleet United last season, and got well slapped. Some of the old school Bromley fans are, to be honest, embarrassed by them.
Bottom line is...there will never be a 'Football Utopia' of every club being fan owned, or fan directed.
As it stands I think we are in an extremely hopeful position, as if all comes to fruition, and the planning application goes through, we will have a fan owned Club handed to us all, at no cost!
clog
she seems to like to nitpick and moan a lot
I am not a fan of Bromley. Thought a section of their fans unwelcoming and sexist when I went a few weeks back.
Yes, sort of what I was saying...nothing like Champion Hill. Though I do enjoy an occasional visit there, and plan to, once our midweeks dry up, and they have a home midweek fixture, to entice me...
Cannon Fodder
Man and ball? They both look the same to me....
I believe Bromley have a quasi-Crystal Palace ultra element to their support and some disaffected Charlton fans are talking about starting to go to Bromley. Can't see that working somehow.
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hiraethified
Well, let me see what I can do to get the word out.
bringbackelmo
Active Member
I'm making just my third appearance at the Hill this season so looking forward to it, whatever the crowd.
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hiraethified
Wham ba'am! Buzzed, 20k+ tweet and Facebooked FTW!
Half price admission tonight as Dulwich Hamlet get stuck into the London Senior Cup, Tues 3rd Nov
Half price admission tonight as Dulwich Hamlet get stuck into the London Senior Cup, Tues 3rd Nov
Anything over 200 for a London Senior Cup tie nowadays will be good. Hopefully the half price offer will push the gate over the 300 mark.
pompeydunc
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Last season it was 95 (ninety-five) for same round. Expect we'll better that tonight.
It wasn't a friendly, it was the London Senior Cup which at one point wasn't very friendly! With regards to admission prices I think it might be permitted in the league cup as well providing both clubs agree to it.
