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pseudonarcissus
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it's work....so I can put it on my expenses....but it's just not rightCrispy said:I would never, ever use a mobile phone for data while roaming. That's a hell of a sting you got there
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In the cab to JFK airport yesterday morning. Fellow traveller whips out his iPhone to book his reservation with Virgin. Cue groans as he's forced to download huge great graphics on the site because the built in browser won't let him turn images off.
Naturally, there's no Wi-Fi so he's on AT&T's creaky data network.
He gave up after 15 mins.
Whatever phone you use, make sure there's an option to turn off images and limit downloads (Chattermail/Blazer on the Palm is great for this. But there again, Blazer looks rubbish compared to the Apple browser. Chattermail kicks the iPhone's mail app arse though).
Naturally, there's no Wi-Fi so he's on AT&T's creaky data network.
He gave up after 15 mins.
Whatever phone you use, make sure there's an option to turn off images and limit downloads (Chattermail/Blazer on the Palm is great for this. But there again, Blazer looks rubbish compared to the Apple browser. Chattermail kicks the iPhone's mail app arse though).
Gromit
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pseudonarcissus said:
I phoned O2 to transfer over my new number. Whilst we were waiting for the system he told me "Oh and you might like to turn data roaming off if you ever go abroad, some places can charge you like £7 a minute".
I thanked him and this i will do. In fact data roaming is already off as default I'm glad to say but am grateful for the warning from O2 any way. So one thing they've done right, although if i hadn't off rung them up I'd be none the wiser, now thats worrying.
Data roaming is turned off by default - at least it is in 1.1.2 that shipped here. Not much fun if you turn it on without knowing the charges though.
Sounds like AT&T was coming in at $20 per mb. O2 is $14 per mb (EU roaming). It's not cheap either way.
I have to admit I turned it on and used it with impunity when I was over in France last weekend. So I've just checked and (so far) I've only been billed 0.34p... (crosses fingers that somehow I won't get charged for the rest
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(I'm not so sure about AT&T Edge being creaky - I've heard mostly good reports about it).
Sounds like AT&T was coming in at $20 per mb. O2 is $14 per mb (EU roaming). It's not cheap either way.
I have to admit I turned it on and used it with impunity when I was over in France last weekend. So I've just checked and (so far) I've only been billed 0.34p... (crosses fingers that somehow I won't get charged for the rest
)(I'm not so sure about AT&T Edge being creaky - I've heard mostly good reports about it).
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
well, AT&T haved considered their position and have adjusted the bill down, to less than half...
But the problems remains, I need data (emails at least) at reasonable cost, so it look like I'm going to have to get a replacement phone for my personal line with TMobile who have free email for international roaming. So, it looks like the iPhone for voice (AT&T are 1/3 the cost of TMobile) and a dingleberry for email. The Palm is expensive, more than the iPhone at $576 with no discount as TMobile don't push them any more. It'll be about $400 for a Blueberry 8800 but I might go for the Pearl as at least it's a bit more pocket sized.
Merry Isthmus! (My being in Panama at the moment - not arriving by canoe - gag)
But the problems remains, I need data (emails at least) at reasonable cost, so it look like I'm going to have to get a replacement phone for my personal line with TMobile who have free email for international roaming. So, it looks like the iPhone for voice (AT&T are 1/3 the cost of TMobile) and a dingleberry for email. The Palm is expensive, more than the iPhone at $576 with no discount as TMobile don't push them any more. It'll be about $400 for a Blueberry 8800 but I might go for the Pearl as at least it's a bit more pocket sized.
Merry Isthmus! (My being in Panama at the moment - not arriving by canoe - gag)
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
editor said:
maybe I'll look next week once the unwanted Christmas presents make it there, I'm suspicious of electronics on eBay....I get ripped off/have bad luck enough with stuff.
I guess it's not free...it's $75/mo
Kid_Eternity
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UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Its a shame that the browser cant do things like turn of images and go back pages without reloading them, because all the interface is amazing, these problems alone would stop me getting one.
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Via GPRS with images turned off?jæd said:
Highly unlikely unless you were looking at a low graphics website.
And yes, I put it to the test a few weeks ago when a friend was trying to access Virgin Atlantic's site from a cab in NY. The Treo pwned the iPhone (but would obviously would be left standing if there was wi-fi about - and the iPhone's browser is miles better than the basic one that comes with the Treo. Opera works better for graphic sites though.).
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One of the sites was U75. It takes way too long to download on the Treo, and posting is an exercise in frustration. And I've never yet successfully installed Opera... It keeps bitching about a missing Java library, even though I've installed it...
Don't get me wrong, I think the Centro would be a lovely bit of kit. But if they don't release the GSM version *soon* I won't bother...
And if they haven't upgraded Blazer (the Treo browser) I might not bother either...
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Takes but a few seconds to download u75 on my Treo browser.jæd said:
Hang on I'll check.. yep, 6.5 seconds for the u75 BB home page to appear.
You are using the vB3 lite skin, yes?
As for Java I suggest you try installing it again. I had Opera working on my Treo, no probs.
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It takes me 2 mins to load the "New Posts" screen on the Treo with the regular skin. It took a fraction of that with my Boss's iPhone and it wasn't using wireless...
Thing is, the Treo's browser was good when it came out and has been good enough for a while. But that doesn't cut it anymore. Why should I have a "good enough" browser where I have to fiddle with settings to get it performing ok...?
Right at the moment the Treo is the only phone I'd consider, but its slowly getting caught up. If Palm don't do something really good in 2008, they will be history...
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I don't have to fiddle with settings - it takes seconds to select 'turn off images' and for urban I just select the 'lite' skin and that's it.jæd said:
But it all depends what you want a mobile browser to do. I'm not interested in trying to create a 'full web experience' on my phone - I just want information/maps/football scores etc fast.
Great thought the iPhone's browser is, it's still mighty tiresome for anything other than short sessions on the web because of the small size of the screen.
My wi-fi Palm Clie has exactly the same size screen as the iPhone and it's a drag looking at things for long at such a diddy resolution.
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Don't be ridiculous. Surfing web pages by zooming in and out al over the pace on a comparatively tiny screen is not an enjoyable experience.jæd said:
I don't think anyone's claiming that the Treo's ultra-basic browser is better than the iPhones, by the way, but it gets the job done for most sites.
PS I just tried again and it took me about 7 seconds to get the u75 BB homepage on my Treo. Sounds like you've got a problem with your connection or settings.
bouncer_the_dog
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hello! I'm posting from my spanking new iPod touch! Its ssweet! It would be nice to turn images off.... One thing has surprised me is how fast the broadband is here in the states....
1.1.3 has been seen in the wild. Could well be a leak ahead of a MacWorld Expo SF announcement in a few weeks time.
- Multiple recipient text messaging sorted
- Boomarks can be home page icons
- Google Maps supports Hybrid view (satellite + map combined)
- Faux GPS (Cell triangulation). Not sure if this will be available outside the US.
- Home page customisation + pagination.
Demo video: http://gizmodo.com/339055/full-video-demo-of-apple-iphone-firmware-113-features
- Multiple recipient text messaging sorted
- Boomarks can be home page icons
- Google Maps supports Hybrid view (satellite + map combined)
- Faux GPS (Cell triangulation). Not sure if this will be available outside the US.
- Home page customisation + pagination.
Demo video: http://gizmodo.com/339055/full-video-demo-of-apple-iphone-firmware-113-features
Structaural
in Chatsubo
chrisb said:
It's coming soon I think (the video camera) - someone already hacked a version with a pretty high frame rate.
I like the fact that it plays tv show/movies now I'm back on an hour commute. Though it's still not available here in Holland.
fjydj
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editor said:
actually the auto zoom thing is a joy to use, you don't have to zoom in and out with the 2 finger action all the time, a quick double tap of the area you want does an automatic zoom in or out. its really sweet to use...
...there's other issues with it, but screen resizing isn't one
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