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jæd said:
What...? You reckon Apple should produce some kind of basic laptop thing that communicates via bluetooth with an iPhone to make a cut-price laptop for business travellors...?

Never work...! :D
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:D
 
Marius said:
It never really happened for the PsP despite Sony writing software to support it.
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With PSP it's a problem of perception, it's a games machine, and all the attempts to squeeze it into something that's a productivity device are a little retrospective, even the mobile learning initiatives.
 
jæd said:
What...? You reckon Apple should produce some kind of basic laptop thing that communicates via bluetooth with an iPhone to make a cut-price laptop for business travellors...?

Never work...! :D
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Nah, an ultramobile Mac would do this, possibly a touchscreen tablet.
>>Jumps in time machine to January 15 2008
"Oh what about Apple's new ultramobile Mac?"
 
I just went into a Carphone Wharehouse cause i saw they had an iPhone display.

Had a 10 minute play.

It was alright but it didn't make me want to go out and spend extremely silly amounts of dosh on it just cause i could touch the screen. A screen which was just covered in greasy finger prints.
 
720 quid will buy me a lot of hardware that takes a SIM that can do what the apple does better just not in the same size format.

I can get once of these for instance

http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.asp...1012&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11012&InMerch=1

Not massively powered but at 980g its pretty small. I can imagine that its a lot more power than a iPhone and can do a lot more. I think Apple have taken this revenue idea a bit too far.

Surely just a mass market device in Europe would have been a better idea? 200 quid for a nice phone with its accomplished sound and video with a bit of web might have given Sony and Nokia a right kicking in the market.
 
We've been testing one in the office (US cracked) and it's quite nice. Good picture quality for movies, too. Gets awfully mucky though. The women in the office absolutely love it. Bit big though.
 
Yep, but that's a really duff comparison though isn't it?

One's a small, portable device that you can (just about) pop in a pocket, the other weighs the same as a bag of sugar.

:confused:
 
editor said:
Be interesting to see how the battery copes and what kind of hefty price/contract they slap on it.
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Well, iPod started pricey and grew cheaper, same will happen with iPhone, but I'm not really arsed at discussing that - if you don't want to pay that much, then buy something else, after all, who really cares.

But the 3G battery life thing, that's interesting, as I seem to recall hearing that the Extended Battery Life Working Group (a trans industry group) is close to releasing a new 3G battery type spec/version that is less demanding on power.

If my recollection is correct (and it is, vaguely), this will report in mid-spring next year. If my hunch is right, this means a 3G iPhone with decent battery life should technically be possible using this new standard, and May could suit the release (assuming the group has already or is close to already setting the base hardware requirements), as any software improvements could be applied at manufacture, once hardware (for 3G iPhones) had been stocked up to spec.

I can't recall where I heard about this, I either read it, got told it, or had an email, but can't dig it out.
 
Personally I'd rather keep them all seperate. I mean, why would I want a PDA/typing device if I'm out in town shopping or clubbing or something. I'd want as slim a device as possible. I'm not going to be web surfing. I'd also prefer something under £100 if I lose it/get mugged.

Conversely, if I'm going away on holiday, on a plane/train or whatever..I'd like something small and light to do web surfing, blogging, skype-ing, typing etc which doesn't weigh a ton when you're carrying round lots of other things.

I would prefer something like this:

Nokia 6300 - simple and easy as possible to call/txt when out on the move. £79 approx

Asus Eee PC 4G - Currently retailing for under £175 in the US. Does web/skype/full keyboard/inbuilt webcam ethernet etc etc.

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So, all that for approx £250. Much more preferable to spending £800 on an iPhone IMHO
 
skyscraper101 said:
So, all that for approx £250. Much more preferable to spending £800 on an iPhone IMHO
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I totally agree. However logic hasn't stopped me from going out and being a twat and buying an iPhone today. OMG I must be mad but I did it anyway.

I kept saying i wouldn't and its too much money for what you get but i tried the much cheaper N95 and discovered I didn't really like it that much.
 
tarannau said:
Yep, but that's a really duff comparison though isn't it?

One's a small, portable device that you can (just about) pop in a pocket, the other weighs the same as a bag of sugar.

:confused:
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No not really, its in the same price bracket as the unlocked iPhone, has a full web browser, touch screen, etc etc.

OK if size is a problem then it loses but I know which of the two I'd get if someone gave me the cash to spend.
 
rocketman said:
But the 3G battery life thing, that's interesting, as I seem to recall hearing that the Extended Battery Life Working Group (a trans industry group) is close to releasing a new 3G battery type spec/version that is less demanding on power.
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There isn't anything special about 3G that would lead to a '3G Battery'.

Maybe you are thinking of the new low power 3G chip from Broadcom - it was announced just over a month ago, and this is probably what Apple will be using.

But overall, I think the gist of what you are saying is right... I'd be surprised if Apple, having said they stayed away from 3G for batter life reasons, replace the current model with something with materially less run time.
 
skyscraper101 said:
Personally I'd rather keep them all seperate. I mean, why would I want a PDA/typing device if I'm out in town shopping or clubbing or something. I'd want as slim a device as possible. I'm not going to be web surfing. I'd also prefer something under £100 if I lose it/get mugged.
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Thats kind of what I do now... I have a "clubbing" phone thats a ancient Nokia that I'm not concerned about losing, and my Treo for most days...

My laptop usually only comes with if I'm going to be away somewhere for a while. At work I tend to also use my Treo for basic trouble-shooting. Its not ideal but I don't like lugging my Powerbook around... (And its why any iPhone I got would need to run 3rd party apps...)
 
Missing Features

Right now i've had a good play i still like my new iPhone but am disappointed that some basic features are missing.

SMS
No picture messaging. You can niether send nor recieve picture messages. Instead they go to and O2 website which is quite frankly crap.

No message forwarding. Send me a joke and the chain ends with me. I guess it stops me from using up all my free txts and having to pay extra. i.e. they are missing out on money here the idiots.

No multiple recipients. If I want to send the same message to 3 different people i have to type it out three times. Once again a money loser.

Camera
Can't create additional folders for me to seperate my pics out. I don't want to show people every pic i have on the phone when showing it off.
Flash.

Weather
I don't live in London but in Cardiff thickos. Waste of time for me.

Ringtones
I can't add my own.
Vollume ain't brill either.

Hope some of these will be sorted out by firware updates at some stage.
 
Argh because iPhone makes good use of albulm covers I'm getting iTunes to DL them. Unfortunately not all my tracks are properly labeled and so it can't fetch them all.

So guess who has the lovely task of adding the Albulm name to 308 tracks with the help of Wiki.

The fact that some my track never made it to albulm so i have to find how Itunes calls it doesn't help e.g. "A Whiter Shade of Pale (Live) - Single"

Or how about funky titles like "Blade Runner (Soundtrack from the Motion Picture)" or it doesn't work :(
 
untethered said:
iPhone crowds? Don't believe the hype:

http://www.dialaphone.co.uk/blog/?p=750

A nice antidote to the Apple reality forcefield.
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Forgive me for being a conspiraloon, but wasn't the launch at 18.02...? Wouldn't have the sun go down by then...? So some (undated) pictures of empty Mobile Phone shops in random locations prove *what*...?

So who was expecting crowds of hungry iPhone fan;s in Wimbledon at around 2pm in the afternoon :confused:
 
"British iPhone users, who bought the Apple phones when they went on sale in England on Nov. 9, are reporting persistent problems with signal strength on O2, the UK's only iPhone service provider. The complaints started only 2 days later. InfoWeek blogger Alex Wolfe says there's a debate as to whether O2 or the iPhone is at fault; it appears to be the handset, which is unusual since US users haven't reported similar problems. Some 02 customers report that getting a replacement phone fixes things; others have had to do a software restore back to version 1.1.2 of the iPhone software."
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First of this I've heard...any of our resident Urban75 iPhone owners had any probs like this?
 
Marius said:
Right now i've had a good play i still like my new iPhone but am disappointed that some basic features are missing.
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Some of these are fixable, others disappointing.

SMS
No picture messaging. You can niether send nor recieve picture messages. Instead they go to and O2 website which is quite frankly crap.
Yeah, that's rubbish - and no video, why? And why can't you beam contacts using Bluetooth, like every other phone does.

No message forwarding. Send me a joke and the chain ends with me. I guess it stops me from using up all my free txts and having to pay extra. i.e. they are missing out on money here the idiots.
Silly

No multiple recipients. If I want to send the same message to 3 different people i have to type it out three times. Once again a money loser.
Short-sighted

Camera
Can't create additional folders for me to seperate my pics out. I don't want to show people every pic i have on the phone when showing it off.
Flash.
Hmm, there may be a workaround

Weather
I don't live in London but in Cardiff thickos. Waste of time for me.
Ah - this one is fixable - click on the small 'i' in the bottom right corner of the screen, a new screen pops-up: hit the + button at top left, and you can search for a city and get its weather. I got Cardiff.

Ringtones
I can't add my own.
Vollume ain't brill either.

You can download this software that lets you pop new tunes in as ringtones
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

Hope some of these will be sorted out by firware updates at some stage.
Yes also here that hope, but there are other phones. For all that, I don't miss 3G much, but there are criticisms.
 
rocketman said:
And why can't you beam contacts using Bluetooth, like every other phone does.

Weather

Ah - this one is fixable - click on the small 'i' in the bottom right corner of the screen, a new screen pops-up: hit the + button at top left, and you can search for a city and get its weather. I got Cardiff.

Ringtones
You can download this software that lets you pop new tunes in as ringtones
http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/
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Ah thanks for that. My weather is now changed and I'm about to look at that ringtone software (ah damn its Mac only, no good to me :( thanks anyways).

Good point re bluetooth. It has bluetooth else how could you use the bluetooth headset. But unlike other phones you can't use it to bluetooth ringtones, pics etc. to other phones for free.

So another missing feature.
 
Marius said:
Ah thanks for that. My weather is now changed and I'm about to look at that ringtone software (ah damn its Mac only, no good to me :( thanks anyways).
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Don't know if it works the same on a PC but with the latest itunes on a Mac import your own ringtones (with no hacking just a bit of a workaround). You need to edit a track to 30 seconds, or just under, with music editing software (I used garageband on a Mac but I think you can find a few free ones on the net, try versiontracker.com). Then, convert your edited track to an aac file in itunes, locate the file, change the extension from M4a to M4r, reimport and it should appear under the ringtones tab in itunes and can then be synced over.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
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First of this I've heard...any of our resident Urban75 iPhone owners had any probs like this?
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No probs here. Not heard of this issue. From reading some of the discussion, it might be caused by having a duff battery.
 
Top iTunes Tip:

If you are trying to DL the Artwork for The Complete Led Zepplin apparently you have to spell them as Led Zeplin (one P) under artists Grrrr :mad: Otherwise it won't recognise the Album.

...And then change it back to the correct spelling afterwards if you are anal like me.

God the ages wasted working that out but i refused to let it beat me. I was having the artwork if it killed me.

I still have 34 album covers missing as iTunes is funny as hell when it comes to soundtracks and old compilations.

My entire sunday and part of saturday night has been spent just sorting out my iTunes Library for the sake of my iPhone pretty album covers features.
 
Marius said:
Top iTunes Tip:

If you are trying to DL the Artwork for The Complete Led Zepplin apparently you have to spell them as Led Zeplin (one P) under artists Grrrr :mad: Otherwise it won't recognise the Album.

...And then change it back to the correct spelling afterwards if you are anal like me.

God the ages wasted working that out but i refused to let it beat me. I was having the artwork if it killed me.

I still have 34 album covers missing as iTunes is funny as hell when it comes to soundtracks and old compilations.

My entire sunday and part of saturday night has been spent just sorting out my iTunes Library for the sake of my iPhone pretty album covers features.
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Why not just add the artwork manually...? :confused: Much quicker that mucking around with vaugeries of iTunes...

1) Download suitable artwork (often from Amazon)
2) Select all tunes in a album
3) Press "Get Info" for them
4) Double click on Artwork box
5) Select your artwork you got in 1
6) Press "Open", a,d then "OK", and watch it add the artwork to selected tracks...
 
I just bought my iPhone, but can't activate it - apparently O2 need more time to review my application. :mad: :(

It looks very nice, though. :cool:
 
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