Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)
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hiraethified
Even sadder was CBGBs closing down but then spawning a t-shirt shop.Fact: Harley Davidson make more money from Harley Davidson Merchandising than they do from Motorbikes
I imagine Motorhead must sell more t-shirts than records too. And the Ramones too, probably.
Sure is a crazy, mixed up world we live in folks. Oh yes indeedy.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Fact: Harley Davidson make more money from Harley Davidson Merchandising than they do from Motorbikes
Yep same goes for bands when it comes to albums versus merchandise profits too.
skyscraper101
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Looks like the iPhone is going to be made available as Pay As You Go on 16th September with free unlimited browsing and Wi-Fi for the first 12 months (looks like its £10 per month after). According to the site, the new iPhone 3G 8GB for Pay & Go will be available for £349.99 and the 16GB version for £399.99
Still very pricey but cheaper than the current option if you don't make a huge amount of calls on your mobile but still want a handy 3G mobile internet device. Its looking more and more tempting I have to say.
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo
Still very pricey but cheaper than the current option if you don't make a huge amount of calls on your mobile but still want a handy 3G mobile internet device. Its looking more and more tempting I have to say.
http://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paygo
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
About the going rate for a high-end smartphone, confirmed by a quick scan of the frront page of www.expansys.com
skyscraper101
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Yeah..I know. A development nonetheless in the ongoing iPhone saga.
As someone on HUKD pointed out, it actually works out at £530 on Pay & Go for the 8GB (£10 top up X 18 months plus £350) It would cost £720 for the same on the contract (£45 a month for the 1st 9 months then £35 a month for the 9 after that) so you would save about £190 a month with this give or take.
However, you lose the visual voicemail and call merging plus the unlimited WiFi & Browsing for the last 6 months worth £60.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Yep the new Treo Pro is probably gonna be about 400 quid...
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hiraethified
Like I said, I'd never buy a phone at that price - even a Palm!
I'd wager the Treo Pro will soon be available for a fair bit less than £400 in a month or so and - unlike the original iPhone - it's immediately available free on contract from its launch date and you can use it on any network.
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hiraethified
Looking at the small print of the PAYG deal, customers have to agree to a minimum top up amount every single month of £10 and calls to UK landlines are charged at a pricey 5p per minute with texts stinging you at 10p a go. That kind of bumps the overall cost up a bit.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/idg/uk/MacworldUk/~3/380612033/story01.htm
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/idg/uk/MacworldUk/~3/380612033/story01.htm
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hiraethified
There's a *huge* market for religious apps on PDAs/smartphones. There's loads of weird God-bothering apps available for the Palm and I expect it'll be the same story for the iPhone.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
So it's 400 then...? Also, you can get most phones for free on a high enough tariff...
moose
like some cat from Japan
Er... that sounds comparable, or cheaper than, most PAYG charges.
Orange: 15p - 20p per minute to UK landlines, texts 10p each
Vodafone: 15p - 20p per minute to UK landlines, texts 10p each
T-Mobile: 20p for first 2 minutes per day, 10p thereafter to UK landlines, texts 10p each
And they've now edited the article you linked to to correct their error in saying you had to top up by £10 per month.
Oswaldtwistle
Banned
5ppm is very cheap for pay as you go!
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hiraethified
If you're wondering why it takes so long for iPhone's to sync, here's the answer:
(*actually, that's not very amusing is it? Sorry)
Elsewhere, Herr Jobs is busy deciding what kind of fun he's going to allow you to have on your own phone. That you bought.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10032963-37.html
(*actually, that's not very amusing is it? Sorry)
Elsewhere, Herr Jobs is busy deciding what kind of fun he's going to allow you to have on your own phone. That you bought.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10032963-37.html
moose
like some cat from Japan
Why are you calling him Herr? Is he German? Are you German? Are you saying something about Germans?
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hiraethified
It's a common enough jokey industry nickname for him, probably coined in response to his, shall we say, rather hands on management of his company and products ("You vill not install that app on your iPhone" etc etc)
http://www.engadget.com/2006/10/16/steve-jobs-worried-about-the-zune-in-a-word-no/
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inqui...en-bill-gates-wants-to-be-bill-gates-any-more
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hiraethified
You're right. It's clearly in terrible taste. No jokes must be made about Mr Jobs and any light hearted references to Germans are simply not funny.
I'll immediately delete all my recordings of Spike Milligan, Fawlty Towers, Dad's Army, Vivian Stanshall, Monty Python etc etc...
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hiraethified
It certainly seems you are. 'Herr' is not a Nazi word. You brought up the Nazi connection. I've never mentioned them.Um, are you confusing Germans with Nazis?
First all the frankly weird and innaccurate stuff about how the iphone (isn't) more expensive than the other PAYG and even contract deals. And now Ed's stooped to Herr Jobs jokes, probably bored by constant repetition of Fanboy.
No, he's got no bias against Apple, oh no not at all. It's all witteh!
No, he's got no bias against Apple, oh no not at all. It's all witteh!
Oh come on. You really claiming that it's just a simple use of "Mr' in german, perhaps a jibe about German efficiency? And nothing at all to do with the war and ideas of 'Nazi' leadership and control.
TBH I don't care either way, but you've got selective self-delusion if you don't believe there's more than a dose of the latter.
moose
like some cat from Japan
But you linked to an article referring to Jobs in connection to 'iGas Chambers', the 4th Reich, and Nazis, and referred to it as light-hearted comments about Germans
(I'm not seriously taking issue with you here, btw, I find your loathing of the Apple Corporation quite entertaining
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hiraethified
If you bothered to read my posts here and elsewhere you'll see I've regularly complimented Apple on their products, their design and their user interface. If I could be arsed, I could easily produce a long list of recent positive comments I've made about Apple but is seems you're blind to them. But let's put it to the test - can you find some posts where I've criticised, say, the iBook?
But what does irk me is how people - like you - are happy to regularly play down their nasty business practices and constantly apologise for the kind of consumer-unfriendly antics you'd be quick to condemn if it were any other company doing them.
And I find it bizarre that whenever I dare point out some of these practices, I'm immediately labelled a hater and 'anti-Apple.'
Sometimes it honestly feels like I've criticised a religion or something - just witness the way you and Moose are leaping on my lighthearted 'Herr Jobs' comment and trying desperately to infer some sort of Nazi connection.
It's pathetic, it really is. I don't hate Apple but I certainly don't like some of their business practices.
Here's a post of mine from just less than 48 hours ago. Can't you just feel the hate?
But hey! Don't let your love of Apple get in the way of the facts, eh?editor said:
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
Microsoft and Sony dictate what goes onto their consoles, their SDK's cost a fucking mint for a start and then they have to get approval of the game. People just hack the fuck out of them. Same with the iPhone now. I see nothing new.
In all cases I reckon that they should exercise better control over what goes on them, too many shit games and applications out there.
In the iPhone, this is partly down to the paucity of top developers on the Mac. Its a professional users computer. PC's are professional developers (and super geeks) computers. Be better if they could release a Windows SDK for the iPhone. Would instantly increase the quality of apps just because there would be million times as many people writing stuff.
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hiraethified
Surely that should be for the owners of the phones to decide, rather than have Apple decide for them what is and isn't useful?
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
I agree, but its not like you don't know what your buying into.
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