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Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

Surely that should be for the owners of the phones to decide, rather than have Apple decide for them what is and isn't useful?

Of course, but as in the case of consoles, if they are going to exercise control, do a decent job of it.

When you shop at Waitrose or John Lewis you are reasonably assured your getting a level of quality from them. I cant see why the same cannot be true of Apples App store.
 
Surely that should be for the owners of the phones to decide, rather than have Apple decide for them what is and isn't useful?

if an poorly written ap crashes, bricks a phone etc cause it's poorly coded apple gets the flack not the so designer. The phone is shit etc etc when it's not the fault of the phone but poor coding.


I can appreciate why apple would want to quality assure out as much of that as possible.To protect rep.
 
Oh, bought one of these

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its Lithium Polymer so its lighter (though more expensive) at only 90g and appx the same size as the iPhone, so pretty small. It also does not suffer from self discharge, the resistance between the plates its very high. This means you can charge it and leave it in your bag for ages and it will still be fully charged when you need it. The main reason I spent the extra.

I got two and half charges on my iPhone, this or something like it is essential if you own an iPhone.

42 quid.
 
Interestingly I've spoken to two people in the last two days, both are 'power' smartphone users (one runs a web design company, the other an IT outfit) both have all kinds of smart phones and had no problems with WM too. Both now have the iPhone 3G, and got it partly due to the new enterprise functionality.
 
Interestingly I've spoken to two people in the last two days, both are 'power' smartphone users (one runs a web design company, the other an IT outfit) both have all kinds of smart phones and had no problems with WM too. Both now have the iPhone 3G, and got it partly due to the new enterprise functionality.

What enterprise functionality?

It can connect to exchange. How about some email functionality, beyond read and reply because that's about all it can do.
 
if an poorly written ap crashes, bricks a phone etc cause it's poorly coded apple gets the flack not the so designer. The phone is shit etc etc when it's not the fault of the phone but poor coding.
Err, you've completely missed the point.

In this recent case, the program was booted off the App store not for being buggy in any way at all - it was booted off because Jobs & Co decided that it was "of limited utility to the broad iPhone and iPod touch user community."

Surely, the user should be deciding what's useful for their own phones, not Jobs?

And, when it comes to bricking phones, well, that's something Apple know about too....
 
What enterprise functionality?

It can connect to exchange. How about some email functionality, beyond read and reply because that's about all it can do.

Sorry meant exchange (was er writing about social enterprise and stopped to post :oops: )!
 
Does seem daft, but this made me smile on the page you linked to.

The "I am Rich" application developed by Armin Heinrich, a German software developer, does nothing more than display a picture of a red ruby on the iPhone screen. After initially approving the $1,000 application, Apple removed it from the store this week. Eight people managed to dish out $1,000 to buy the useless application, generating about $5,600 in revenue for Heinrich and $2,400 for Apple, which collects 30 percent of each sale on the App Store

What a top idea. I can't believe they even managed to get 8 people to fork out.
 
I think there should be a trial period before you actually pay for it on the app store. I think that would make a lot more of them free and up the quality of the apps on there.
 
If you bothered to read my posts here and elsewhere you'll see I've regularly complimented Apple on their products, their design and their user interface. If I could be arsed, I could easily produce a long list of recent positive comments I've made about Apple but is seems you're blind to them. But let's put it to the test - can you find some posts where I've criticised, say, the iBook?

But what does irk me is how people - like you - are happy to regularly play down their nasty business practices and constantly apologise for the kind of consumer-unfriendly antics you'd be quick to condemn if it were any other company doing them.

And I find it bizarre that whenever I dare point out some of these practices, I'm immediately labelled a hater and 'anti-Apple.'

Sometimes it honestly feels like I've criticised a religion or something - just witness the way you and Moose are leaping on my lighthearted 'Herr Jobs' comment and trying desperately to infer some sort of Nazi connection.

It's pathetic, it really is. I don't hate Apple but I certainly don't like some of their business practices.

Here's a post of mine from just less than 48 hours ago. Can't you just feel the hate? :rolleyes:
But hey! Don't let your love of Apple get in the way of the facts, eh?

I havent read all of this thread but I'll back editor up on this...... Apple have an absolutely ruthless business practice..... you'll notice this if you ever take anything back to the shop (they refused to give me a replacement for a faulty item without the original packaging...... which is against trading standards) and when i went for an interview I had to spend about an hour signing secrecy forms etc (and then in the interview all we had to do was pretend to sell a bowl of fruit!??!).. Ive also heard that apple are one of the worst for the use of recycled/recyclable material. Couple all that with sneaky release tactics, and some sub standard products on release means I'm not keen on their business ethic.....

Dont get me wrong though have a G3, a mac pro, a powerbook, an iphone and an iPod....... and I'm a complete fanboy :D
 
if an poorly written ap crashes, bricks a phone etc cause it's poorly coded apple gets the flack not the so designer. The phone is shit etc etc when it's not the fault of the phone but poor coding.


I can appreciate why apple would want to quality assure out as much of that as possible.To protect rep.

The OS should be immune to the applications it runs, if its not then Apple deservedly get the flack for writing an OS that contravenes Operating System theory created in the late 60's.
 
Still has the bug switching off Wifi stops the GPS working at all, but now it tells you with a little pop up.
 
Safari crashed again in the usual annoying circumstances - typing a post. Will see how it behaves over a week or so.
 
Safari crashed again in the usual annoying circumstances - typing a post. Will see how it behaves over a week or so.

Yeah did for me as well.

I thing we might have to be looking for something like 2.5 before this gets better.

I just get this feeling that Apple are short on developers. I Unplugged my phone at 11pm and with light use it was at 1/2 power at 5am.
 
I'd suspect they don't have the dev armies of say microsoft, but the QA-devfix loop is either not working, or there was a management decision to push 2.0 out with known and common bugs/issues. The latter I suspect, perhaps trying to get a jump on Android with 3rd party app support.

Now I just hope they will continue fixing, and not bow to marketing driven pressure to focus on new features. I'd rather have a Safari that doesn't bin my words, than, say, cut and paste or MMS or video.
 
Im liking 2.1 lots.

It's fixed all sorts of lag I was getting from having so many aps.

I've gotten my responsive phone back :)
 
Yup crashed again on me, so what ever bugs they have fixed they haven't fixed the ones that have been irritating me.

I am also having some doubts on the 3g data performance after the update.
 
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