Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[editor]

Here's what Apple could have done if they put their customers first: introduce the iPhone 7 with both USB-C and a headphone jack so the transition would be less painful (and expensive). An Android phone has already done this. Now that's thinking differently!

 

[skyscraper101]

Have a chat with any DJs you know about the monumental pain in the arse it is when they forget their jack adaptor. And now Apple are making sure that everyone can join in with the fun with the added bonus of headphones that run out of battery after 5 hours. Genius!

No proper DJ uses Apple headphones. That's a non issue.

 

[Spymaster]

Here's what Apple could have done if they put their customers first: introduce the iPhone 7 with both USB-C and a headphone jack so the transition would be less painful (and expensive). An Android phone has already done this. Now that's thinking differently!

The whole point was to get rid of the 3.5 jack.

 

[sim667]

Have a chat with any DJs you know about the monumental pain in the arse it is when they forget their jack adaptor. And now Apple are making sure that everyone can join in with the fun with the added bonus of headphones that run out of battery after 5 hours. Genius!

I don't think Airpods are designed with DJ'ing in mind. Or any apple headphones to be honest.

 

[editor]

I don't think Airpods are designed with DJ'ing in mind. Or any apple headphones to be honest.

The point being with that normal wired earphones you can use anything if push to comes to shove. I once DJd off my phone earphones. Not ideal but better than looking at headphones that won't plug into anything and that will run out of juice unless constantly charged.

 

[editor]

No proper DJ uses Apple headphones. That's a non issue.

It's all about how fucking inconvenient and easy to lose/forget adaptors are, whatever you're using them for.

 

[Spymaster]

It's all about how fucking inconvenient and easy to lose/forget adaptors are, whatever you're using them for.

You are desperately trying to invent a problem that pretty much nobody will have. People who buy the i7 will either go wireless or stick adapters on all their 3.5 jacks. It's really no big deal. Anyone who is absolutely desperate to stick their old outdated plugs into their phones, and is too thick to use adapters efficiently has a myriad of other devices to choose from. Apple will survive without their business!

 

[editor]

You are desperately trying to invent a problem that pretty much nobody will have. People who buy the i7 will either go wireless or stick adapters on all their 3.5 jacks. It's really no big deal. Anyone who is absolutely desperate to stick their old outdated plugs into their phones, and is too thick to use adapters efficiently has a myriad of other devices to choose from. Apple will survive without their business!

I'm pretty sure that what most people would like is earphones that *don't* require adaptors to work with existing headphones and just about every other audio device on the planet, or constant charging to work for a short period.

 

[editor]

Yep. Definitely the way forward.

Want to listen to an iPhone 7 and charge it simultaneously? That'll be £35

 

[Spymaster]

I'm pretty sure that what most people would like is earphones that *don't* require adaptors to work with existing headphones and just about every other audio device on the planet, or constant charging to work for a short period.

How are you sure? What research have you conducted into the requirements of iPhone users?

 

[Spymaster]

Yep. Definitely the way forward.

Want to listen to an iPhone 7 and charge it simultaneously? That'll be £35

Again, who fucking cares? Really????

I'm pretty sure that I've NEVER needed to do that. Anyone who does will likely wait a few weeks until those adapters start appearing on market stalls for £2.99. Personally I can live without music for the very little time it takes to charge my phone.

You're struggling here matey!!!!

 

[editor]

How are you sure? What research have you conducted into the requirements of iPhone users?

I believe the phrase "pretty sure" makes perfect sense. But if you like, let's commission a study together and ask if people prefer expensive earphones that only last 5 hours before they have to be recharged, need a special adaptor to work with other devices and another if they want to charge the phone as they listen to music vs regular earphones.

 

[editor]

LOL.

Earth to Apple: wireless Airpod headphones are like a tampon without a string

 

[Spymaster]

But if you like, let's commission a study together and ask if people prefer expensive earphones that only last 5 hours before they have to be recharged ...

This is a complete canard. I'll be using my Sennheisers with mine and the battery last for about 12 hours which is more than enough. But If I need to plug in I'm perfectly confident in my ability to think. And adapt.

.... if they want to charge the phone as they listen to music vs regular earphones.

Dealt with. Got anything else?

 

[Spymaster]

LOL.

Earth to Apple: wireless Airpod headphones are like a tampon without a string

You're brilliant. Never change!

 

[skyscraper101]

I bet most people who use iphones, either don't use headphones at all, or will be happy using the ones which came with the phone, on that same phone. For everyone else who does use different headphones, the tiny little adaptor, provided free, just clips on at the end of your cans and you can forget about it.

I reckon that's about 99% of the iPhone market who'll now be satisfied that the iPhone 7 is not going to inconvenience their lives to any great extent.

 

[editor]

I'm convinced. And just $159 a pop! Awesome.

Apple kills the headphone jack, launches mediocre wireless earbuds, and calls it ‘courage’ | ExtremeTech

Dear Apple, this is not how you start a wireless revolution

 

[Spymaster]

I bet most people who use iphones, either don't use headphones at all, or will be happy using the ones which came with the phone, on that same phone. For everyone else who does use different headphones, the tiny little adaptor, provided free, just clips on at the end of your cans and you can forget about it.

Why doesn't Editor get this?

 

[skyscraper101]

I agree that the wireless ear pods are whack. But nobody is being forced to buy those.

I don't agree that the lightning only port is such a big problem. They made the case for it. Space is at a premium with all the components they're trying to squeeze in, and lightning port can do the same job, and better. And an adaptor is free to everyone who wants one.

 

[Spymaster]

I'm convinced. And just $159 a pop! Awesome.

Apple kills the headphone jack, launches mediocre wireless earbuds, and calls it ‘courage’ | ExtremeTech

Dear Apple, this is not how you start a wireless revolution

You know what? They're not compulsory.

Most of us already have far better equipment that'll work just fine.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I'm convinced. And just $159 a pop! Awesome.

Apple kills the headphone jack, launches mediocre wireless earbuds, and calls it ‘courage’ | ExtremeTech

Dear Apple, this is not how you start a wireless revolution

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the only people who give a fuck about this are tech blog writers. And that they don't actually give a fuck, they just need to bash out a couple of paragraphs of bullshit to meet a deadline.

 

[editor]

I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the only people who give a fuck about this are tech blog writers. And that they don't actually give a fuck, they just need to bash out a couple of paragraphs of bullshit to meet a deadline.

Try talking to some of your friends and see what they think about it. Even my friends who are arse-clenchingly pro-Apple think these adaptors (and lack of simultaneous charging) are a really fucking shit idea.

 

[Spymaster]

Of course they do!

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Try talking to some of your friends and see what they think about it. Even my friends who are arse-clenchingly pro-Apple think these adaptors (and lack of simultaneous charging) are a really fucking shit idea.

1 - place adapter on headphone cable
2 - never have to do anything else ever again

It really is that simple. It's a non issue.

The charging/playback thing is an issue. For a very small percentage of users. Solutions, however inelegant*, are available.

Literally nobody else cares. Most people will buy an iphone7, take the supplied buds out of the box and use them. Those with more money may go out and buy an alternative set, possibly even the new EarPod thingies. The world will turn, the sun will rise and not a single fuck more will be given.




*Although I've had a thought about this, as I'm one of those people. Right now, I'm sat in front of a mixing desk. My phone is attached to it for music playback, plus it's also plugged into a charger. Now, when I next go to catering I will have to unplug two cables if I want to take my phone with me, and on my return plug two back in. With that new Belkin adaptor I'd only have to unplug and plug one cable. My workplace efficiency has just doubled! Thanks Apple

 

[bi0boy]

Have you ever been abroad and and used a UK -> Foreign sockets power adapter?

I have a lamp with a standard ES fitting for light bulbs. If I wanted to fit one of my bayonet bulbs I could buy a BC->ES adapter. Isn't life wonderful?

My Samsung TV doesn't have a SCART socket. I don't care but if I did I'd use a SCART -> HDMI adapter.

My PC only has one PS/2 port. I don't care but if I did I'd use a PS/2 -> USB adapter.

Adapters are part of life as things evolve. Perhaps we should have stuck to the early days of electrical wiring and telegraphy, then we could all splice the wires together whichever way suited us.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I loathe cables. When I am using headphones on my phone, if I bend down the cable will inevitably get caught on something and rip the headphones out of my ears as I stand up. Not to mention entanglements, dodgy cables etc.

Wireless headphones should be the norm, like optical mice replaced ball mice. This move by Apple should spur more innovation in the third party wireless headphone segment so before long there will hopefully be wireless headphones that satisfy everyone bar a handful of weirdos.

This.

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[mauvais]

This.

Sent from my iPhone just to annoy Fandroids


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You're a special kind of idiot.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Just caught up with the announcements, iPhone leaves me a bit cold, but tempted by an apple watch now they're waterproofed.

I like the look of the camera on the plus. It seems that instead of a watch and a phone apple now sell a camera and fitness device....

Sent from my iPhone because it knows you want it, hard.


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[BigTom]

Again, who fucking cares? Really????

I'm pretty sure that I've NEVER needed to do that. Anyone who does will likely wait a few weeks until those adapters start appearing on market stalls for £2.99. Personally I can live without music for the very little time it takes to charge my phone.

You're struggling here matey!!!!

I charge my phone and listen to music at the same time lots, mostly because I'm also using my phone for other things as well as listening to music so the battery will only last an hour or two. My phone takes ~2hrs to charge fully from flat, I don't want to stop listening to music for that much time, or even for 20/30 min to get some charge back in, as I'm generally on a train in those situations and really want to be listening to music.
Adaptors get lost all the time ime and the lack of standard headphone jack would send me to looking for a different android phone. I mean it's not like it's a disaster (although there have been times in my previous professional life I have been unable to plug in people's macbooks into my projector because they have lost the VGA/DVI adaptor, so often that I started carrying them myself to avoid disasters). It's not like needing an adaptor is an advantage or a good thing and I'm totally unconvinced of the benefits of dropping the 3.5mm jack.

 

[Spymaster]

I charge my phone and listen to music at the same time lots, mostly because I'm also using my phone for other things as well as listening to music so the battery will only last an hour or two. My phone takes ~2hrs to charge fully from flat, I don't want to stop listening to music for that much time, or even for 20/30 min to get some charge back in, as I'm generally on a train in those situations and really want to be listening to music.
Adaptors get lost all the time ime and the lack of standard headphone jack would send me to looking for a different android phone. I mean it's not like it's a disaster (although there have been times in my previous professional life I have been unable to plug in people's macbooks into my projector because they have lost the VGA/DVI adaptor, so often that I started carrying them myself to avoid disasters). It's not like needing an adaptor is an advantage or a good thing and I'm totally unconvinced of the benefits of dropping the 3.5mm jack.

Then, Tom, don't buy an i7!

And what kind of phone have you got that takes 2 hours to charge?