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skyscraper101 said:
I bet most people who use iphones, either don't use headphones at all, or will be happy using the ones which came with the phone, on that same phone. For everyone else who does use different headphones, the tiny little adaptor, provided free, just clips on at the end of your cans and you can forget about it.

I reckon that's about 99% of the iPhone market who'll now be satisfied that the iPhone 7 is not going to inconvenience their lives to any great extent.
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No chance. Everyone I know uses the headphones, at least occasionally. Almost everyone I know replaces the apple headphones straight away, as the free ones are crap and uncomfortable. Adapters are just an other ting to lose, break, or forget, they're shit, and everyone knows it. In the medium to long term, wireless are clearly going to be the way forward, but they just aren't there yet - not enough battery life n a cheapish pair (altho 8 hours is fine for 99.9% of people), and the ones apple are showing look way too easy to lose. If you could charge them by plugging them into the lightning input, then that'll be fine as well. They should have waited till iPhone 8, really.
 
xenon said:
Is dropping phones in water that common then? Clumsy divs. ;) Done it once in 18 years. Nokia e52. It survived.
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The amount of women I know that have dumped phones down the bog when going for a piss.

Disadvantages of having a phone in your back pocket and having to pull down yer jeans to sit down for a piss.
 
belboid said:
No chance. Everyone I know uses the headphones, at least occasionally. Almost everyone I know replaces the apple headphones straight away, as the free ones are crap and uncomfortable. Adapters are just an other ting to lose, break, or forget, they're shit, and everyone knows it. In the medium to long term, wireless are clearly going to be the way forward, but they just aren't there yet - not enough battery life n a cheapish pair (altho 8 hours is fine for 99.9% of people), and the ones apple are showing look way too easy to lose. If you could charge them by plugging them into the lightning input, then that'll be fine as well. They should have waited till iPhone 8, really.
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Never used my headphones.
 
bi0boy said:
It was invented by Sony for the Walkman, prior to that people used 6.4mm jacks - I bet you'd love it if all phones had those.
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I'm not sure that's true. It was definitely on those portable fm radios you could get in the early 70s.
beesonthewhatnow said:
It does open up the possibility of better audio. Whether that happens remains to be seen.
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How though? I know you can argue that, up to the point of the speaker vibrating, it's a digital stream. But I can't see how that makes a difference. And I've never heard anyone complaining about the TRS jack (that has been around for 100 years). I know it's a cliche that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but it fits for this case. Or more accurately, if your fix adds nothing, it ain't broke.
 
souljacker said:
I'm not sure that's true. It was definitely on those portable fm radios you could get in the early 70s.


How though? I know you can argue that, up to the point of the speaker vibrating, it's a digital stream. But I can't see how that makes a difference. And I've never heard anyone complaining about the TRS jack (that has been around for 100 years). I know it's a cliche that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but it fits for this case. Or more accurately, if your fix adds nothing, it ain't broke.
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It opens up possibilities. Headphones that monitor the environment around you and apply DSP to correct the audio in real time for example.

Edit - DSP = digital signal processing
 
mauvais said:
What's funny about you? You don't add anything, you're too stupid/wilfully annoying to actually turn off your signature, and then you add another one on top of that just to piss people off.

As OU once put it, 'fuck off'.
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Oh get a life. It was just a bit of silliness and if you can't see that you're clearly a life in need of less cuntness![emoji23]

Sent from my iPhone because it's laughing at humourless sad cunts like you.


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Just giving my opinion as someone who was seriously thinking of getting one of the new iPhones - I've never had one before, but I have got a Macbook, an iPad, an iPod nano, and a £200 Apple voucher for recycling my old iMac, burning a hole in my pocket.

Personally the headphone connector issue is genuinely annoying. I like to use my own headphones, and while I know an adaptor fixes the issue, it is such an inelegant solution that it just puts me off buying something as elegant as an iPhone. I like to use my headphones on other devices (such as my work PC to watch videos silently) and having to constantly attach/unattach adaptors, while not being an absolute game breaker, is a genuine annoyance.

Additionally they've discontinued the space grey colour, which was in my opinion the most stylish version they had, with black being too boring and the other colours way too garish (for my tastes).

Finally, even with the £200 voucher, the price of £700 for a decently sized iPhone is absolutely eye watering. I know some of the top end Android phones are pretty pricey too nowadays, but I don't know if I can justify that huge an outlay, for something that just isn't pressing my buttons in the way the 6 did when it came out.

Anyone want to buy a £200 Apple voucher off me btw?
 
An S7 is £475 now, and even the Edge is £560, so that is a bit extreme. Might drop off I guess and it's partly exchange rate.

As for the voucher, I'm considering a Mac Mini for app development but someone will have had it off you by the time I get around to that :)
 
strung out said:
Personally the headphone connector issue is genuinely annoying. I like to use my own headphones, and while I know an adaptor fixes the issue, it is such an inelegant solution that it just puts me off buying something as elegant as an iPhone. I like to use my headphones on other devices (such as my work PC to watch videos silently) and having to constantly attach/unattach adaptors, while not being an absolute game breaker, is a genuine annoyance.
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This is more or less how I feel. I spend the majority of my working day hopping between Conf calls on my iPhone and Skype calls on my PC. I need to charge my phone while I talk and need to swap ear phones between the 2 devices.

As you say probably not a deal breaker but having to use adaptors when I don't have to now seems a backward step. Wasn't going to upgrade until next years 8 anyway so will see how it goes.
 
I think the main attraction here is not the argument about the merits of these easily-lost expensive headphones, but the way that Apple fans have managed to convince themselves that swapping one battery-free technology that works splendidly with just about every audio device on the planet for one that needs adaptors and constant, persistent recharging is something that has no drawbacks at all. None.
 
editor said:
swapping one battery-free technology that works splendidly with just about every audio device on the planet for one that needs adaptors and constant, persistent recharging is something that has no drawbacks at all. None.
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You could apply that to mobile telephones tbf.
 
editor said:
I think the main attraction here is not the argument about the merits of these easily-lost expensive headphones, but the way that Apple fans have managed to convince themselves that swapping one battery-free technology that works splendidly with just about every audio device on the planet for one that needs adaptors and constant, persistent recharging is something that has no drawbacks at all. None.
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The main attraction here is YOU! :D
 
bi0boy said:
You could apply that to mobile telephones tbf.
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Err, what? Smartphones introduced a shitload of genuinely useful new functionality to old school mobile phones, and recently the battery life has been improving considerably. Now tell me what amazing benefits the average user gets by switching to Apple's more expensive, proprietary technology (and having yet another thing that needs to be charged - in this case every 5 hours), and how those advantages are so immense that it's worth sacrificing the worldwide-standard, no-battery-needed wired earphones? Who the fuck wants extra adaptors? What audio gains do people get from all this?
 
editor said:
Err, what? Smartphones introduced a shitload of genuinely useful new functionality to old school mobile phones, and recently the battery life has been improving considerably. Now tell me what amazing benefits the average user gets by switching to Apple's more expensive, proprietary technology (and having yet another thing that needs to be charged - in this case every 5 hours), and how those advantages are so immense that it's worth sacrificing the worldwide-standard, no-battery-needed wired earphones?
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:facepalm: Nothing's being sacrificed.
 
editor said:
Enjoy spending your money and all that lovely recharging! And, of course, losing them!
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:facepalm: How many times do you need to be told I WON'T BE BUYING THEM!

Anyone who wishes to use the i7 wirelessly has the option of using ANY of the thousands of other, non-Apple products. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED TO USE THE AIRPODS. :facepalm:

But you're funny, so keep going!
 
Spymaster said:
:facepalm: How many times do you need to be told I WON'T BE BUYING THEM!

Anyone who wishes to use them wirelessly has the option of using ANY of the thousands of other, non-Apple products. NOBODY IS BEING FORCED TO USE THE AIRPODS. :facepalm:

But you're funny, so keep going!
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It'll be even funnier when you're on a long journey and want to do something really crazy like charge your phone while you're listening to music.
 
editor said:
It'll be even funnier when you're on a long journey and want to do something really crazy like charge your phone while you're listening to music.
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It'll be the end of my world I tell you! THE END OF MY WORLD!!!! :D

Especially if I've forgotten my adapter! :facepalm:
 
They can just change the battery. Oh hang on.

Seriously though I'm not sure why you post so much on Apple threads editor. It's obvious your not going to buy one and yet millions will.
 
UnderAnOpenSky said:
They can just change the battery. Oh hang on.

Seriously though I'm not sure why you post so much on Apple threads editor. It's obvious your not going to buy one and yet millions will.
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Actually, I had an iPhone once and I'm interested in technology. Apple have - in the past - produced some amazing stuff but it's weird seeing how some people are unable to accept any kind of criticism about their latest products. I still like to point out the obvious flaws in the company's 'courageous' (LOL) decisions though.
 
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