Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[beesonthewhatnow]

Have you seen them? No way are they going mass market in 12 months.

a) people will recognise that they look like knob heads
b) the requirement to charge them will mean they will lie flat and unused in bags as people root around for their old ones and the adapter

They look exactly the same as the old ones, just without the wire How is losing a dangling wire suddenly making someone look like a "knob head"

 

[mauvais]

This is just like a lot of other Apple stuff, the line in the sand that becomes the norm in a couple of years time. 12 months from now nobody will give a shit.

On the other hand, a lot of Apple design or product choices are a flop, but lost amongst the rest.

I dunno. I think three things:

- the specific Apple product of headphones will be a deserved failure
- adoption of wireless headphones may be a qualified success - could go either way
- removing the port will probably become unremarkable over time, though not necessarily copied

Either way it'll never reappear on iPhone.

 

[bi0boy]

Have you seen them? No way are they going mass market in 12 months.

a) people will recognise that they look like knob heads
b) the requirement to charge them will mean they will lie flat and unused in bags as people root around for their old ones and the adapter

people were supposed to look like knobheads when using smartphones with massive screens in excess of four inches.

also, no one was going to be arsed to charge their phone every day were they.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

On the other hand, a lot of Apple design or product choices are a flop, but lost amongst the rest.

I dunno. I think three things:

- the specific Apple product of headphones will be a deserved failure
- adoption of wireless headphones may be a qualified success - could go either way
- removing the port will probably become unremarkable over time, though not necessarily copied

I'm not sure they'll be a failure as such, purely because there's enough people out there you'll buy absolutely fucking anything with an Apple logo on the box

Wireless headphones have been on the rise for a while, along with portable speakers. If Apple license the easy connection tech to everyone (they'd be fucking mad not to) then that's just going to speed up the process.

Watch other manufactures follow suit on losing the 3.5mm jack. I'd put money on it.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

They look exactly the same as the old ones, just without the wire How is losing a dangling wire suddenly making someone look like a "knob head"

Like this:

 

[Cid]

people were supposed to look like knobheads when using smartphones with massive screens in excess of four inches.

also, no one was going to be arsed to charge their phone every day were they.

Saying previous things have succeeded therefore these will be the norm proves nothing really. I mean there are things that have been left behind or just aren't quite there in tech terms (apple watch for example). I'd like wireless earphones (same reasons as you), but 8 hours of continuous use basically renders them pointless for me (5 hours on the Apple ones even more so); I'd have to carry my normal earphones around anyway. Tech isn't quite there.

 

[sim667]

Just caught up with the announcements, iPhone leaves me a bit cold, but tempted by an apple watch now they're waterproofed.

 

[souljacker]

Optical mice may be the norm, but wireless mice aren't. On account of being more expensive and needing charging exactly when you don't want them to.

Unless, of course, you own an iMac. Not only is it wireless, but the charging method renders the mouse impossible to use. Whoever thought that up is a fucking tool.

 

[mauvais]

I'm not sure they'll be a failure as such, purely because there's enough people out there you'll buy absolutely fucking anything with an Apple logo on the box

Yeh, of course. Doesn't make a market though. Is Apple Watch a genuine success?

Wireless headphones have been on the rise for a while, along with portable speakers. If Apple license the easy connection tech to everyone (they'd be fucking mad not to) then that's just going to speed up the process.

Portable speakers are a totally different proposition - different use case, very different hardware and capability. Large, closed, banded headphones are somewhere in between. Wireless earbuds aren't completely novel but have a load of new problems. Battery life, battery longevity, ease of loss, lack of ease of use overall, and cost compared to alternatives for a start.

Watch other manufactures follow suit on losing the 3.5mm jack. I'd put money on it.

I wouldn't rule it out by any means, but I wouldn't be confident enough to bet on it either. Wired and wireless aren't mutually exclusive, for a start, so there's no compulsion to remove it even in the face of the things becoming popular.

 

[Cid]

I don't think they were saying that the space saving was about the battery capacity though IIRC. It was just space generally. And when the lightning port can do the same job and more, it was an inevitable move IMO.

Also I've had nuff devices with 3.5mm jack inputs that start to fail after a while, and the jack needs twisting about to get stereo to come out. My current iphone 5s is already doing this. They're imperfect connections and I won't miss it TBH.

I've had one device where the socket itself failed. Funnily enough that was also apple...

 

[Winot]

I've had every other iPhone since the 3. I think this'll be the first time I don't bother upgrading - I'm quite happy with the 6 and I'm not sure the 7 offers anything radical over that.

 

[Ranbay]

Just caught up with the announcements, iPhone leaves me a bit cold, but tempted by an apple watch now they're waterproofed.

The old one is once you update it to ISO 10

 

[discobastard]

Yeah but carrying about of a case everywhere and then the no listening while charging thing is irritating. So I'd end up carrying around a wired pair of headphones to guarantee I've got something that works. Which is even more hassle than just having one wired set of headphones.

Not to mention, big expense, easy to lose, 5 hours battery, a beacon for a mugging opportunity and they'll make you look a bit...

Yeah, but when you're packing the Wasp T12 Speechtool, who cares? It's well weapon!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Not sure anyone's mention the price, £600 for the cheapest incarnation, knocking on a grand for the big one with lots of memory...

My 6's battery is turning to shit though, can it be replaced or must I get a new phone?

 

[Ranbay]

also no 64GB? 32 not enough, 128 WAY TOO MUCH SPACE FFS

 

[skyscraper101]

128 will probably be fine for me.

So, is anyone going to pre-order the iPhone 7? Pre-orders start at 8:01am tomorrow.

I want to be able to pick one up on launch day on Sept 16th before I go to the US on 17th. What's the best method here - pre-order online and collect in store? I want to finance it too which which I did last time with the 6. But that wasn't a pre-order. Anyone done this before?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

128 will probably be fine for me.

So, is anyone going to pre-order the iPhone 7? Pre-orders start at 8:01am tomorrow.

I want to be able to pick one up on launch day on Sept 16th before I go to the US on 17th. What's the best method here - pre-order online and collect in store? I want to finance it too which which I did last time with the 6. But that wasn't a pre-order. Anyone done this before?

Why not get it in the US, they're loads cheaper there, will they not work in the UK or something?

 

[skyscraper101]

Why not get it in the US, they're loads cheaper there, will they not work in the UK or something?

Not that much cheaper when you add in the state sales tax and the exchange rate. Also I want to finance it.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Not that much cheaper when you add in the state sales tax and the exchange rate. Also I want to finance it.

£700 for the 128, that's a lot of money for a phone...

 

[skyscraper101]

£700 for the 128, that's a lot of money for a phone...

All the more reason to finance it. Works out to just under £30 a month over 24 months.

 

[xenon]

Twats. Fuck arpods. I use headphones and charge regularly. I dont need a waterproof phone. You cant use touchscreens in rain anyway.

 

[Fez909]

Watch other manufactures follow suit on losing the 3.5mm jack. I'd put money on it.

Other manufacturers have already started dropping it. The Moto Z has a USB type C adaptor only: The Moto Z doesn't have a headphone jack

 

[skyscraper101]

Jack, jack, ja jack, ja jack your body

 

[skyscraper101]

Belkin's $40 Lightning Adapter Lets You Listen to Music and Charge Your iPhone 7 at the Same Time

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Belkin's $40 Lightning Adapter Lets You Listen to Music and Charge Your iPhone 7 at the Same Time

That looks shit. Although as I'm mostly in the car listening to music and use Bluetooth, then it's not really an issue for me if the market goes this way.

 

[Spymaster]

You'll be LOLing even more when you settle in for a long journey and find you're adaptorless. LOL.

Fuck earphones that need charging every 5 hours. That's not a step forward.

Well you can stick an adapter on all of your 3.5 jacks, and nobody is making anyone buy the silly wireless buds. Bluetooth headsets will work just fine. Problems (if there were any) solved!

Let's face it, if Apple released a phone with a battery life of two years, a built in teleportation app, and a function which gave the best blow jobs in the world, you'd STILL slag it off!

 

[Cid]

Well you can stick an adapter on all of your 3.5 jacks, and nobody is making anyone buy the silly wireless buds. Bluetooth headsets will work just fine. Problems (if there were any) solved!

Let's face it, if Apple released a phone with a battery life of two years, a built in teleportation app, and a function which gave the best blow jobs in the world, you'd STILL slag it off!

'The iSteve function is both really good and incredibly disturbing'.

 

[Spymaster]

 

[skyscraper101]

Can't reserve a 7 Plus for store pickup on Sept 16 but can reserve a 7

So I go to reserve a 7 and then at checkout it says I can't finance because you can only finance on pre-orders that are delivered to you house

But you can finance on orders placed in store. But not if they're pickups for pre-orders. Agggh

Fuck Apple.

 

[editor]

Well you can stick an adapter on all of your 3.5 jacks, and nobody is making anyone buy the silly wireless buds. Bluetooth headsets will work just fine. Problems (if there were any) solved!

Have a chat with any DJs you know about the monumental pain in the arse it is when they forget their jack adaptor. And now Apple are making sure that everyone can join in with the fun with the added bonus of headphones that run out of battery after 5 hours. Genius!

Let's face it, if Apple released a phone with a battery life of two years, a built in teleportation app, and a function which gave the best blow jobs in the world, you'd STILL slag it off!

If only Apple showed some innovation like that. They used to, but now they seem more interested in profit and copying other makes.