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I think the iPhone 5s will be a splendid phone. The interface is super-slick and like just about all Apple products it will be wonderfully made. It's probably the best made phone you can buy. But there comes a time when it really is worth questioning the cost of these things.

Nothing wrong with questioning the cost - it is very high and whether it's worth going for 32GB over 16GB or for a different phone that costs 'only' £450 really is a #firstworldproblem.

However, there are a few complexities which lie behind questions of cost. For example, does any of us know how many people out there are sufficiently 'minted'? Perhaps there are even more people prepared to spend £704 on a phone than were prepared to spend £699 (from memory) on the last model (or did the iPhone 5 bomb?) Or maybe some of those 'minted' individuals are going to sell their iPhone 5 for somewhere between £420-£575 in order to trade up.

Heck, it's complicated isn't it, the economics of the high-end mobile phone market? D'you know what, after a bit of thought, I'm not sure I'm really in a position to express a strong opinion one way or the other. I just hope Apple's done some kind of research.
 
But that's just as bad, perhaps even worse. If you gave away/sold your old phones then at least the technology and materials are still in use. But I'm just as bad. I've still got my old Nokia from 1993. I'm waiting for the retro revival and then I'll be riding that wave, baby,

I know, but I just always chuck stuff in a drawer and forget about it, im a bit of a secret hoarder.
 
because I'm perfectly happy with the performance of the 4s, it's in good nick and nothing about the 5 or 5s tempts me to splash out on an upgrade yet. If IOS7 runs terribly on it that might force my hand slightly but I'm currently under the impression that shouldn't be a problem. I'll find out when I upgrade the OS!

I hear ya, I'm on the 4S but the battery life isn't what it was and that's a big deal for my line of work. My not bother updating to iOS7 until I read about the 4S users experience...
 
I use an iphone 4 on Three - I have noticed that they are offering:
Faster internet, without the hefty price tag.

We think everyone should enjoy the wonders of 4G, with no catches. So when we start rolling out 4G, we'll nudge up our customers who have a 4G Ready device at no extra cost. No hefty price tag. No extra charges. No expensive new phones or contracts. And no fuss. Great news.

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Built_for_internetting?site=d

The devil in the detail being that you have to possess a 4G compatible device before they roll out the service wherever you are in order to qualify for the 'free' upgrade. Currently pay £10/pm for a sim-only deal, so makes for a luring enticement to get a 4G-ready phone.

I would like to upgrade but can't afford or therefore justify it in the near future atm. It's all a bit meh to be honest, it may be wise to wait until spring next year to see if these fingerprint readers last in The Real World or if it will be another Antenna-gate or rather Finger-gate :eek: :hmm: ...

Eye-watering price but then again, if the camera's good enough for your needs then you won't be buying a separate digital camera and again, if you use it to listen to music then you won't be getting a separate digital music player either.
 
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I was reading somewhere the finger scans would start to fail after 500 reads or 6 months of use - golden rule of Apple applies: Never be an early adopter/wait for the update. :D
 
That would be a terrible flaw. It should stop working the day after the warranty expires like other computer kit.

If that was true that'd be a massive PR disaster waiting to happen and demonstrates they'd learned nothing from the map issues of iOS 6...
 
I don't what I was expecting but I'm disappointed with the new iPhones.

I get a new iPhone every 18 months or so and I don't expect I'll change the pattern but there is no excitement now waiting for he new iphone like I had waiting for the 3G and then the 4.

From a cost point of view it works out about €25 per month to have a new phone every 18 months and I tend to think for the amount of use I get out of it, it's pretty good value.
 
Failure after 500 reads is simply not anywhere close to a viable option. There are certain usage patterns where you could do that many scans in just a few weeks.

Apple are certainly not immune to making mistakes, but nobody would normally release a product that failed that quickly. The scanner is certainly something that may fail early in some units, but not for everyone. I think the 500 number is bullshit based on some other historical version of the technology, and the most obvious way that Apple have tried to introduce some longevity into the feature is by the use of sapphire.
 
Failure after 500 reads is simply not anywhere close to a viable option. There are certain usage patterns where you could do that many scans in just a few weeks.
Come on I read it in the Guardian its gotta be true. :D I had to back through my browser history to find where I read the 500 readings and bust comment, it was just a curious snippet that stuck with me.

...For example, a rumoured 500-scan limit "could be used up in only six months, based on users accessing multiple accounts three times a day. This would render the scanner useless for the remainder of a typical mobile phone contract, potentially 18 months," according to research by David Webber, managing director of Intelligent Environment, a specialist in the financial security field...
Guardian
 
The fingerprint reader unlocks the phone. I'd estimate 500 reads would be about 2 months for me. Probably a quicker. Gets used as an ebook reader, browser, watch, radio / podcast player, sometimes I even phone people...
 
I read an poll somewhere (can't find it now) saying something (roughly from memory) like....

20-30% of current iPhone owners want to upgrade
30%+ of Blackberry owners want to change to iPhone 5
5-20% of Android owners want to change to iPhone 5
 
It's the first iPhone I'd consider buying. The fingerprint unlock is a great idea and iOS no longer looks like a child's toy. Home screen widgets are still missing though. Having said that, I'm quite happy with my Nexus 4 which was about half the price.

I wonder if the fingerprint reader works through plastic - for example, if you have it in an armband for running.
 
I read an poll somewhere (can't find it now) saying something (roughly from memory) like....

20-30% of current iPhone owners want to upgrade
30%+ of Blackberry owners want to change to iPhone 5
5-20% of Android owners want to change to iPhone 5
When the Palm Pre was announced, I recall a poll declaring that a phenomenal amount of people saying that they were absolutely certainly 100% going to buy the thing, yes sir. These polls are bollocks.
 
It's the first iPhone I'd consider buying. The fingerprint unlock is a great idea and iOS no longer looks like a child's toy. Home screen widgets are still missing though. Having said that, I'm quite happy with my Nexus 4 which was about half the price.

I wonder if the fingerprint reader works through plastic - for example, if you have it in an armband for running.

I've never understood the point of widgets, if your apps work properly and quickly widgets become moot no?
 
I've never understood the point of widgets, if your apps work properly and quickly widgets become moot no?
You're missing the point. With widgets you don't have to keep on opening up individual apps to find out information (bus times, weather, news, twitter updates etc), and can access everything you need from the home screen. They're a brilliant idea.
 
You're missing the point. With widgets you don't have to keep on opening up individual apps to find out information (bus times, weather, news, twitter updates etc), and can access everything you need from the home screen. They're a brilliant idea.

er.... so the same as the notifications pull down on ios then.
 
I've never understood the point of widgets, if your apps work properly and quickly widgets become moot no?
A desktop is different from a mobile. Bus times, weather and calendar widgets I use all the time. I just look at my phone and can see them all at a glance.
 
A desktop is different from a mobile. Bus times, weather and calendar widgets I use all the time. I just look at my phone and can see them all at a glance.

Im not convinced id ever actually use them....

Not that it matters, there's no chance of me moving to android anyway.
 
i've got about 6 or 7, BBC News, Poweramp, Tunein, Keep, Weather etc... very exciting at first for someone who had just moved over from iOS. i don't really use them any more, other than glancing at the weather occasionally, and thats normally built into the homescreen of most phones isn't it?
 
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