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peterkro said:
Samsung appear to think it's worthwhile:
"The co-CEO implied that upcoming Samsung Galaxy-branded smartphones will be more powerful and faster by confirming that they would have 64-bit processing capability"


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2013/09/133_142604.html
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Indeed although they said it won't be for a while, I think HTC said they're going 64bit too. It's a big shift for mobile, and has some pretty interesting implications for the future of mobile computing too. Trivial this ain't.
 
An Apple rip off that doesn't effect me but manages to irritate me nonetheless is when you buy an iPhone you only get 5GB free iCloud storage. If you want 50GB it's €80 a fucking year.

I guess 5GB is more than enough for the most but for example if you want to back up the photos to iCloud from the camera they spent a whole lot of their presentation horseshitting about you're going to have to pay for it.
 
Mr Retro said:
An Apple rip off that doesn't effect me but manages to irritate me nonetheless is when you buy an iPhone you only get 5GB free iCloud storage. If you want 50GB it's €80 a fucking year.

I guess 5GB is more than enough for the most but for example if you want to back up the photos to iCloud from the camera they spent a whole lot of their presentation horseshitting about you're going to have to pay for it.
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Never heard anyone complain about it only being 5gigs tbh, if you really need more than that you use another service or pay.
 
The fingerprint sensor really has got people talking, this piece is about why it's not like the ones used on laptops previously?

Most of the concerns are only relevant to older fingerprint sensors. What we’re seeing in the iPhone -- and will see in other devices soon -- uses a new generation of technology.

Although Apple bought Authentec, who put those annoying finger-graters onto a large proportion of laptops (complete with irritating software for mapping your fingerprints to your Windows password, web site passwords, and even launching different apps by swiping different fingers), the fingerprint reader on the iPhone 5S isn't going to be like that.
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I am glad that Apple hasn't given up in the Smartphone market. I think their phones are cute little things even if they are a bit too expensive.
 
I only wish there were more players than Apple and Google making a big splash, the market really needs a third or even a third platform.
 
Apple's shares fall on emerging market concerns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24058630
Apple's shares fell more than 5% as investors worried that the firm's latest iPhone models may not help it increase its share in emerging markets.
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Even the cheap variant of the new phone is way way more money than the competing smart phones. I doubt they will sell many in China. Perhaps they don't want to.
 
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Do I understand it right, they are going to continue selling the 4 and 4S ?

I now have a 4S and it seems fine to me.
 
weltweit said:
Apple's shares fall on emerging market concerns
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24058630


Even the cheap variant of the new phone is way way more money than the competing smart phones. I doubt they will sell many in China. Perhaps they don't want to.
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Apple shares always drop after releases of whatever type.The capitalists say "buy on the rumour sell on the release".
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Indeed although they said it won't be for a while, I think HTC said they're going 64bit too. It's a big shift for mobile, and has some pretty interesting implications for the future of mobile computing too. Trivial this ain't.
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As far as users are concerned it really is trivial for some years to come. It certainly means that 64 bit won't have as protracted a birth on mobile as it did on the desktop, but in many ways so what? And even from a marketing point of view its a tad hollow for Apple in particular as so far they've decided never to dwell on the RAM spec of their iOS devices.

It's something they may as well do, but I can't think of any reasons to be at all impressed or excited about it in 2013. For many of the apps of the next few years, especially games, stuff like OpenGL ES3.0 is going to yield far more tangible improvements.
 
weltweit said:
Do I understand it right, they are going to continue selling the 4 and 4S ?

I now have a 4S and it seems fine to me.
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It is fine. The difference between the 4S and the 5 is minimal (having owned both) and the difference between each future model will be even less.
 
FridgeMagnet said:
It is fine. The difference between the 4S and the 5 is minimal (having owned both) and the difference between each future model will be even less.
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We're well into the law of diminishing returns as far as high end smartphones are concerned. Cameras can only get so good on account of the tiny sensors and lens, and CPUs are already more or less pointlessly powerful for the task in hand.
 
elbows said:
As far as users are concerned it really is trivial for some years to come. It certainly means that 64 bit won't have as protracted a birth on mobile as it did on the desktop, but in many ways so what? And even from a marketing point of view its a tad hollow for Apple in particular as so far they've decided never to dwell on the RAM spec of their iOS devices.

It's something they may as well do, but I can't think of any reasons to be at all impressed or excited about it in 2013. For many of the apps of the next few years, especially games, stuff like OpenGL ES3.0 is going to yield far more tangible improvements.
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You obviously didn't read what I said, it has implications for the future in this future users will notice.
 
A professional photographer shares his views on the new camera in iPhone 5S:

Unfortunately, cameras from many other phone companies like Samsung and Motorola simply don’t match up to the quality of images coming out of the iPhone. I’ve tried many, many different Android devices over the years which promised better images but none have delivered. The only real smartphone contender in the camera space is Nokia, which is doing some great stuff with the Lumia line. But where Nokia is pushing the pixel-count boundaries with the 41 megapixel Lumia 1020, Apple has chosen to go in a different direction.
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There's been ample comparisons between the major smartphone makers, and the general consensus is always that all have their strengths and weaknesses with no runaway leader, regardless of what this "reformed photographer" (?) says.

Sony's new camera is supposed to be a decent rival to the new Lumia, which many are touting as the best currently available.
 
Burberry to use iPhone 5S exclusively to film and shoot their London fashion show next week:

Apple and fashion retailer Burberry have announced that Burberry’s London-based fashion shownext week will be captured entirely with the new iPhone 5s. Apple’s iPhone 5s, which was announced earlier this week, includes major camera enhancements with an improved aperture, dual-LED flash, and new camera software like slow-motion and burst modes.

“iPhone 5s makes it even easier to take great photos with the world’s most popular camera,” said Greg Joswiak, Apple’s vice president of iPhone & iOS Product Marketing. “We’re thrilled to see the amazing photos and HD video Burberry has captured with the incredible all-new iSight camera.”

While the iPhone 5s will officially hit stores on Friday, September 20th, Burberry’s show is on September 16th, so they will be getting early access to the device for this special partnership.
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Was speaking with someone recently about how the BBC are using iPhone's to shoot packages more and more too.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Burberry to use iPhone 5S exclusively to film and shoot their London fashion show next week:
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As yes, Burberry. Lovely people.

I wouldn't get too excited about this minor photo shoot either - it's standard marketing practice these days for a phone manufacturer. I'm going to a Lumia 1020 event next week and they've managed to get the rather more impressive duo of Bruce Weber and David Bailey to take pictures with the phone.

And here's the kind of press it brings:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ps-using-SMARTPHONES-theres-selfie-sight.html
 
Kid_Eternity said:
You obviously didn't read what I said, it has implications for the future in this future users will notice.
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What are the interesting implications then? I struggle to find the prospect of smartphones and tablets one day having more than 4GB of RAM to be interesting, nor do I see what future implications for users are suddenly unlocked by it. Attempts to provide one in articles mostly consist of fairly meaningless drivel about the post-pc era. Hell there are still many scenarios where I don't get to make good or interesting use of more than 4GB on the desktop, so I think it will be a long time before it matters much for mobiles. Not to mention that solid state storage has somewhat reduced the performance implications of having stuff sitting waiting in ram as opposed to having to load it from storage when needed.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
One of the more interesting posts on the new 64bit chip inside the 5S:
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The following from that article is laughable bullshit that demonstrates the authors lack of understanding.

The company's development software, Xcode, will likely make 64-bit the default for developers, dispelling any fear that iOS will suddenly become a difficult OS to program for.
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Actually there are a number of issues that developers have to be aware of when targeting 64-bit, and some apps are almost bound to introduce bugs or things that actually reduce performance & increase device memory use while devs at various levels of understanding get their heads round this stuff. Compared to actually writing code, the default targets set by Xcode are a trivial part of the mix.
 
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