Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[mauvais]

Haha! Wouldn't surprise me if that's unceremoniously dumped this year...

Well, the iPod Classic lives on. It's the future of all Apple products - the slowly dwindling cash cow.

 

[elbows]

At those prices? You must be minted, sir!

Apples storage capacity costs are an ugly premium, but iPhones are hardly the only phone that costs a pretty penny. Just browsing around the o2 site at pay-as-you-go prices, not updated to reflect new iPhones yet, and the Samsung Galaxy S4 is £549 compared to £559 for the 4S 32GB and £620 for the 32GB iPhone 5. On apples own store the 5S 16GB is £549, so if storage capacity isn't a big issue for someone then I hardly think the iPhone is in a totally different universe of pricing. Certainly not to the extent that someone who really wanted one would be instantly and utterly dissuaded.

Personally, having switched to the Galaxy Nexus nearly 2 years ago after getting pissed off with Apple for slowing down my iPhone 3G too much with an iOS update, I am ready to switch back. I am rather poor at the moment so I cannot. Should a time come when I can afford it, I'll have to ask myself whether the somewhat cheaper 4S or 5C make any sense given that the 32GB 5C costs the same as the 16GB 5S. Since I don't need much storage I think the numbers may not add up, if I'm going to spend anything like £4500 for a phone I may as well get the best CPU etc available at the time since I'm certainly not someone who upgrades every year. The exception to this will be if I can find a bargain 2nd-hand iPhone 4S.

 

[mauvais]

if I'm going to spend anything like £4500 for a phone

Does it have four wheels and an engine attached?

 

[editor]

Apples storage capacity costs are an ugly premium, but iPhones are hardly the only phone that costs a pretty penny. Just browsing around the o2 site at pay-as-you-go prices, not updated to reflect new iPhones yet, and the Samsung Galaxy S4 is £549 compared to £559 for the 4S 32GB and £620 for the 32GB iPhone 5. On apples own store the 5S 16GB is £549, so if storage capacity isn't a big issue for someone then I hardly think the iPhone is in a totally different universe of pricing.

I picked up my 16GB S4 for £420 off Amazon and bought a 64GB card for £38.

So that's £458 for the S4 + 80GB of storage. Sure seems a keener deal than £709 for the 64GB iPhone 5s.

 

[sim667]

Ricoh introduced a clever system where it was possible to upgrade both the sensor and the lens in a compact camera, effectively future proofing it for decades. It didn't sell well. As long as people are happy to join in with the new-phone-every-year bandwagon, this problem isn't going away for a long time.

And yes, it is madness, and most of us are all as guilty as hell too.

*puts hands up

Not me, I recently discovered all my old phones dating back 10 years in a drawer the other day.

I still haven't binned them

(My old iPhones weren't there though, I've always sold those)

 

[editor]

Not me, I recently discovered all my old phones dating back 10 years in a drawer the other day.

But that's just as bad, perhaps even worse. If you gave away/sold your old phones then at least the technology and materials are still in use. But I'm just as bad. I've still got my old Nokia from 1993. I'm waiting for the retro revival and then I'll be riding that wave, baby,

 

[elbows]

I picked up my 16GB S4 for £420 off Amazon and bought a 64GB card for £38.

So that's £458 for the S4 + 80GB of storage. Sure seems a keener deal than £709 for the 64GB iPhone 5s.

Yes it is a better deal, Apples storage prices suck as I acknowledged.

In any case my point remains that despite the continued emphasis on premium prices, the iPhone of certain storage sizes and models is not in a completely different universe of pricing to other premium smartphones. Apple probably do some calculations to estimate what percentage of potential owners are put off by the price, and how changing the equation slightly would alter their profits. And since there are some customers who would not want to be Apple customers at almost any price, I doubt they've got it all badly wrong.

The 5C pricing does still leave me scratching my head. Perhaps it will make more sense in a year, when presumably either the price will drop or there will be a 6C and the 5C price falls to the level they are now going to sell the 8gb 4S at. Or perhaps they are leaving some room to cut the price in 6 months or something to try to boost sales at a time when they tend to drop off.

One thing I can say about the new line-up is that finally there is an iPhone at a price that starts to make some vague sense for my mum. I wasn't very keen on the iPhone 4, so now the 4S is the 'budget' model I am happier. Or at least I would be if I could afford to buy her one to replace her hideous old mobile and tired kodak compact camera.

 

[pesh]

I picked up my 16GB S4 for £420 off Amazon and bought a 64GB card for £38.

So that's £458 for the S4 + 80GB of storage. Sure seems a keener deal than £709 for the 64GB iPhone 5s.

blimey. it seems like Apple stick a premium on their phones. who knew.

 

[elbows]

blimey. it seems like Apple stick a premium on their phones. who knew.

Another side effect of a lack of innovation on Apples part. Without something genuinely new to sneer at, editors shtick is getting old. Goading people into saying they want one then sneering 'you must be minted' at them, I'm sure this isn't the first time he's pulled that one but hey, must still be entertaining himself with it so who am I to complain?

 

[elbows]

About the disgusting looks of the 5C with those Apple cases:

My god they do look hideous to me. But for some years I've been confused about modern colour 'trends'. For example I started seeing people on telly etc wearing what looked to me like the most ludicrous, cheap garish plastic glasses/sunglasses. And I started seeing things that reminded me of some luminous green socks I had in 1989. So I have to ask, whats occurring out there? At first I thought people were being ironic but now I'm just confused.

 

[editor]

Another side effect of a lack of innovation on Apples part. Without something genuinely new to sneer at, editors shtick is getting old. Goading people into saying they want one then sneering 'you must be minted' at them, I'm sure this isn't the first time he's pulled that one but hey, must still be entertaining himself with it so who am I to complain?

That's quite a dishonest spin you're putting on my comments there. Anyone who can afford £709 on a phone really is truly minted in my eyes. That's my honest opinion.

I think the iPhone 5s will be a splendid phone. The interface is super-slick and like just about all Apple products it will be wonderfully made. It's probably the best made phone you can buy. But there comes a time when it really is worth questioning the cost of these things.

 

[Crispy]

The holes on the back of the cover only partly covering up the text is baffling to me. Steve Jobs would've had a fit at whoever let that out.

 

[electroplated]

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I'm on the 4s and definitely will be waiting for the 6 or beyond unless I lose or break this one and have a cheap upgrade option

Why?

because I'm perfectly happy with the performance of the 4s, it's in good nick and nothing about the 5 or 5s tempts me to splash out on an upgrade yet. If IOS7 runs terribly on it that might force my hand slightly but I'm currently under the impression that shouldn't be a problem. I'll find out when I upgrade the OS!

 

[editor]

The holes on the back of the cover only partly covering up the text is baffling to me. Steve Jobs would've had a fit at whoever let that out.

That really is the oddest design decision. And now it spells 'non'. It looks like a cheapo third party Poundland special.

http://techcrunch.com/2013/09/10/do-i-like-the-iphone-5c-case-non/

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The holes on the back of the cover only partly covering up the text is baffling to me. Steve Jobs would've had a fit at whoever let that out.

Yeah, they look like the sort of thing you'd pick up at a motorway service station for a fiver

 

[editor]

£1 Poundland case unboxing video!

 

[pesh]

That's quite a dishonest spin you're putting on my comments there. Anyone who can afford £709 on a phone really is truly minted in my eyes. That's my honest opinion.

likewise there will be a lot of people out there to whom the idea of spending over £90 on a pair of earbuds would imply you were minted. as would spending over £450 on a new phone when you have a perfectly good phone already.

 

[elbows]

That's quite a dishonest spin you're putting on my comments there. Anyone who can afford £709 on a phone really is truly minted in my eyes. That's my honest opinion.

I don't doubt its your opinion, but I don't think my spin is dishonest. After all you are the one who leapt straight for the 64GB models price so you could start throwing a price of over £700 around. No doubt those who go for the 64GB models of Apple stuff are either well off, get work to buy it, have an important need for such capacity or have problems with budgeting or restraining their purchasing impulses. But such things were not enough to prevent my mind from going 'oh I've seen editor pull this one before' when I read your posts. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions and to voice your criticisms of Apple, I'm mostly moaning because I am bored of this, and I've been bored of it for years. It is not 2007 or 2008.

 

[editor]

likewise there will be a lot of people out there to whom the idea of spending over £90 on a pair of earbuds would imply you were minted. as would spending over £450 on a new phone when you have a perfectly good phone already.

Oh dear. This is turning into one of those 'let's try and dig up something that has nothing to do with the argument but I may be able to score a cheap personal point by mentioning it' arguments.

The iPhone 5s is - as far as I know - by far the most expensive regular consumer handset money can buy, so it's fair to say that anyone shelling out such a considerable sum won't be short in the cash department.

What people do or do not spend on headphones is gloriously irrelevant to that point.

 

[elbows]

 

[editor]

I don't doubt its your opinion, but I don't think my spin is dishonest. After all you are the one who leapt straight for the 64GB models price so you could start throwing a price of over £700 around. No doubt those who go for the 64GB models of Apple stuff are either well off, get work to buy it, have an important need for such capacity or have problems with budgeting or restraining their purchasing impulses. But such things were not enough to prevent my mind from going 'oh I've seen editor pull this one before' when I read your posts. You are perfectly entitled to your opinions and to voice your criticisms of Apple, I'm mostly moaning because I am bored of this, and I've been bored of it for years. It is not 2007 or 2008.

But you thought you'd still keep on posting up multiple times about it, and keep picking at the scab by posting up amusing videos? Nice one.

 

[elbows]

I can post a couple of times, several times a year about it, and its still a long way away from the lengthy battles of the past. I am relatively restrained these days, mostly as a result of having seen quite enough of your debating tactics and your hilarious levels of self-awareness.

 

[editor]

I can post a couple of times, several times a year about it, and its still a long way away from the lengthy battles of the past. I am relatively restrained these days, mostly as a result of having seen quite enough of your debating tactics and your hilarious levels of self-awareness.

So you thought you'd just add one more post on the topic and throw a little unpleasant ad hominem into the mix too. Great work.

 

[King Biscuit Time]

£1 Poundland case unboxing video!

I thought this was going to be a wind up, but the fellah is dead serious!

 

[mauvais]

The holes on the back of the cover only partly covering up the text is baffling to me. Steve Jobs would've had a fit at whoever let that out.

Says 'heat dissipation problem' to me.

 

[elbows]

So you thought you'd just add one more post on the topic and throw a little unpleasant ad hominem into the mix too. Great work.

There is something about the lameness of your moral high horse that makes it kinda hard to resist.

 

[editor]

This guy's not getting a bit carried away. No sir.
iOS 7's iBeacons could solve indoor mapping, make shopping better, and kill NFC

 

[editor]

There is something about the lameness of your moral high horse that makes it kinda hard to resist.

Can you just stop with the ad hominems now please? Ta.

 

[editor]

Here's a curiously downbeat video for the 5c. Ive sounds tired.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Is he 'beautifully, unapollogetically tired'?