dogmatique
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I get the same message on both - "The iTunes Store is unable to process purchases at this time. Please try again later."
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Gromit
International Man of Misery
I DL'd 2 by Edge so it must be working?
dogmatique
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For some but not all... both still fooked for me.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Its not just O2, Apple have botched the launch too, its all gone wrong stateside. Not sure if AT&T are at fault at all but Apple certainly are.
I wasted some time yesterday because a bunch of ipod touch fools were convinced the 2.0 firmware was coming out yesterday, it was kinda funny watching them creating 95 page threads and generally going nuts.
Not to mention the pathetically low stock levels. Youd think they could have done better considering how long theyve had to prepare for launch, and how long the original iphone had been out of stock.
I like these devices, but as Apple's usually slick face is scary to me, its good to see them drop a bollock here and there. Their new .me service has been up and down like a yoyo too apparently.
I wasted some time yesterday because a bunch of ipod touch fools were convinced the 2.0 firmware was coming out yesterday, it was kinda funny watching them creating 95 page threads and generally going nuts.
Not to mention the pathetically low stock levels. Youd think they could have done better considering how long theyve had to prepare for launch, and how long the original iphone had been out of stock.
I like these devices, but as Apple's usually slick face is scary to me, its good to see them drop a bollock here and there. Their new .me service has been up and down like a yoyo too apparently.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Happened to me too, for about an hour till I could connect. Too much traffic bogged them down
editor
hiraethified
There's some peeps who upgraded to their shiny new iPhone 3G from the original model and ended up with *both* phones borked because of the activation problems.
Quality.
elbows
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Mind you having just updated my ipod touch to 2.0 and tried a few apps, Id say that this platform is a massive win. Especially when more developers make good stuff, there is a lot of rubbish in the app store, as well as some quality, but Im totally sold on the platform overall.
If you dont have too many gigs of music, dont care about the phone, but love the multitouch, accelerometer and apps, I have no hesitation in recommending the ipod touch. Its great fun, I can type just as quick with the screen as a physical keyboard, and if they do devices like this with larger screens in future, then woo, they are gonna get a nice chunk of the market. Except Apples prices probably wont be too compatible with a recession.
I will put up with all of the downsides of Apple because I have more fun with their stuff, and I enjoy using it, something that was lacking in my previous decade of windows use and all the other small devices Ive wasted my money on. Today Apple has brought the opposite of fun to a lot of people, and even if they sort their servers out quickly, there will be plenty of unhappy people due to the crappy stock situation.
If you dont have too many gigs of music, dont care about the phone, but love the multitouch, accelerometer and apps, I have no hesitation in recommending the ipod touch. Its great fun, I can type just as quick with the screen as a physical keyboard, and if they do devices like this with larger screens in future, then woo, they are gonna get a nice chunk of the market. Except Apples prices probably wont be too compatible with a recession.
I will put up with all of the downsides of Apple because I have more fun with their stuff, and I enjoy using it, something that was lacking in my previous decade of windows use and all the other small devices Ive wasted my money on. Today Apple has brought the opposite of fun to a lot of people, and even if they sort their servers out quickly, there will be plenty of unhappy people due to the crappy stock situation.
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hiraethified
Don't get me wrong: I think the iPhone is a breath of fresh air and will hopefully give the likes of Microsoft an enormous kick up the arse to sort out their fucking shite usability and interface.
I think it's a great phone with a superb interface and form factor that can only keep on growing in popularity but it's the endless over the top hyperbolic squeaking that riles me, coupled with fears about Apple's proprietary practices and strongarm tactics ("don't you dare add something to our phone that we don't like else we'll brick your phone" etc etc...).
I really hope the open source Andoid OS kicks the carpet away from under Apple's feet because it would be a very bad day for all punters if Apple gained the kind of near-monopoly they currently enjoy in the MP3 player market.
elbows
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Yes I agree. Ive yet to see enough evidence to believe the competition have actually got the point about UI & usability yet though, I really hope that changes. From a platform openness point of view I was far happier with the Nokia Internet Tablet N800, that wasnt a bad device, but the touch didnt feel right.
As for bricking, to be fair I think the devices that got bricked were due to the SIM network unlocking, rather than jailbreaking to run other apps, which didnt result in bricks unless people did it wrong. All the same Id rather the application stuff was not controlled by Apple, but they are gonna make loads of money out of the app store so I doubt they will change their ways.
Considering how many years I moaned at all the techniques the mobile carriers used to try to control the content & services on the devices, and make sure they got a share of all the money, I suppose I see all this Apple stuff as progress even though its still controlfreakery. I spent some years wondering if mobile networks were even going to allow phones that had wifi too, as such things might make them obsolete one day
As for bricking, to be fair I think the devices that got bricked were due to the SIM network unlocking, rather than jailbreaking to run other apps, which didnt result in bricks unless people did it wrong. All the same Id rather the application stuff was not controlled by Apple, but they are gonna make loads of money out of the app store so I doubt they will change their ways.
Considering how many years I moaned at all the techniques the mobile carriers used to try to control the content & services on the devices, and make sure they got a share of all the money, I suppose I see all this Apple stuff as progress even though its still controlfreakery. I spent some years wondering if mobile networks were even going to allow phones that had wifi too, as such things might make them obsolete one day
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Woo someone is selling a 'worlds tiniest violin' application in the app store for 59p. I just bought it, and will play a song for Apple in their time of woe
Any good?
elbows
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Dont know yet, I got lots of apps at the same time and its taking a while to transfer them. I dont have high hopes, its not a real violin, just plays one of 3 different violin tunes to indicate insincere empathy. I paid the 59p as I think the idea deserves a few pence
My my, Some of the games that developers are expecting people to pay for look pretty ropey - Im getting flashbacks to the cascade 50 tape for the ZX Spectrum.
My my, Some of the games that developers are expecting people to pay for look pretty ropey - Im getting flashbacks to the cascade 50 tape for the ZX Spectrum.
Dont know yet, I got lots of apps at the same time and its taking a while to transfer them. I dont have high hopes, its not a real violin, just plays one of 3 different violin tunes to indicate insincere empathy. I paid the 59p as I think the idea deserves a few pence
My my, Some of the games that developers are expecting people to pay for look pretty ropey - Im getting flashbacks to the cascade 50 tape for the ZX Spectrum.
"Horace goes queuing?"
The early days of this kind of stuff will certainly mean there are some atrocities out there. In a month or two, we'll have a better idea of what's worth having. 800 apps... my guess is that there'll be perhaps 50 worth a look. Can't wait to start playing.
dogmatique
merde alors
Still can't bloody get any. I'm cursed.
elevendayempire
Registered Loofah
Grr. I have to pay six quid for the 2.0 software upgrade? Which does nothing other than allow me to pay them more money for the privilege of downloading apps? Oh, and stop the annoying "why not download Software Update 2.0" screen appearing every time I plug the iPod in. Fuckers.
I'm off to get my iPod cracked.
I'm off to get my iPod cracked.
elbows
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Yeah probably only Apple could get away with charging for a software upgrade that is necessary to be able to buy more apps from them. Its a bit crazy, I think they want to make the iphone appear to be better value than the ipod touch.
Im currently miffed because back in March I was lead to believe that there would be SVG and fullscreen support for browser, and I was going to make some webapps using these, but these features do not appear to have made it into final 2.0 release.
The worlds tiniest violin app was even worse than I anticipated. Bejeweled 2 and the itunes remote are good though.
Im currently miffed because back in March I was lead to believe that there would be SVG and fullscreen support for browser, and I was going to make some webapps using these, but these features do not appear to have made it into final 2.0 release.
The worlds tiniest violin app was even worse than I anticipated. Bejeweled 2 and the itunes remote are good though.
monsterbunny
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£6? How come? Mine was free.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Pingu
Credo
I have just been offered a 16 gig one free
no change in my tarrif or contract
all I had to do was moan a bit to O2 and say I was considering moving to vodafone
I have been with O2 though for about 15 years and obviously slotted nicely into one of their churn models
will be with me in about 3 weeks
dunno what I am going to do with it though as it wont work in my carphone and I dont like carrying a large mobile
will probably give it to mrs pingu
no change in my tarrif or contract
all I had to do was moan a bit to O2 and say I was considering moving to vodafone
I have been with O2 though for about 15 years and obviously slotted nicely into one of their churn models
will be with me in about 3 weeks
dunno what I am going to do with it though as it wont work in my carphone and I dont like carrying a large mobile
will probably give it to mrs pingu
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
I have just been offered a 16 gig one free
no change in my tarrif or contract
all I had to do was moan a bit to O2 and say I was considering moving to vodafone
I have been with O2 though for about 15 years and obviously slotted nicely into one of their churn models
will be with me in about 3 weeks
dunno what I am going to do with it though as it wont work in my carphone and I dont like carrying a large mobile
will probably give it to mrs pingu
Its not that large, its a bit larger than a normal candy bar phone, but thinner than my K800i. I was actually surprised how small it was, the pictures make it look a lot bigger than reality for some reason.
e2a: Just tried to order one as an upgrade my phone is wearing out but they don't have a queuing system. Just have to go to ring the Apple/CPW/O2 shops for stock updates.
dogmatique
merde alors
Don't bother with Apple - they can't help upgraders, only new contracts.
Worth checking the o2 stores though - seems o2 got a shitload delivered today, loads of the backlog is being cleared from the online ordering shambles from last week. Mine went from "in progress" to "completed" about an hour ago. Set for delivery on Friday apparently - even have tracking number this time.
So I'd expect stores to have stock tomorrow / thur, though how many - who knows...
Worth checking the o2 stores though - seems o2 got a shitload delivered today, loads of the backlog is being cleared from the online ordering shambles from last week. Mine went from "in progress" to "completed" about an hour ago. Set for delivery on Friday apparently - even have tracking number this time.
So I'd expect stores to have stock tomorrow / thur, though how many - who knows...
Yep. To me it's thickness that's annoying. I find that if the device is slim, it can be quite a bit 'bigger' and still not be irritating to have shoved in a jean pocket. The only downside has been numerous panics, thinking I've lost my iPhone. In contrast, the 'small' Nokia I'm using at the moment, there's no doubt that I've got it. It looks really tiny, but it's about 1.5cm thick... so I always know I've got it.
Sounds odd. Can't believe there is legislation requiring that software upgrades have to be charged for. How would all the open source stuff work?
Any more linkage on that Crispy?
edit: I should know to google these things... Looks like it's not strictly that it can't be done, but more to do with accounting practices / post Sarbox. Apparently. Haven't really googled enough to corroborate that.
dogmatique
merde alors
And US tax law surely doesn't apply to us?
It's just to make some money, surely?
It's just to make some money, surely?
It effectively applies, because the US is where the revenue ends up.
As I'm reading it: You ship a product, declare revenues from said product. You can't then start doing things that cost money (e.g. adding features), and give them away, without restating the revenues, to include the costs of those extra things. So, you can either restate revenues, or charge, so that there is no 'missing money'.
(So Apple could have done it for free, but they'd have to declare to shareholders that the original declared profits would have to be retrospectively reduced)
Post Enron Sarbanes-Oxley stuff.
As I'm reading it: You ship a product, declare revenues from said product. You can't then start doing things that cost money (e.g. adding features), and give them away, without restating the revenues, to include the costs of those extra things. So, you can either restate revenues, or charge, so that there is no 'missing money'.
(So Apple could have done it for free, but they'd have to declare to shareholders that the original declared profits would have to be retrospectively reduced)
Post Enron Sarbanes-Oxley stuff.
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