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Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

I've not said anything remotely regarding it being the best phone out there, nor even to the best of my knowledge suggested any comparison. For a start, I know nothing about any of the other handsets.

All that really matters to me is that I have a fully working handset again. Fully. :)

Tbh, I couldn't care less if you continue to post bitchy stories. I'd suggest you do, because you won't ever stop me or anyone else much buying Apple gear, but it's amusing seeing the collective seething of a few folks on the internet*. Have fun searching the blogsphere for exciting little vignettes of poor, abused users not getting what they expected. Must be hella rewarding. :D

*ie, here on Urban, not the entire internet
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Faulty if you hold it in an artificial manner. :p
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There we go again, that word doesn't mean what you think it means.

Either way it seems a far assumption that a handheld device such as a phone should be capable of functioning correctly however it is held.
 
Sunray said:
Faulty would imply that it didn't work as a phone, but even though I can easily reproduce the issue, what I can't do is stop the phone working.

This might be because of where I am.
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The tests I've seen and read about conclude that in a area of strong signal it will not drop the call, the issue occurs when in an area with less than optimal signal.
 
WWWeed said:
Given the average apple user has difficulty setting a VCR, how are they going to know about these issues unless they are told this? .
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Jesus christ, I know you've got some unhealthy obsession and bugbear about Apple and their users, but do you have to write such uninformed, random bullshit. Why the hell are you stuck in 1985 and talking about VCRs for a start? Feel free to provide some stats to back this remarkable assertion up, or frankly grow up a little.

Strangely enough some people who buy Apple are ever bit, if not more, tech adept than yourself. They may even manage to sound a little more relevant and less obsessed.

As for your last line it's laughable - we have no idea of the iphone 4's long term reliability, nor does this issue affect functionality in the vast majority of users that I've talked to, both personally and at work. Leave the moralising guesswork and inaccuracies at the door for a change, please. You come across like a right flapjack
 
stupid dogbot said:
Yawn. Dullard.

You aren't even remoted affected, but don't let that stop you having a good old moan, expressing the depth of your outrage!

As you can see, people are deeply interested in being condescended to by the likes of you. :D
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I haven't expressed any outrage - in fact, this is the first time I've commented on it :D

I was driven to by the "Ah well, it's only a phone, who cares?" comments which made me think "Er... hold on a minute."

The point stands that denying and evading faults with your product set isn't cool and shouldn't be passed off with a "Who cares?" dismissal.
 
WWWeed said:
Given the average apple user has difficulty setting a VCR, how are they going to know about these issues unless they are told this?
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Yep hence my posts about people needing to get a grip. But you know the anti apple brigade love nothing more than to complain about everything Apple does.

To be clear Apple have handled this badly, they should have just offered the bumper free with each purchase, they shouldn't be deleting all reference to the reception thing on their forums. But neither should an issue that affects a tiny proportion of the millions who own the device should be reported or commented on as if it's wide spread causing suicide provoking misery.

It's getting so silly I expect there will be calls for a UN resolution against Apple soon...
 
100% masahiko said:
Nope.
It's black but the call is still active.
I tilt the screen and the screen comes back on for a split second before disappearing again.

Oh well, more queueing in the Apple Store for this w/end.
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I'm as slow as a fish.
Tech support said it was my case, that it covered the sensor on top of the ear piece - and not the phone. He was right.

Feel stupid
 
tarannau said:
Jesus christ, I know you've got some unhealthy obsession and bugbear about Apple and their users, but do you have to write such uninformed, random bullshit. Why the hell are you stuck in 1985 and talking about VCRs for a start? Feel free to provide some stats to back this remarkable assertion up, or frankly grow up a little.

Strangely enough some people who buy Apple are ever bit, if not more, tech adept than yourself. They may even manage to sound a little more relevant and less obsessed.

As for your last line it's laughable - we have no idea of the iphone 4's long term reliability, nor does this issue affect functionality in the vast majority of users that I've talked to, both personally and at work. Leave the moralising guesswork and inaccuracies at the door for a change, please. You come across like a right flapjack
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Just because I post something you don't agree with doesn't mean its bullshit. In fact maybe you can point out what I have posted that is bullshit (other than the VCR comment obviously).

I dont feel I have unhealthy obsession and bugbear about Apple, in fact going on the number of posts in this topic I'd say you have more of an unhealthy obsession than me :rolleyes:

Pie 1 said:
Cock.
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:D:D Have I touched a nerve?

Fair enough its a cheap dig but I've had enough. Maybe I went overboard with the VCR comment :confused:

As a software developer I think I have a reason to hate them. Have a look at there draconian developer agreement.

Apple prohibits any kind of reverse engineering of the SDK or iPhone OS, including what the EFF claims are "the kinds of reverse engineering for interoperability that courts have recognized as a fair use under copyright law".

Then there's the edict that a dev cannot "disable, hack, or otherwise interfere with" not just the iPhone OS and SDK, but also "any services or other Apple software or technology". This means Apple has made efforts to prevent Apple devices from interoperating with a lot of open source software.

But wait, there's more. In the Agreement's "Limitation of Liability" section, Apple states that it can never be held liable for damages - other than those involving personal injury - that "exceed the amount of fifty dollars". In other words, if the App Store police decide to axe your app for any reason, all damages resulting from your loss of development, marketing, and other expenses can't amount to more than what the EFF calls "the cost of a nice dinner for one in Cupertino".

The runaway popularity of the iPhone and the promise of an equally game-changing iPad provide Apple with the muscle it needs to exert draconian control over developers. If you want to get aboard Apple's gravy train, you have no option other than to agree to the Agreement - and even if you follow Apple's directives to the letter, Apple may, in the words of the Agreement, "reject Your Application for distribution for any reason, even if Your Application meets the Documentation and Program Requirements".

This means I could spend 1000s of pounds and man hours developing an application only for them to reject my application without reason. And this is before we get to the design flaws that apple wont acknowledge.

The reasoning behind Apple's seeming arbitrariness and demonstrable capriciousness was explained over 30 years ago by comedienne Lily Tomlin when she lampooned "the Phone Company" with a mocking summary of their attitude to customer service: "We don't care. We don't have to."

and yes I'm sorry if I despise apple users for encouraging this behaviour by letting apple constantly shaft them.
 
WWWeed said:
Just because I post something you don't agree with doesn't mean its bullshit. In fact maybe you can point out what I have posted that is bullshit (other than the VCR comment obviously).
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In fact don't worry. It wasn't my intention to piss people off but to provide facts and let people make there own decision.

I'm not gonna read this thread any more because I'm just going to piss people off.......
 
Yeah, give us more facts like the VCR comment and talk about reliability issues, despite almost certainly having no indication of long term repair or return rates.

Facts eh. Don't deceive yourself.
 
I've been playing a few games I've got from FAAD and two have really been annoying me and are addictive as anything.

Dreamscape and Tilt to Live.

Both are great games and are well worth their sale price, esp Dreamscape. Real tube time time wasters.
 
Was Consumer Reports study flawed:

http://www.tipb.com/2010/07/13/consumer-reports-iphone-4-antenna-problem-study-flawed/
 
Greenpeace feeling the Apple love, slates Dell:

Greenpeace — the fly in the ointment for tech firms — is lauding Apple while chastising Dell this morning. The do-gooders sent out a note pointing out that, while Apple’s wildly popular iPhone’s are free of PVC plastic and brominated flame retardants (BFRs) (two nasty chemicals), Dell still hasn’t implemented its previous commitment to eliminate the two chemicals by the end of 2009.
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Kid_Eternity said:
Greenpeace feeling the Apple love, slates Dell:
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Nice selective spin there, but Apple have actually gone down in their ratings and remain in fifth place, far behind leaders Nokia, who managed to improve on their previous performance.

For the largest technology company on the planet, they're not exactly leading by example, are they?

Dell, on the other hand, have managed a substantial improvement, moving up from 14th to 10th place, and only 0.6 points behind Apple.
 
editor said:
Nice selective spin there, but Apple have actually gone down in their ratings and remain in fifth place, far behind leaders Nokia, who managed to improve on their previous performance.

For the largest technology company on the planet, they're not exactly leading by example, are they?

Dell, on the other hand, have managed a substantial improvement, moving up from 14th to 10th place, and only 0.6 points behind Apple.
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Hey I didn't write the article! I notice that Lenevo are rock bottom with Nintendo...
 
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