Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[maldwyn]

I find the screen well worth the upgrade from my 3Gs.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Anyone notice the new mobile youtube, much better than the youtube app:

http://m.youtube.com

Yeah that's very nice, using that as a webapp now instead of the main app.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Also should say great review Sunray - confirms most of what i've heard from others. A a 3GS owner with OS4 there's little point in me upgrading but for 3G owner the difference is immense.

It is a great post, in fact I'd say if it was fleshed out a bit it'd be a good one for Wirefresh (balance out the coverage of the i4 a bit too).

 

[editor]

Yeah that's very nice, using that as a webapp now instead of the main app.

If you're on an iPhone the web site is way better than the built in iPhone YouTube app.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

If you're on an iPhone the web site is way better than the built in iPhone YouTube app.

Yup. The new site is great.

 

[elbows]

My boss finally got an iphone, on orange business. I could not experiment with the reception issue as the sim hadnt been activated when I had it. He thinks he prefers the look & feel of the older iphones (although he never owned one before), and I can see what he means, I am still undecided about the new design. As expected the screen is really very nice. I remain in no particular rush to get one even though the speed of my 3G with iOS 4 is quite tedious.

 

[Sunray]

I swapped sim this morning and it took less than one minute on O2. Weird to watch 3G then 2G disappear and then the new phone start working.

 

[grit]

fuck you jobs you dirty bearded cunt.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Er, ok?

 

[grit]

Er, ok?

Soz came home drunk to find the iphone 3g im selling tomorrow has totally crashed and wont recover. So i guess it should be the phone I WAS selling but am not anymore.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Lol ok!

 

[grit]

Lol ok!

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[grit]

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[grit]

Ok I really really need to find a way to unlock an iPhone 3g.

 

[Cpatain Rbubish]

I have upgraded to iOS4 on my 3Gs without any problems but think the music volume on the iPod through earphones seems quieter, anyone else noticed/thought this? It could just be my age/imagination

I was wondering the very same thing today..!

Maybe not just my imagination then. I always have the volume on full and I'm sure the volume is now quieter after the OS upgrade

Ah, I think I sat next to you on the tube this morning.

Nope.

A. I'm at home
B. I use in ear headphones which don't leak sound and annoy other peeps

TBH The sound on my iPhone was never that loud imo hence the full volume but now it seems painfully low so I can hear outside noise above my music even full volume and in ear headphones

Anyone know if I can do anything either on the iPhone or in my iTunes library to inrease the volume on my iPhone?

Sorted out my volume issues after the iOS4 upgrade. Set iTunes to 'Sound Check' my library, did the same on my iPhone 3Gs and now volume levels are restored

 

[Sunray]

Ok I really really need to find a way to unlock an iPhone 3g.

Its O2, just go here.

http://shop.o2.co.uk/update/unlockmyiphone.html

 

[Sunray]

Sorted out my volume issues after the iOS4 upgrade. Set iTunes to 'Sound Check' my library, did the same on my iPhone 3Gs and now volume levels are restored

There is a new setting (perhaps its on the 3GS), 'volume limit' in the ipod section of the settings. You can set the max volume.

Sure that wasn't set low?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yeah checked all that, mine was off. It might just be that the phone is getting on a bit...?

 

[Vintage Paw]

All the negativity about the iPhone 4 there has been something missing from many of the reviews I've read and the impression I have of this phone now I own one. It was pretty easy to get, I just saw a sign in the Tottenham court road branch of carphone warehouse saying they were available. When I asked they said they had sold all the stock they had but they were getting some more on Wednesday and I could have one of those if I wanted. I reckon the Apple store in Regent st has a daily consignment.

As an owner of a 3G from the start together with all the current negativity surrounding this phone I had forgotten quite how much of an upgrade the 4 is from a 3G. Lets say this straight, this is an utterly awesome gadget.

It looks amazing, the design is a lovely rework of what has become an iconic device. The screen is insane. I can clearly read urban fully zoomed in portrait. The maps look amazing. The colours are rich and the black is so black, in shadow its hard to tell the screen from the bezel even when its on. The glass does not pick up finger prints like the 3G although its not totally immune. I'm undecided if I want to put a screen protector on it yet.

Then there are all the little upgrades that iOS4 brings and the ones that were on the 3GS like the compass, the voice control...'what is the time'.... and the speed. Not many realise that the 3GS introduced some solid universal access (accessibility) features. Things like 3 finger hold to zoom the icons to 2x2 for instance.

Crikey its so so much faster than a 3G. People forget that the 3G originally came with what was a pretty basic OS and it got roundly criticised for lacking features. But the features it had worked and worked well. Time has moved on and iOS4 compared to v2.0? Different game and the 3G was starting to wheeze at what it was being asked to do. The iPhone 4 on the other hand is so silky smooth in operation it makes oil look rough.

Multi tasking seems to work well, not many apps support it right now see how it goes.

Loving the app grouping, 6-7 pages of apps was really getting cumbersome.

I can see that it might get damaged if you were to drop it at an angle onto something hard. Simple answer is don't. For the more clumsy, I have no doubt that a plethora of covers are being churned out in China as I am typing this.

The ease of which I just moved all my data from my old phone to the new one shows that iTunes is better than some make out. e.g. I plugged the new phone in and it asked if I wanted to copy all my data to it. Though Apple should really make it a proper Windows application...

The box is even smaller than the last one, which was pretty minimalist. The PSU is stupid tiny, so little waste there. Not universal like the last one though, purely a UK PSU, I think it says 100-240v, its so tiny I can't read it so work with a converter of your choice.

Thanks so much for that review. My current phone is a 3G, and I've got a 4 coming from the Apple store. (It's apparently been dispatched, but only to 'merge in transit' with the bumper, and I don't have proper tracking info yet.)

Can someone explain to me what the different reception symbols mean please? 3G clearly means 3G, E means Edge, what does ° mean? Is that 2G when 3G drops out? I get solid 3G upstairs in my house, but downstairs it often drops to °. I only get E at certain points when on the train between Stoke and Derby where it all be countryside

 

[paolo]

what does ° mean? Is that 2G when 3G drops out?

Yep. Basic GPRS.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I'm at the point of demanding a 3gs replacement for my 4 now I'm fucking livid with the way it drops calls it's now after the last o2 carrier update it's now doing the sodding hang up mute face time bollocks...

It's getting more crippled by the week in terms of it's use as a phone it's a great gadget it's such a shit phone and tbh I'm not happy to use a gadget for it's gadgetness if the fundamental part (you know the phone in iPhone) isn't working I could have got a new touch if I'd wanted a new gadget...

 

[maldwyn]

The iphone4 aerial issue has become so exaggerated its become folklore, I've began to use the excuse of dropped calls to my advantage, particularly when talking to my bosses.

I can recreate the 'death grip' on my iP4 and it's now lessened with the bumper, but I feel some of my difficulties are due to o2's coverage. When I have a strong signal I have fewer problems.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The iphone4 aerial issue has become so exaggerated its become folklore, I've began to use the excuse of dropped calls to my advantage, particularly when talking to my bosses.

I can recreate the 'death grip' on my iP4 and it's now lessened with the bumper, but I feel some of my difficulties are due to o2's coverage. When I have a strong signal I have fewer problems.

Out of the 1 million or so units sold how many have had this problem? Very few from what I can tell so yeah the press have little else to write about with Apple so they're writing about this. Wouldn't surprise if the leak about the new touch pad thing is designed to move the conversation onto something else tbh...

E2A:

Producing speculation like this:

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Out of the 1 million or so units sold how many have had this problem? Very few from what I can tell so yeah the press have little else to write about with Apple so they're writing about this. Wouldn't surprise if the leak about the new touch pad thing is designed to move the conversation onto something else tbh...

E2A:

Producing speculation like this:

if however you have the problem it's infuriating and in no way exagerated as both phones are doing this and neither of the previous generations did it then it's a problem...

but hey if you don't have it feel free to gloat...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

if however you have the problem it's infuriating and in no way exagerated as both phones are doing this and neither of the previous generations did it then it's a problem...

but hey if you don't have it feel free to gloat...

Who's gloating? I'm just saying the noise over this isn't proportionate to the reality. I'm sorry to hear you're having problems, I know you're a real tech guy but shouting bloody murder about it on the internet aint really going to do much for you is it?

 

[pootle]

I think the ifonefour is a marvellous, marvellous thing.
If it wasn't for the ifonefour I wouldn't have a lovely 3g. I know I'm a bit late to the party but Jesus and the mary chain! Is this the best thing ever invented or what? An iPod with a phone? And an iPod with a phone with the internet? All in my pocket? Why did no one tell me about this sooner?

Btw this is my 1st posting from my ipizzle. Thought it was only right it should be here!

 

[editor]

The iphone4 aerial issue has become so exaggerated its become folklore, I've began to use the excuse of dropped calls to my advantage, particularly when talking to my bosses.

I can recreate the 'death grip' on my iP4 and it's now lessened with the bumper, but I feel some of my difficulties are due to o2's coverage. When I have a strong signal I have fewer problems.

I had no problem reducing the coverage on Sunray's iPhone 4 from three bars to zero with a quick bit of death-grippery.

It's still a really lovely phone and I think that if Jobs had just said from the start: "alright we fucked this up a little bit but it's not a massive thing and we'll throw in a free bumper for anyone having problems" I think it would have got far less of a reaction.

Sadly, Jobs doesn't generally "do" apologies or admit to a flawed design.

 

[Reno]

I've been trailing a few pages back, but as a newby I can't find much of an introduction.

Anyway, I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting an iPhone 4. It's the lomo app that finally convinced me. All I've ever had is a cheapo pay-as-you-go mobile, so I don't know anything about contracts.

I'm not a heavy phone user, so I'm thinking of getting a £25 contract from Orange. Is that the best way to do it ? Any advice ?

 

[editor]

Anyway, I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting an iPhone 4. It's the lomo app that finally convinced me.

FYI, the Lomo app works on the iPhone 3G/S too so you could save yourself a few quid and pick up an older model - or you could consider getting an Android phone as there's Lomo-like apps available on that platform too.

 

[Vintage Paw]

What ed said, Reno. There are still loads of lomo-style apps available for the 3G/3GS, and the price has dropped on those handsets now. You're not going to get the flash, but having used the 3G camera for 18 months I've not really missed it. I'd go for the 3GS over the 3G, mainly because of the improved camera, and because you'll have better luck running iOS4 (allegedly terrible on the 3G, I haven't upgraded mine to it because of it).

If you're prepared to buy the handset outright, then you can get cheaper contracts, or indeed use PAYG. You also won't need to be tied into a longer contract, as O2 does 12 month or rolling 1 month contracts for the iPhone, and I'm sure other carriers must do something similar.

Saying that, the thing I'm most looking forward to when my iP4 comes (hopefully next week) is the camera. It'll be a substantial upgrade from my 3G, and there are already a couple of nifty new camera apps that only work with the iP4 (like http://incredibooth.com/ from the makers of Hipstamatic).

In terms of good photo apps, I've got loads, and many do similar things. In terms of 'lomo', there is Hipstamatic, which produces a good variety of different, retro styles. An oldy but a goody is CameraBag. Yesterday I stumbled across 2 really fabulous ones for the first time: Plastic Bullet - which randomly produces 4 lomo-esque versions of your picture for you to choose from, and if you don't like them you just reload a new 4. And Photo FX, which is just WOW. There are loads and loads of filters to choose from, and you can build them up like layers, and control the amount of each one. Another great app is Lo-Mob, which produces maybe 20-25 different lo-fi versions of your picture to choose from. All these work great on my 3G.