Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[Callum91]

In other news, I have just discovered what I suppose I should have guessed, namely that the new iPhone doesn't fit in the old iPhone dock

Shock horror. I'm surprised Apple didn't invent their own brand of electricity to charge the damn thing.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Not even really sure what I was on about there to be quite honest.

I'm finding that my phone is turning itself off with a much higher battery life than it used to with OS4. Before you could keep going down to just a few percent. Now, around 20%, bang that's your lot. Which is annoying.

 

[grit]

Not even really sure what I was on about there to be quite honest.

I'm finding that my phone is turning itself off with a much higher battery life than it used to with OS4. Before you could keep going down to just a few percent. Now, around 20%, bang that's your lot. Which is annoying.

Condition the battery.

 

[Piers Gibbon]

In other news, I have just discovered what I suppose I should have guessed, namely that the new iPhone doesn't fit in the old iPhone dock

now this really annoys me - I just bought a new panasonic shaver that is a mild upgrade to the previous model..and the charger is exactly the same - apart from a stupid new flange to stop me using the old one... grrrrr

given that you get a new charger with the new shaver - and they aren't interested in selling spare chargers - can anyone explain what advantage this kind of behaviour has for manufacturers?

At least my macbook/and pro chargers all work with each other

 

[ChrisFilter]

Condition the battery.

You can't condition a lithium battery.... why it works on the Desire I don't know.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It occurred immediately after upgrading to OS4, and it never happened before OS4. Which means one or more of:

1. OS4 deliberately turns the battery off much earlier than 3 did;
2. OS4 is reporting my battery % wrong, and is showing 20% when actually it should be 1%, but legitimately turning the phone off when it's nearly out of charge (seems unlikely as it takes about the same time to get down to 20% as before);
3. OS3 was showing my battery % wrong, and both OS versions try to turn the phone off when it has low but not almost zero charge (seems very unlikely as there are two low battery alerts, one at 20% and one at 10%);
4. I dunno, some weird bug or something.

I could do a software restore from before upgrading I suppose but that would be a pain.

 

[grit]

You can't condition a lithium battery.... why it works on the Desire I don't know.

Its probably not actually the battery thats being conditioned but the old thing of doing full charges and completely emptying the battery (several times in a row), provides a far more accurate read on battery state that might help resolve the issue.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

It occurred immediately after upgrading to OS4, and it never happened before OS4. Which means one or more of:

1. OS4 deliberately turns the battery off much earlier than 3 did;
2. OS4 is reporting my battery % wrong, and is showing 20% when actually it should be 1%, but legitimately turning the phone off when it's nearly out of charge (seems unlikely as it takes about the same time to get down to 20% as before);
3. OS3 was showing my battery % wrong, and both OS versions try to turn the phone off when it has low but not almost zero charge (seems very unlikely as there are two low battery alerts, one at 20% and one at 10%);
4. I dunno, some weird bug or something.

I could do a software restore from before upgrading I suppose but that would be a pain.

the 4 has significantly less battery life than the 3g as well... 1 call longer than 10 mins will trash the battery to buggery too...

 

[stupid dogbot]

What you changing it for, then?

 

[maldwyn]

the 4 has significantly less battery life than the 3g as well... 1 call longer than 10 mins will trash the battery to buggery too...

Really? I'm only needing to charge my iP4 once every two days. whereas my 3gs was once a day.

 

[dogmatique]

General opinion seems to be that the iphone 4 battery is about 20% better than the 3GS... Only going on anecdotal evidence though...

 

[editor]

General opinion seems to be that the iphone 4 battery is about 20% better than the 3GS... Only going on anecdotal evidence though...

Well it's physically 16% bigger so that would be about right.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

The question is then how much more power it uses. I'd not expect that to be 20% though to be fair, unless you use the flash a lot.

 

[Callum91]

If the battery is 16% bigger and it uses 20% more power , what's the point in it?

 

[ChrisFilter]

If the battery is 16% bigger and it uses 20% more power , what's the point in it?

To keep battery life roughly in line with the 3GS, obviously.

 

[Callum91]

To keep battery life roughly in line with the 3GS, obviously.

Why not just get a 3GS then? The iPhone 4 is hardly ''revolutionary'' enough to really warrant an upgrade. Retina is nice but not THAT nice.

 

[ChrisFilter]

Why not just get a 3GS then? The iPhone 4 is hardly ''revolutionary'' enough to really warrant an upgrade. Retina is nice but not THAT nice.

Well, that's a fair point, but the 4G was never sold on superior battery life.

 

[Callum91]

Well, that's a fair point, but the 4G was never sold on superior battery life.

What is it sold on then? Personally I'm struggling to see what Apple were really wanting to achieve with the iPhone 4. Seems a tad rushed.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

There's a lot more difference between the 4 and the 3GS than there was between the 3GS and the 3G. I'd definitely go for one were I in the position of buying a new phone.

 

[editor]

The inevitable class action lawsuit seems to rumbling on the horizon in the US. Is there nothing they won't try and sue for over there?
http://mashable.com/2010/06/28/iphone-4-lawsuit

 

[maldwyn]

The inevitable class action lawsuit seems to rumbling on the horizon in the US. Is there nothing they won't try and sue for over there?
http://mashable.com/2010/06/28/iphone-4-lawsuit

Perhaps they don't have the 14 day no quibble return like wot we do.

 

[editor]

Looks like there might be issues with the proximity sensor too:

"Another Apple iPhone 4 flaw: A glitchy proximity sensor
Many users report the new handset's proximity sensor is causing the screen to activate during phone calls."
http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?olo=rss&NewsID=3228505

Apple thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2475509&start=0&tstart=0

So glad I found this thread. I thought I was going crazy. In a 20 min call to my parents I muted them twice, initiated Facetime once, started dialing other numbers numerous times and hung up on them twice. Thank goodness they were understanding.

My ear has initiated some "feature" in every call I have made so far. While I love the capabilities the apps give me, I bought this primarily as a phone and it isn't cutting it. I have tried resetting the phone and that didn't change anything

 

[Callum91]

Looks like there might be issues with the proximity sensor too:

"Another Apple iPhone 4 flaw: A glitchy proximity sensor
Many users report the new handset's proximity sensor is causing the screen to activate during phone calls."
http://www.macworld.co.uk/ipod-itunes/news/index.cfm?olo=rss&NewsID=3228505

Apple thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2475509&start=0&tstart=0

Glad I chose to go for the HTC Desire. All praise Android!

 

[fen_boy]

Hasn't done the proximity thing to me at all.

Thought I had a problem with Wi-Fi speed this morning, I was getting 512Kb where as the wife was getting 7800Kb on her 3GS. But, at work the speed is fine. I think it's more than likely my o2 router playing silly buggers.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I am spending too much time playing Godfinger

 

[Sunray]

I had a play with an iPhone 4 over the weekend.

I like the redesign a lot (although it curiously makes it feel a bit chunkier in the hand than the 3GS) and the new screen was very nice - but nowhere near nice as I was expecting. Maybe that's because I've got used to the HTC Desire's screen?

The camera was a huge improvement on the 3GS - the LED light is a *massive* improvement - but, again, there didn't seem much difference in quality to my HTC and I'm not sure if I'd be rushing out to upgrade if I still had my iPhone.

Oh, and I had no problem reproducing the dodgy antennae issue, and that was when handling the phone in a normal way.

That display will only make a difference for applications that use it. Its precisely double the resolution because it allows existing applications to work.

The biggest thing for me as a 3G owner is the improved speed. The 3G is quite slow.

This also sounds like the 3G release all over again, annoying issues here and there. The sorted them out in a few months.

I can't get one for the time being, my 3G is just fine as it is, so I'll leave v3 on it till some of the issues get ironed out.

 

[editor]

It won't be online for long, but the inevitable 'Hitler Reacts to the iPhone 4 Antenna Issues' video has been released.
It's quite a funny one too:

Here's what's claimed to be the official line about the exact procedures AppleCare reps must follow when dealing with any reception complaints regarding the iPhone 4:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...-iphone-4-antenna-troubleshooting-procedures/

And it looks like no more free bumpers:

Interestingly, they agree that bumpers might fix the problem, but they're emphatic in saying that they "ARE NOT appeasing customers with free bumpers – DON'T promise a free bumper to customers." And yes, that statement is complete with caps and bold in the source document, so they mean business, it would seem.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/29/apple-telling-reps-to-smooth-over-iphone-4-reception-complaints/

 

[stupid dogbot]

Mine'll be here Friday. Yay.

 

[Ranbay]

 

[WWWeed]

Here's what's claimed to be the official line about the exact procedures AppleCare reps must follow when dealing with any reception complaints regarding the iPhone 4:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...-iphone-4-antenna-troubleshooting-procedures/

And it looks like no more free bumpers:

If that is true then that is outrageous!

I swear this is starting to get ridiculous now.

FRUIT LOGO TOYMAKER Apple's Iphone for right-handed people seems to have yet another flaw.

Apparently coming up with a phone that disconnects you from your provider when you use it in your left hand is not enough. It seems that Apple's geniuses forgot to test the Imovie software.

You would think that sending a picture on software called Imovie would be a stroll in the park, but apparently not. In fact Apple has made Imovie on the Iphone 4 about as useful as an English mid-field defence.

According to Apple's help files the problem is caused by people who insist on looking at photos that are a little too complex for the Iphone 4's tiny $10 chip.

The support site said that the some photos will cause Imovie to quit while exporting images.

Full-size images taken from the rear facing Iphone 4 camera will result in this problem more commonly than with older Iphone 3GS pictures, or pictures that have been synced from Iphoto via Itunes, the company said.

Imovie might bug out while exporting a project with as few as 12 to 15 photos, depending on the size of the photos.

Apple's advice is that if its Imovie quits while exporting, export your project to a smaller size or remove still images from your project and try exporting again.

In other words think smaller. The Iphone 4 really is becoming the communication toy of broken dreams and at this rate should be remarketed as the Iphone Flaw. If Apple renames it that, Steve Jobs' fanbois will probably queue for it thinking it is a new model. µ

taken from http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1719875/another-iphone