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Kanda said:
Considering you've been able to touch radio or tv antennas for decades and affect signal, I'm surprised at peoples surprise... :)
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I think people are more surprised that a company as big as Apple should make such a schoolboy error, to be honest.
 
editor said:
I think people are more surprised that a company as big as Apple should make such a schoolboy error, to be honest.
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True. I've held off so far but played with a few and not been able to re-create it, so mine now arrives tomorrow... I'll keep you updated. (I'm left handed :))
 
Kanda said:
True. I've held off so far but played with a few and not been able to re-create it, so mine now arrives tomorrow... I'll keep you updated. (I'm left handed :))
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I had a go on an iPhone 4 on the weekend and had no problem recreating the problem.

I don't think it's a deal-buster though - if I really wanted a new iPhone I'd still go out and buy one and maybe fork out for one of those daft 'bumpers' - although I'd probably be a little bit miffed by Steve Jobs' arrogant attitude over the whole thing.

But Apple fans tend to be a forgiving lot anyway so I doubt if it's going to affect sales too much regardless.
 
Interesting piece from a bloke in Cardiff University that seems to further expose the dodginess of Apple's policy of denying there's a problem:
Richard Gaywood—Ph.D in wireless network planning from Cardiff University—has tested the iPhone 4 communications problem. Before, he thought there were no problems. Now, his conclusion is clear: "The iPhone 4 is a fantastic device but a lousy phone."

...The resulting data was clear under both situations: There is a performance penalty when you hold your iPhone with your bare hand, independently of the bars displayed. When the signal is very strong, the impact is less noticeable. When the signal is weaker (chart above), the problem could stop communications altogether, like have been demonstrated already for both internet access and voice calls.
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Ahh, I see the issue, because the aerial is metal, your hand is earthing the thing to some degree, thats why the bumper thing they offer works like it does. I wonder if your choice of footwear has any bearing?

The solution is simple, just use the headphones and the problem goes away. I generally do over holding it anyway.
 
Fixed my slow wifi problem by switching my router to work in g mode rather than b/g/n - probably a software problem on the iphone, but the workaround is fine for me as all my wireless devices are g anyway. e2a I guess it could also be a problem with the o2 wireless iii router.
 
Decision time:

Do I return my IP4 (within the no quibble return 14 day window) get a refund and wait for iP4s or go for a replacement in the hope it solves my aerial issues (unlikely as it's probably a design issue).

I'm using the bumper and it seems to help if I have a strong signal to start with, but anything less than 3 bars and I'm still cut off.

I text a lot so restricting myself to headphones isn't a solution.

The person I call the most also has an iP4 so unless we both are holding our phones correctly it's double the chance of being disconnected. :D

Apple's silence on the issue isn't helping. :facepalm:

Oh, the angst of it :oops:
 
I wonder if they will spray the metal band with a glossy plastic or something like that?

I'm sticking with my v3 OS 3G for the time being, its rock solid.
 
Sunray said:
The solution is simple, just use the headphones and the problem goes away.
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That's not a practical solution - that's a ridiculous bodge for the vast majority of users who don't use headphones, nor want to have to stick them on just to make a ruddy call.

Meanwhile, the first of the inevitable class action suits has been filed against Apple in the US: http://gizmodo.com/5577010/
 
I was tempted to upgrade early but TBH OS4 on my 3GS is working just fine and improved minor niggles so I think i'll stick with it until my contract is up then see what's available (Apple and non-Apple).
 
just had a go on one... rather nice and quick etc.. the folders are cool...

wont be getting one tho.... sticking with my 3G as it's jailborked etc... ;)
 
maldwyn said:
Decision time:

Do I return my IP4 (within the no quibble return 14 day window) get a refund and wait for iP4s or go for a replacement in the hope it solves my aerial issues (unlikely as it's probably a design issue).

I'm using the bumper and it seems to help if I have a strong signal to start with, but anything less than 3 bars and I'm still cut off.

I text a lot so restricting myself to headphones isn't a solution.

The person I call the most also has an iP4 so unless we both are holding our phones correctly it's double the chance of being disconnected. :D

Apple's silence on the issue isn't helping. :facepalm:

Oh, the angst of it :oops:
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Why not stop being an Apple wanker, take refund and get yourself a HTC desire or Samsung galaxy s for much cheaper and on a better contract?
 
Well I'm still arguing the toss with HTC over my broken phone (after only 1 month). I contacted them first on the 17th and am still waiting for a resolution.

My collegue has also had problems with hers where it won't charge via the cable.

All this has made me wish I'd stuck with Apple despite the iPhone 4's reported issues.
 
revol68 said:
Why not stop being an Apple wanker, take refund and get yourself a HTC desire or Samsung galaxy s for much cheaper and on a better contract?
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I like the Android platform and the HTC Desire looks to be a good phone - it's not massively cheaper (£100?) and at the moment I'm contract phobic.

The reason I'm such a "Apple wanker" is their accessibility - in my case, I'm partially sighted - few companies can match them on this.

I actually really like the iP4 and as a device it's ace, but it's actually a phone I need and on that score, at the moment, it's simply not delivering.
 
Gromit said:
My collegue has also had problems with hers where it won't charge via the cable.
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Does it charge from the mains charger? If so, it's most likely the PC at fault.

(Please respond in the HTC Desire thread to avoid going too far off topic here!)
 
Winot said:
In other news, I have just discovered what I suppose I should have guessed, namely that the new iPhone doesn't fit in the old iPhone dock :mad:
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Turns out the iPhone 4 fits nicely in my old white iPod charger. I get a notification saying that it's not optimised for the iPhone and there may be cellular interference etc. but I think I can live with that.
 
maldwyn said:
The reason I'm such a "Apple wanker" is their accessibility - in my case, I'm partially sighted - few companies can match them on this.
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There's a zoom function on the iphone if you do a treble fingered tap or something isnt there?

I remember doing it toe mine by mistake, then not knowing how to get it out of zoom.
 
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