Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[Sunray]

If iPhone users were offered a Flash plug in right now, how many do you think would download it?

None (according to stupid dogbot's 'poll') or millions of users keen to access the full web content and the thousands of free games on their handset?

Everyone would consider it, and as Safari is so basic on the iPhone I'd pass.

If I could have it configured to run on more fine grained settings like I can on a proper browser, then I'd consider it.

 

[tarannau]

That is essentially what's happening tbh. But it's a lot more than one 'sales droid,' including some far more senior droids who pushed the case.

Too many IT departments are far too obstructive and complacent tbh, using terms like 'droid' to denote users. A little caution is of course understandable, but often it's about an unwillingness to look beyond the current MS certified setups imo

 

[grit]

Too many IT departments are far too obstructive and complacent tbh, using terms like 'droid' to denote users. A little caution is of course understandable, but often it's about an unwillingness to look beyond the current MS certified setups imo

Its not that simple, ultimately IT are carrying out managements instructions on hot the infrastructure is supposed to be used. In general a valid business case and capex (if required) needs to be submitted for something to be considered. If it has genuine benefits to the business and the money is there it will be approved, if not, it wont.

Users shouldn't expect a say on how the services are provided.

 

[tarannau]

Of course they should, and I say that as an IT bod atm (albeit Deployment side)

Business cases aren't black and white, as you well know, and too many IT departments have historically all too often lacked the expertise, knowledge and willingness to build accurate cost and TCO projections to entertain alternatives to their existing setups.

Users - and particularly the SMT here - have driven wider iphone adoption here. I suspect the IT would have dragged their feet far more if they weren't leaned on quite significantly

 

[Badgers]

I use mine for work and personal. All I need is email really although I do keep some documents on it. If I had to have a seperate business phone I would probably get a Blackberry.

 

[editor]

The lack of an integrated inbox on the iPhone drives me mad, so roll on OS v4. I like Blackberries too, but doubt if I'll ever get one.

 

[Kanda]

II departments should listen to their users. Its a balancing act, unfortunately one I have not been able to pull off often in my role due to silly management.

This is a bit of an old school approach. IT depts should listen to the needs of the business and see how they can adapt or improve their services in accordance with those needs. Not listening to users??? Bonkers these days.

 

[editor]

Good piece about the hypocrisy of both Apple and Adobe as they try to 'out-open' each other:

One can’t help but laugh that two of the most historically closed companies in technology are now in a proverbial pissing match over which company has embraced openness more.

People that know me know that I’m in favor of calling a spade a spade, so let me be clear: Apple and Adobe’s use of terms like “open market,” “freedom,” and “choice” are completely dishonest and mendacious. Claiming openness as a virtue in this debate is disingenuous on the part of both companies, and arguments about the technologies in question can stand on their own without “open” muddying the waters.

Both Companies Are Only Open When it Benefits Them

Apple and Adobe want to talk about the importance of being open, adhering to standards and offering developers grand ideals about things like “freedom” and “choice.” But when it comes down to it, each company is only open when being open benefits the company itself.

I’m not criticizing that decision; the choice to support “open” on the basis of business and not idelogy makes perfect sense to me. It’s actually what most companies — even those that invest much more in open source tech than Apple and Adobe combined — choose to do.

However, it is utterly laughable for either company to argue from an ideological position about the power of being open. It’s ludicrous, and it just doesn’t meld with reality.

http://mashable.com/2010/05/13/adobe-apple-open/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The lack of an integrated inbox on the iPhone drives me mad, so roll on OS v4. I like Blackberries too, but doubt if I'll ever get one.

Too true that and only being able to have one exchange account...blasted annoying.

 

[elbows]

Too true that and only being able to have one exchange account...blasted annoying.

I think thats fixed in OS 4 too.

 

[grit]

Not listening to users??? Bonkers these days.

No its their requests that are bonkers..

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I think thats fixed in OS 4 too.

It is, cannot wait for 4.0...

 

[paolo]

One thing I find completely infuriating is not being able to search my mail in the same way as I can in gmail native. i.e. just put a search term in and it searches *all* your mail.

I suspect that IMAP and/or Exchange protocols don't support it, but it's still annoying. We need better client-server protocols. It's a massive annoyance for me.

 

[editor]

Horray! Steve Jobs is bringing us "Freedom from porn"!

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/357979/jobs-ipad-brings-freedom-from-porn

 

[stupid dogbot]

I thought we'd already decided that holding the iPad in one hand was uncomfortable, anyway?

 

[ChrisFilter]

I don't want freedom from porn. I want porn enslavery

 

[Kanda]

I thought we'd already decided that holding the iPad in one hand was uncomfortable, anyway?

We might as well merge the iPad and iPhone threads if all we're gonna get is duplicate posts covering the same stuff all the time

 

[Crispy]

Porn is alive and well in Safari and there's fuck all steve can do about it

 

[stupid dogbot]

I don't want freedom from porn. I want porn enslavery

You want to be enslaved by a porno-enabled mobile communications device?

You know what's coming, don't you?

PERVERT!!

 

[ChrisFilter]

What else is a mobile browser for, other than porn on the go? Apps schmapps.

 

[stupid dogbot]

What else is a mobile browser for, other than porn on the go? Apps schmapps.

If the schoolkids on the back of the buses I used to catch are any guide, nowt.

 

[Kanda]

Porn is alive and well in Safari and there's fuck all steve can do about it

Doesn't stop people kicking up a stink about a non-issue

 

[editor]

Doesn't stop people kicking up a stink about a non-issue

If you make your living as a developer and you've just had your app booted off the AppStore because of delicate Steve's arbitrary censorship policies it may be a little bit of an issue, you know.

Btw: am I going mad or has the iPad thread disappeared?

 

[Lazy Llama]

Btw: am I going mad or has the iPad thread disappeared?

Mad - http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312721&page=55

 

[Kanda]

If you make your living as a developer and you've just had your app booted off the AppStore because of delicate Steve's arbitrary censorship policies it may be a little bit of an issue, you know.

Btw: am I going mad or has the iPad thread disappeared?

Poor porn app developers. As said, just go develop for something else.

 

[grit]

If you make your living as a developer and you've just had your app booted off the AppStore because of delicate Steve's arbitrary censorship policies it may be a little bit of an issue, you know.

Btw: am I going mad or has the iPad thread disappeared?

If your working with content from the adult industry you are well aware of the risks associated in distributing that content.

 

[The Octagon]

First they came for the porn developers

 

[editor]

If your working with content from the adult industry you are well aware of the risks associated in distributing that content.

But if you've gone through the official procedure, had your app approved and then it's unilaterally booted off on a censorial whim, while bigger content partners offering the same kind of material remains in the store...?

 

[grit]

But if you've gone through the official procedure, had your app approved and then it's unilaterally booted off on a censorial whim, while bigger content partners offering the same kind of material remains in the store...?

Yes bit of a shit one for the developer, buy hey anyone writing for the app store that is aware of the game they have to play.

Yet they still spend the money on development so the risk reward ratio must still be compelling even with the censorship.

 

[editor]

Yes bit of a shit one for the developer, buy hey anyone writing for the app store that is aware of the game they have to play.

I trust you'll retain that same nonchalant, shoulder shrugging attitude if any of your work gets pulled under similarly arbitrary circumstances elsewhere.