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What can you do to make the user experience better? I've had on at least six phones now and even when I got free/inc video calls, didn't bother with them much.

Whilst Apple have made using things like the net on your mobile much easier, it didn't come much simpler then on the first nokia I owned that did years ago.

3G video calling has never taken off, there is no reason that would change with iPhones, its a user problem. A lot of the time people just dont want the other person seeing them, myself included.
 
3G video calling has never taken off, there is no reason that would change with iPhones, its a user problem.

I don't understand why they still bother to include them, I guess because they are so cheap and it was always perceived as being the future.

What I find intresting is looking the mostly US based tech blogs, I suspect its not something that has been common over there, people seem excited about and predicting dire things will happen to the networks with all the data, whereas most Europeans are meh about the whole thing.
 
What I find intresting is looking the mostly US based tech blogs, I suspect its not something that has been common over there, people seem excited about and predicting dire things will happen to the networks with all the data, whereas most Europeans are meh about the whole thing.

Asia is the only place where the market developed at all.
 
I imagine Da Yoof demographic would love video calling if it was cheap enough. It would make gigs unbearable though.
 
The major reason it didn't take off, apart from talking being good enough in most conversations, 50p per minute when it started.

The premium didn't match what the extra feature could offer.
 
The major reason it didn't take off, apart from talking being good enough in most conversations, 50p per minute when it started.

The premium didn't match what the extra feature could offer.

Specially when if you just wait till your both at home you can webcam as long as you like for free.
 
I can think of only two reasons to see the other end of a conversation.

1. To show someone what is going on, e.g. 'Look baby has learnt to walk!'
2. To get directions from someone who knows the area.

Neither need a front facing camera.
 
The major reason it didn't take off, apart from talking being good enough in most conversations, 50p per minute when it started.

The premium didn't match what the extra feature could offer.

I don't think it was just that, for a few years myself and mates had bundled mins and once we tried it for the novelty, didn't really bother again. like you say Voice is good, and you don't have to worry if you look rough or have to hold a phone in front of your face.
 
I can think of only two reasons to see the other end of a conversation.

1. To show someone what is going on, e.g. 'Look baby has learnt to walk!'
2. To get directions from someone who knows the area.

Neither need a front facing camera.
"Here I am in front of a big tourist attraction"
"Here I am in front of our family in Australia"
"Here I am in having a great time in the pub"
"Here I am with my fave teen idol playing in the background etc etc"

It's got zero attraction to me, but I can see its appeal if it's cheap and easy to use.
 
I very sometimes use my webcam to talk to my parents and that's it. Never felt the need to use such a thing on the go.
 
they must think there's a market there, or that there isn't one because it hasn't been Done Right Yet
 
they must think there's a market there, or that there isn't one because it hasn't been Done Right Yet
If the quality's good enough, maybe TV journo's/doco makers etc could use it too?

I dunno. I'm the same as you - I've no interest in cam chats on my phone.

(*obviously the porn industry will find lots of uses)
 
Im not really interested in using it for chat but certainly there are some vldeobloggers who might enjoy using it for 'record yourself talking to the camera' stuff. There are the people into live streaming over the net to an audience as well. Not sure there are a large enough number of these people to make a difference to sales at the moment but these seem to be the sorts of features that lots of people moan about when they are absent, even if they dont end up using them much?

Having seen better photos and videos the design looks far more like a real apple one to me than my first impressions. Looks aside, I expect it will feel slightly different to hold but I suppose not so much as to make a large difference, time will tell I guess.
 
Hmmm strategic 'mistake' by Apple?
I can just about buy the 'lost in a bar' bit seeing as the phone looks so convincing, but Apple usually dish out take down notices within minutes for even the tiniest leak.

Yet the Gizmodo monster-king-size-uber-leak is still online for all the world to see a whole day later.

:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
 
In other (admittedly far less interesting) news:

Opera Mini

Here's a review I've just written:

It's spectacularly shit. Really utterly shit. Just about everything - from compatibility, through rendering, to touch behaviour. Shit.
 
It's spectacularly shit. Really utterly shit. Just about everything - from compatibility, through rendering, to touch behaviour. Shit.

Maybe it makes more sense on other handsets. I use it on my Nokia a lot, and find it much better and quicker than the default browser. But then my phone doesn't have a fancy pants touch screen :p
 
Re video chat. I use it all the time and I'm not 'da yoof' or even Japanese. After the first coupla tries it gets far more natural. I think it's the best thing about the new iPhone. Besides the retro casing that is.. Which looks very cool indeed.
 
Maybe it makes more sense on other handsets. I use it on my Nokia a lot, and find it much better and quicker than the default browser. But then my phone doesn't have a fancy pants touch screen :p

I know...I even paid for it years ago for my Nokia when it wasn't free, only mobile app I've ever paid for.
 
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