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and he's got religious beliefs that made him turn down the surgery with an excellent track record :(
 
paolo999 said:
The iPhone killer app is browsing, for me.
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The iPhone is superb for browsing - none better - but for a lot of business users, email is the killer app and Blackberry, Palm and even WM all had the original iPhone whipped in that department.

I haven't seen what v2.0 has to offer yet, but they sure had a lot of catching up to do.
 
Nah, if he was scientoligist he would have a mad intense stare. Instead he has the slightly unnerving calmness about him, a buddhist.
 
Apparently the new iPhone still doesn't sync notes. And that is unbelievably shit.
Note-Syncing: The biggest waste on the iPhone is that the Notes application is completely standalone. It won't sync with anything, which means you're left with all sorts of buckets that don't sync up. When Apple released Leopard they included a Notes feature in many of their productivity apps (like Mail and iCal) that share the exact same styling as Notes on the iPhone, but they don't talk to the iPhone at all. In addition, the new MobileMe (see more on it below), which syncs virtually all of your iPhone's productivity apps, has no love for Notes, despite the fact that this is the app that one would imagine should be easiest to sync.
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You still can't perform wireless syncing either.

http://lifehacker.com/395548/iphone-3g-and-mobileme-our-thoughts-and-yours

Oh, and that price cut comes at a, err, price for US users:
t turns out there's a reason behind the iPhone 3G's dramatic price cut ($199 for the 8GB model)--AT&T has agreed to subsidize the phone, in return for a $10 increase in monthly unlimited data plans. Unlimited 3G data plans for business users will cost $45 a month in addition to a voice plan, presumably because of a higher consumption of data.

So even though the phone itself is cheaper, it will cost you more in the long run. That said, the faster 3G data service might be well worth it to most people.
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9964059-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave
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buddhist. he tried to beat the cancer with a special diet.
and of course the monthly cost is greater....
no iphone for crispy just yet then
 
dogmatique said:
If the price is right, as noted.
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How does free sound?

https://www.o2.co.uk/iphone/paymonthly

O2 said:
Best of all, the new 8GB iPhone won't cost you a penny on our £45 and £75 tariffs. And it's just £99 on our £35 tariff and new £30 tariff.

All tariffs include unlimited browsing on your iPhone, unlimited Wi-Fi access, visual voicemail and reduced roaming rates with our International Traveller Service and are subject to a minimum term contract of 18 months.
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So that's a new lower tariff (current lowest is £35), and a free killer handset on the higher tariffs, with lots of free minutes/texts and unlimited data transfer.
 
Blimey... :eek:

Existing iPhone customers can upgrade early to the new 3G iPhone for free*

To thank you for being an iPhone fan, we're offering you an early upgrade to the brand new version when it launches on 11th July 2008. You won't have to wait until the end of your existing contract, all you'll need to do is agree to a new 18-month minimum term contract.

*Best of all, the new 8GB iPhone won't cost you a penny on our £45 and £75 Pay Monthly tariffs for iPhone. And it's just £99 on our £35 tariff and new £30 tariff. This special early upgrade offer is only available online at o2.co.uk anytime from 11th July until 11th October 2008.

Take a look at our new Pay Monthly tariffs for iPhone.

Then just register your interest opposite and we'll drop you a line in early July to tell you what you need to do to be one of the first to get your hands on the new 3G iPhone.

Don't need 2 iPhones!

We want to make sure you find a good home for your existing iPhone once you upgrade. If you've a friend or family member already on an eligible O2 tariff, they'll be able to transfer to one of our new tariffs for iPhone. If they're not already with O2 or on an eligible O2 tariff, they could get one of our new iPhone Pay & Go SIM cards.
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I'm not too impressed that as an existing user i get the exact same offer as a new user and no trade in for my old phone.

Especially as i have no intention of upgrading to the £45 tarriff at a cost of £180 To save £99 and receive an extra 600 voice minutes (per month) that i won't use.

If I want to see any money back on the £270 I shelled out 7 months ago I need to flog it in a market place where there is a superior product for £99. Nice :(
 
editor said:
The iPhone is superb for browsing - none better - but for a lot of business users, email is the killer app and Blackberry, Palm and even WM all had the original iPhone whipped in that department.

I haven't seen what v2.0 has to offer yet, but they sure had a lot of catching up to do.
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Its all in his keynote speech.

Basically Business users have got an option for enterprises to sync their M$ apps with the iPhone.
An SDK and Aps store will appear to allow developers to sell 3rd party apps to all iPhone customers if Apple gets a 30% cut. No charge for by apple for free aps.
It appears for a home user like me, no syncing unless I want to pay them an annual subscription to their 'mobile me' service. Which is a waste of time as regards my work calendar as i still won't be able to sync with it (they allow blackberries via special authorisation and thats it).
 
You expect to get money back for a phone?? :confused:

I look at it this way: I forked out £300 and then the fucking thing is upgraded a few months later. I *can* sell on the old one but for fuck all $$, but at least if I want the new one I don't have to take out a new 18 month contract in parralell to my current one as they are giving me an upgrade path (at a cost of £59)

Who else does this?? What other phone manufacturer/Network provider will let you upgrade after 4 months?

I don't think it's a bad deal being an *early adopter* ;) My g/f gets my old iPhone, I get the new one. Happy boy :)
 
I've sold lots of phones on in work in the past and failing that flogged em to recycling websites.
I do have a mate interested to tell the truth in having my iPhone off me if i upgrade, he said as much ages ago but now i'll get sod all for it compared with what i paid.

I know its nice we get to upgrade early but they still get another 18 whole months out of us so they don't exactly lose out by offering early upgrade and they'd have create massive anger if they hadn't.

Still after seeing the new price and the new software I get the feeling that Apple want the iPhone to dominate the smart phone market the same way the iPod has dominated the MP3 player market. Ambitious maybe when this time they start against strong competition.

I liked being one of the few people around with an iPhone. Now they may become as common as muck I'll miss the 'ooh is that an iPhone?' factor.
 
Its also going to be available on PAYG, though the details of that aren't announced yet.

That would be cool, because I can have one without having to change my current contract terms or anything.
 
Phones not tied to contracts will fetch a premium. I'd guess they will be in the £200 - £300 range on ebay. For an edge phone, it will obviously be quite a bit less, but possibly not less than £100.

It might not be fab, but tech does depreciate like that. Nothing specific to Apple there.
 
paolo999 said:
Phones not tied to contracts will fetch a premium. I'd guess they will be in the £200 - £300 range on ebay. For an edge phone, it will obviously be quite a bit less, but possibly not less than £100.
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The old ones don't have a SIM though so will probably still be tied to O2 and their pricing structure.
 
Marius said:
or a home user like me, no syncing unless I want to pay them an annual subscription to their 'mobile me' service. Which is a waste of time as regards my work calendar as i still won't be able to sync with it (they allow blackberries via special authorisation and thats it).
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Hm - I get "Mobile Me" as part of my .Mac subscription anyway.

If the G2 iPhone will sync with my work exchange email, then I am definitely getting one.

:)
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Still this for me as well.

Oh, and cut and paste (why the fuck hasn't this been adressed yet? :confused: )


I'm due to upgrade this month, and there's still nowt out there to beat a Vario II for my needs.
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That looks a good phone - had never seen one before. I'm with T-Mobile too.

But I love the idea of an iPhone mainly cos it'll synch well with my MacBook and I don;t really trusy o.p.'s software.
 
Must say the tariff and price is a great deal better now but 18 months is a bit too long for me. My mate will be kicking himself, I told him to wait till July (he really wanted an iPhone) but he went for the LG touch screen which he now hates!

o2_iphone_3g_monthly_contracts.jpg
 
Just to cut through some of the iPhone 'Jesus Phone' hyperbole, here's the basics that are still missing from the iPhone:
No multimedia messaging
No video recording.
No voice dialing
No landscape keyboard
No cut and paste
No stereo Bluetooth profile
No user replaceable battery
No memory card slot
No Flash support
No notes syncing
No tactile feedback for the touch screen
 
Kanda said:
I miss none of those
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If you don't need cut and paste or syncing notes maybe you don't really need a smartphone?

They're both absolutely essential for everyday phone use for me.

But then I suspect Apple could offer an iPotato with a wire on it, and you'd be the first in the queue.

:D
 
editor said:
If you don't need cut and paste or syncing notes maybe you don't really need a smartphone?

They're both absolutely essential for everyday phone use for me.
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I want an iPod and a Phone and Email. That's all.

I never used to use my iPod cos I wouldn't hear my phone ring :)

I don't need all the bells and whistles, some are nice some I don't miss.
 
Thinking about it, even missing MMS would be a biggie for me, I use it all the time...


I just don't understand how Apple can have got so many things right, yet have missed out on such basic features.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Thinking about it, even missing MMS would be a biggie for me, I use it all the time...


I just don't understand how Apple can have got so many things right, yet have missed out on such basic features.
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I can view MMS on mine, there's a web app for it can't send obviously.
 
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