Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)
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hiraethified
If they fixed the glaring omissions above and slapped on a proper keyboard, I'd be delighted to use an iPhone.
Judging from the number of borderline literate Blackberry-sent emails I receive from people, many of whom should know better, a 'proper' keyboard isn't half as essential and useful as some make out.
Cut and paste still seems the glaring omission for me. I could do without the other features quite easily
Cut and paste still seems the glaring omission for me. I could do without the other features quite easily
Gromit
International Man of Misery
To be the perfect phone for me I'd like cut n paste, MMS and swapable battery (cause i cane the battery through browsing).
Syncing my calendar with work and home would be fab too but with my security paranoid workplace it won't ever happen. I'm not a business user anyway. I have it for the browser. Mobile net that is really usable and nice to view without having to carry a laptop around. iPod and phone functionality is a bonus.
Unfortunately americans aren't big on txt messaging i'm told. So MMS even less. They don't even care much about picture phones and so as Apple aims itself at primarily what merkins want us outside the US don't get what we want. Poo!
The touch keyboard works fine for me. I honestly don't understand why people have such an issue with it.
Syncing my calendar with work and home would be fab too but with my security paranoid workplace it won't ever happen. I'm not a business user anyway. I have it for the browser. Mobile net that is really usable and nice to view without having to carry a laptop around. iPod and phone functionality is a bonus.
Unfortunately americans aren't big on txt messaging i'm told. So MMS even less. They don't even care much about picture phones and so as Apple aims itself at primarily what merkins want us outside the US don't get what we want. Poo!
The touch keyboard works fine for me. I honestly don't understand why people have such an issue with it.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
1 No biggie for me, only send about three or four MMS's a year
2 Slightly more annoying but still not a deal breaker, use about the same as MMS
3 Utterly irrelevant to me, never used this ever, never felt the need
4 Odd I'm sure the touch does this...but again still not a deal breaker
5 Hmmm I don't use it often, have done in the past but it's not a deal breaker for me
6 I don't use hands free and really doesn't bother me not have stereo when I did
7 That's a real concern mainly because of losing your phone for x amount of time if it's being replaced
8 Meh, on a device with a min of 8gigs of storage I wouldn't be looking to expand, usb cables work a treat to transfer (the Centro has a card but its fiddly as hell to remove so wont be swapping that in and out often)
9 That's really shit, there's no reason not to support it
10 That's also shit, syncing is must
11 I've used the iPhone and had no problem with the keyboard. Like the Centro to use it well you have to kinda not think about it too much and just type.
The Groke
hot hail/Paging Dr. Beat
yup - works very well with my HTC touch and is suitably "Appley" in it's presentation
Kanda
Diving wanker
iPhone does it, I just tried it.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Right, makes sense.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It seems OK for bashing out a quick txt or two, but for trying to do things like editing a word document or filling in a spreadsheet (things I do all the time on my Vario) it's awful. And it's in these areas where a lack of cut and paste makes the iphone pointless.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
All of which sum it up to be a consumer phone and not a business 'smart' phone.
The MMS thing is a HUGE omission. Its the 1st phone that has a 1/2 decent chance of using MMS successfully and they don't include it. I can only hope Apple get round to implementing it.
Flash support is just wrong, but I wonder at the CPU's ability to render it without killing the battery.
Landscape keyboard, as you can browse in landscape, going portrait to enter text is going to be a pain.
The rest I have and don't use and don't have and don't miss, all completely irrelevant.
For all of its faults, as a phone slapped into a iPod Touch its a very nice shiny bauble. I want one to replace my old iPod and not so old mobile. All this talk of the appliations looks past what its best at and thats browsing and music with a bit of video and pictures.
If you think about what you do a lot of at a PC, its those in combination.
Kanda
Diving wanker
It DOES have a landscape keyboard.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
I await the PAYG deal.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
dogmatique
merde alors
They do, they're at the top - stick in a paper-clip and it's tray pops out avec sim. If you've jailbroken your phone, simply change the sim to any carrier you want. Easy.
dogmatique
merde alors
I use it a lot with work, for site surveys and the like
Seems like they've concentrated on integrating picture sending with email, not MMS. I suppose this is because MMS isn't very popular in the states, the same as SMS - which too, was poorly implemented at launch.
I presume sending site survey pics straight to someone's inbox is better than to their phone? Still - hardly revolutionary, but implimented very smoothly.
Still no real excuse though - especially as MMS would bring much higher revenues than pics via email.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
dogmatique
merde alors
Depends on the circumstances really, but at least with my Vario I have a choice
True. Definately an inexplicable ommittence.
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hiraethified
and that works in every application, like SMS?
Kanda
Diving wanker
All applications that revolve to Landscape yes.
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hiraethified
But you can't have landscape mode in every application, only the ones that will let you, yes?
Kanda
Diving wanker
Not all applications rotate to landscape so no. Why would you want to type landscape if the app isn't landscape. 90 degrees out somewhere there.
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hiraethified
So the landscape keyboard is limited to just the apps that support that orientation and is not universally available. Thank you.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Geezus..
It's available to applications that rotate, as I said. Be fucking pointless for an app that didn't. Are you being deliberately petty for any particular reason?
I'm not even fanboying here, just stating what it can or can't do, you're being ridiculously petty imo
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hiraethified
*picks up toys expelled from pram
I was trying to get to the facts of the matter. And now we have.
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