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pk said:
If you really want iPhone, buy it in France and hack it for any network over here.

Fuck the O2 contract.
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Why...? A French 8Gb iPhone is € 399, or £ 313. A UK 16Gb iPhone is £329... The same phone in the US is £ 248... :confused:

(NB: Officially unlocked French iPhones are only unlocked in France...)
 
3G iPhone within 60 days?

Coming soon apparently...

We have been hearing rumors and waiting for the arrival of the 3G iPhone, well, since the original iPhone hit the market. Lately however it is looking like we could be seeing a 3G iPhone sooner than later. Last November AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson was quoted as saying “You’ll have it next year,’’ while referring to the 3G iPhone, then a little more recent we had seen AT&T yet again spill the beans about the possible 3G phone, this time the statement was made during a luncheon at this past CTIA. While AT&T seems to know when all the fanboys will be able to grab their dream phone, its always nice when you hear it from another source, especially someone reputable.

Enter Walt Mossberg, he has recently made a statement regarding the iPhone claiming that “it will be 3G in 60 days.” As usual this is still just a rumor, but we can still keep our hopes up. I think the bigger question is just how many people will sell their current iPhone in an effort to upgrade to a 3G model. Personally while the faster speed would be nice, I am not sure I would run out and drop any more money while my current iPhone works well enough for my needs. And what better way to help further support these statements are the reported images that have recently surfaced showing off just what the 3G iPhone looks like, personally I am calling fake on the image, but we have it below, you can judge for yourself.
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And this is the image doing the rounds of what it may look like:

rumor_pic_3g-iphone-back_250.jpg
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Can't see why the logo lighting up will make much difference in that way tbh, it's already a mugger magnet! :D
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Well... (a) its unlikely the apple bit would light up. Bit of a waste of battery power, and there has to be space for a a led. (b) I don't feel its a "mugger magnet". Most of the time it in my pocket, and I don't go around being scared of criminals...
 
Price cut:

Carphone Warehouse and O2 have announced that they will each knock £100 off the price of Apple's 8GB iPhone tomorrow, as predicted earlier today.
Already own an iPhone? If you bought it from CW in the last 30 days, the company will give you £100 worth of gift vouchers, it said.
There's no comparable offer from O2, which also said the special price will be in force only until 1 June. The carrier also said the offer was subject to "stock availability".

From tomorrow, both firms will sell the iPhone for £169. However, the 16GB handset remains set at £329.
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Hello??? O2 clearly have their head in the sand when it comes to the iPhone.

18 month contract at 35 is 630 quid so even at free its still one of the worlds most expensive PDA's if you want to call it a PDA.

I can get a Dell Inspiron 1725 for that.
 
I saw they had loads of tacky A4 photocopies in the window of the CW on the way home tonight announcing the price cut.
 
Who'd thunk it, selling something cheaper stimulates sales!

Last week's price cut on the 8GB iPhone has paid off with multiple reports of stock running dry as UK consumers run to purchase on of the Apple mobiles, and further suggestions Apple may be preparing to abandon its revenue-sharing model for iPhone sales.

Success has its cost: Mobile Today informs that both O2 and Carphone Warehouse sold out of the model within days of last week's announcement. Apple continues to offer the model through its online store, but at the original £269 price, rather than the £169 its partners are offering the model for.

The report tells that stores in Newcastle, Birmingham and London claim to have already sold out of the 8GB model, with one Carphone Warehouse employee claiming sales had "doubled" since last week's announcement. Stock in hand was expected to be refreshed over the weekend, though sales of the 16GB iPhone remain sluggish, suggesting Apple may be forced to permit its partners to implement a similar discount on that model, should the company not plan to maintain it as an option in its future iPhone range.
The move to discount the 8GB model has been seen as an attempt to boost sales of the device, which haven't met expectations in Europe, and to clear stock for the anticipated debut of a 3G iPhone.
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It's good news for all mobile users if Apple's monopolistic business model flops and the price cuts are proof that the market didn't particularly warm to their big prices and enforced 18 month contracts.
 
Very much so. That price just doesn't cut it in the UK market.

Although no doubt the 3G version will come along soon and bump the price right back up again.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Who'd thunk it, selling something cheaper stimulates sales!
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No, really...? :D TBH the £100 price drop is only 10 % of the income generated by an iPhone. Would Apple drop the lock-in...? Probably, if the iPhone was successful without it and indicators are that there's a huge demand for the iPhone internationally. The lock-in just gives Apple another revenue stream...

Why the drop in sales of the 8Gb version. Probably because it will be made obsolete in two months time if/when the 3G version comes out...
 
editor said:
It's good news for all mobile users if Apple's monopolistic business model flops and the price cuts are proof that the market didn't particularly warm to their big prices and enforced 18 month contracts.
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Yep totally agree. Going by that article it looks like Apple are slowly learning to adapt.
 
Structaural said:
Little thing here, about how the European market have stung Apple:

http://www.hardmac.com/news/2008-04-23/#8163

Good. They need a kick.
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Not sure how they've been "kicked". Like any company they try and get away with much as they can... :confused:

Structaural said:
They can't sell it here in Holland as not one operator does Edge.


I wonder if I can get one of these instead:
http://www.nowisgood.com/?id9=Ad_2008Q2_instinct_accolade_300x250
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Cool...! Its 2007 again... :D Believe it when I see it actually working.
 
Well they've been kicked regarding expected sales, and control of their 'vendors' and I get a feeling they thought the fanboyism of American mac fans would be the same in Europe. I hear the price drop is merely to try and offload all these thousands of Edge phones before they're superceded by the 3g versions.
 
Structaural said:
Well they've been kicked regarding expected sales, and control of their 'vendors' and I get a feeling they thought the fanboyism of American mac fans would be the same in Europe. I hear the price drop is merely to try and offload all these thousands of Edge phones before they're superceded by the 3g versions.
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I'd think the only market where it actually mattered to get kick-backs from the mobile provider was in the US. Also Europe is a hodge-podge of different legislation, even after the EU so it would be very naive to think they would have the same strategy in each. (And I doubt Apple have naive people working for them...)
 
More on the coming 3G iPhone:

If you read our news page you already know most of this info because everyone is talking about it. Now of course Apple hasn’t announced this but there are so many signs like this internal memo from UK carrier O2:
“Due to the highly successful sales of the Apple 8GB iPhone, supply chains have run out of stock and will not be replenishing stock of this product as it has now gone to end of life.”
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The 3G iPhone will most likely be announced during the WWDC, June 9th - 13th with sizes of 16GB & 32GB and minor design changes. Rumor lists include true GPS, thinner design and camera in front (video chat).
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Engadget has the following:

So we've got it on authority that the second-gen iPhone is already well into testing, and numerous units are floating around in super secret pockets. A trusted source got a chance to check one out, here's what we've heard.
  • The first thing people will notice: the 2nd gen iPhone will be about the same size and shape as the first gen.
  • It will, of course, have 3G. And proper GPS!
  • The most noticeable physical difference is back of the phone is no longer metal -- the whole thing is glossy black, from top to bottom. The volume buttons are now chrome.
  • Because it's got a little less metal to deal with, it doesn't have quite as many angular edges. The battery is (still) not removable.
  • The phone itself will be slightly thicker than the first gen device.
  • The headphone jack will no longer be recessed, and will finally be flush with the body.
  • The device itself uses roughly the same size and resolution screen as the first generation product.
  • No solid word on battery life or storage capacity.
It could ship (or be introduced) as early as July -- but it's worth noting that none of this is necessarily finalized, and any of it could change between now and its introduction. You really never know with Apple!
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Is the iPhone merely weeks away from going into production?

Need more unsubstantiated evidence that the 3G iPhone is near. Good, the Chinese language Commercial Times is quoting sources claiming that Foxconn (aka, Han Hai) -- the maker of the 1st gen iPhone -- is ramping up 3G iPhone assembly by "the end of May" to ship 3 million units in June.

It's expected to produce some 24-25 million units before the product reaches end of life. If those numbers are true then Apple had better be prepared for a proper global launch without those pesky revenue sharing schemes seen holding back world-wide uptake.
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