Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[Kid_Eternity]

iPhone no longer available...

The headline kind of says it all, but if you weren't already sure enough that the first gen iPhone's stint in the UK was coming to a close, O2's pushing to make things crystal clear. It's hard to imagine both companies are going to just stop selling such a high profile device for too long, but clearly we're all still in the dark as to when its 3G replacement will officially be out.

 

[jæd]

iPhone no longer available...

Apple Store is showing them ready to ship in 24 hours. http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObj...o=MTE2NTQ&node=home/shop_iphone/family/iphone

Good to see Engadget isn't producing any hyped iPhone stories anymore... @ Engadget.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

iPhone Black

Appleinsider just outted what could be a huge AT&T webpage mistake. Apparantly there is a thing called an "iPhone Black".

Last month Ryan Block of Engadget said they had it on good athority that the new iPhone would be black on the back.

Is 3G the new Black?

Is this it? Is it a day early, a week early or a month early? We'll know soon.

Curious...wouldn't black be plastic? And isn't Apply trying to 'green up' its line with metal casings and less plastics use?

 

[editor]

Getting the name of a phone slightly wrong is hardly "a huge AT&T webpage mistake."

Talk about hyperbole! And since when is the colour of the arse end of a phone 'news'?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The colour, the design, the look are always going to be worthy of comment hence news...

 

[editor]

But it wasn't even that. It was a minor mistake on a web site: "The reference to 'iPhone Black' was simply a temporary placeholder used over the weekend for a scheduled catalog update"

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

The irony being that Apple could release an iphone with nothing changed other than the colour of it's case and there'd still be fanboys queing up round the block to buy it

 

[jæd]

But it wasn't even that. It was a minor mistake on a web site: "The reference to 'iPhone Black' was simply a temporary placeholder used over the weekend for a scheduled catalog update"

Good thing they used the world "black" as the place-holder.

The irony being that Apple could release an iphone with nothing changed other than the colour of it's case and there'd still be fanboys queing up round the block to buy it

Probably only them, though. There's a huge number of people who use Apple products who aren't fan-boys... And you can get obsessives in any population...

 

[editor]

Probably only them, though. There's a huge number of people who use Apple products who aren't fan-boys... And you can get obsessives in any population...

Be sure to point and laugh at me if I excitedly start posting up up hot 'news' about the back of a Palm phone being described as a being a different colour according to a tiny coding error on a non-Palm site. Then I'll know I've crossed the line into tragic fanboydom.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

But it wasn't even that. It was a minor mistake on a web site: "The reference to 'iPhone Black' was simply a temporary placeholder used over the weekend for a scheduled catalog update"

I was speaking generally but tbh it's no surprise really. This is how interest works...

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

My next phone will be an iPhone... in 18 months. Mind you it should be pretty good and cheaper by then... My iTouch experience has shown my the lighT!

 

[twistedAM]

I want one NOW but think I'll wait a month or two after reading this and will continue with the shitty Nokia.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

O2: 3G iPhone 'in weeks'

They might as well announce it with all the bloody confirmations coming out here, there and everywhere!

O2 boss Matthew Key says the 3G iPhone will be unveiled “in the coming weeks”.

Key made the comment when speaking to press and analysts after the announcement of the network’s first-quarter results this morning. He’s the Chairman and Chief Exec of O2 owner, Telefónica Europe, and he said his company would be making an announcement with Apple in the “coming weeks”.

Key declined to say exactly when the announcement would take place, saying, “that’s more of a question for Apple,” while promising a joint announcement. He also confirmed the network to hold a multi-year exclusive agreement with Apple for selling the iPhone in the UK and Ireland.
While O2 declined comment on how many iPhones have been sold so far, the network did add 206,000 new contract customers in the first three months of this year, according to its own financial report, which states: “This was driven by iPhone and strong “traditional handset” connections and excludes connections to O2 UK’s mobile broadband offer, launched in April.”

 

[dogmatique]

Anyone else with an iphone noticed that the little "E" in the box next to the signal indicating that you're in an EDGE area now flashes up "G" momentarily every now and then? Been noticing it since Saturday.

Obviously that doesn't make the phone 3G, but obviously they're preparing for the new phones, supposedly out immediately worldwide from June 9th according to gizmodo today.

My boss has in the last week claimed that his is broken, and needs a new one (I fixed it, much to his annoyance), and is now claiming he's lost it.

I'm just hoping he'll demand one, and let me get one too to assuage his guilt like he did with the first one.

One can but dream. I have absolutely no idea what kind of deal o2 will offer existing iphone customers, but I don't imagine it'll be good...

 

[jæd]

Anyone else with an iphone noticed that the little "E" in the box next to the signal indicating that you're in an EDGE area now flashes up "G" momentarily every now and then? Been noticing it since Saturday.

The "g" means you are on a GPRS network...

 

[dogmatique]

Well I've been using one for six months and never noticed a G before. You get an "E" or nothing - which indicates GPRS, not a "G"

From the manual:

 

[jæd]

Well I've been using one for six months and never noticed a G before. You get an "E" or nothing - which indicates GPRS, not a "G"

From the manual:

Since the iPhone doesn't (currently) have any 3g capability its not going to be anything else...

 

[dogmatique]

Ugh. You're missing my point entirely. Though no surprise there. I'm not saying the current phone is 3G, I'm saying that since Saturday, the mode indicator has been flashing a "G" momentarily when you wake the phone up, before switching back to "E" or a blank square.

My suggestion, seeing as this is a new occurance, is that o2 have been implementing something to do with the forthcoming 3G version.

When I'm in a GPRS area, it doesn't show a G, it shows the standard blank square, therefore, no, it doesn't indicate GPRS.

It makes no sense for Apple to suddenly start using a G for crappy GPRS when everyone knows they're about to launch a 3G version.

 

[jæd]

Ugh. You're missing my point entirely. Though no surprise there. I'm not saying the current phone is 3G, I'm saying that since Saturday, the mode indicator has been flashing a "G" momentarily when you wake the phone up, before switching back to "E" or a blank square.

My suggestion, seeing as this is a new occurance, is that o2 have been implementing something to do with the forthcoming 3G version.

When I'm in a GPRS area, it doesn't show a G, it shows the standard blank square, therefore, no, it doesn't indicate GPRS.

It makes no sense for Apple to suddenly start using a G for crappy GPRS when everyone knows they're about to launch a 3G version.

But current iPhone has no hardware to detect a 3G network, as well as no software to deal with it. And its very unlikely that any detection capability would be included just to demonstrate the presence of 3g. It would be noticed months ago. Plus, the usual symbol on other phones for GPRS is a "g". It follows then that your phone is detecting gprs, not 3g or any kind of preview network...

Additionally, there have been no recent firmware updates.

On the iPhone, usually a blank square indicates GPRS. However, there are indications that unlocked iPhones display them when used on 3rd party. (It is possible (on an unlocked phone) to change the icon so that a "g" is produced...)

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/960330.html

Perhaps you managed to change a settting somewhere...?

 

[WWWeed]

wow an Iphone blends really well:
http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone

 

[skyscraper101]

3G is all well and good but what about HSDPA?

Apple are well behind the times on this one

 

[WWWeed]

3G is all well and good but what about HSDPA?

Apple are well behind the times on this one

Tell me about it! My Orange M700 is almost two years old now, and it features everything the iphone didnt!

Yeah fair enough its got a shite UI compared to the iphone, but that can be sorted out with some playing around.......

Edit: thinking about it, the new iphone will have to have everything my existing phone has with HSUPA on top (I've been using HSDPA for ages now) before I would even think about getting one......

 

[Kid_Eternity]

3G is all well and good but what about HSDPA?

Apple are well behind the times on this one

It may have:

Get this. Australian site ChannelNews claims that a "senior executive of Telstra" is the latest 3G iPhone bean spiller. They quote the exec as saying the following:

"We know what is coming we have seen the new device and it will be available on our network as soon as it is launched in the USA. By Christmas this phone will be capable of 42Mbps which will make it faster than a lot of broadband offerings and the fastest iPhone on any network in the world."

Interesting. We know that Telstra's Next G HSDPA network has been capable of 14.4Mbps since 2007. At GSMA Mobile World Congress, they even committed to 21Mbps before the end of the year and 42Mbps using HSPA+ (aka, Evolved HSPA, HSPA Evolution) technology in 2009... not Christmas of 2008. Hard to say if this is just industry blow-harding or actual insider info.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The iRebellion?

The iPhone changed our culture. iPhone owners now expect to have a certain freedom on their mobile devices.

The challenge for Apple is this: Now that they have given us a sip of that freedom, we will only demand more.

If the iPhone is to continue to thrive, Apple must continue to quench our ever-growing thirst for mobile freedom by focusing on hardware and putting the iPhone’s software in the hands of the people. We are, after all, the ones who use it.

Step out of the way, Apple, cause we won’t be held back.

Smartphone users of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your data plans!

 

[Crispy]

changed our culture confused?

 

[editor]

Since I first bought my iPhone last June, I’ve owned six iPhones mostly because I’ve had to get mine replaced due to some problem or other.

Oh dear. The writer sounds like he should stop being such a fanboy and consider getting a more reliable phone.

Despite the problems, I stand behind the iPhone because it gives me one thing no other phone does: a blank slate.

You what? What a load of utter bollocks.

The iPhone changed our culture.

Good grief. The guy's an idiot!

Mind you, it sure sounds like it changed his life in a "I have to keep on returning to the store to exchange my shitty phone" way.

 

[Crispy]

he's got a point about apple needing to open the platform up though.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

he's got a point about apple needing to open the platform up though.

Yeah but most of the rest sound lunatic!

 

[jæd]

he's got a point about apple needing to open the platform up though.

Which they're doing with the whole App Store thing. (Apparently Android will get one as well)

 

[Crispy]

That's not open at all - registered developers only, and then apple take a 30% cut. can't imagine we'll see any freeware any time soon eh?