Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[Kanda]

You want a Laptop not a phone Ed

 

[editor]

You want a Laptop not a phone Ed

Not me. I want something small, pocketable and powerful.

Thing is, I don't like watching movies on handheld gadgets, but seeing as that's a major part of the iPhone's appeal, the lack of a card slot would be a real pain.

A 16gb / 32 Gb would also require being supported by the mobile using it... Eventually you'd hit hard limits on card size, though. And while your memory size would be unlimited, your contiguous memory size would be limited to card size...

Even the 'umble TreoCentro (unofficially) supports 16GB cards, with some punters saying that there's no reason why it can't support bigger capacities up to 32GB. I imagine other SDHC phones would be the same.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It is if you're keen on movies and MP3 files. In fact, weren't you were always banging on about how you wanted to carry all your movies around with you? So what happens when you run out of space on your new iPhone?

You're lumbered that's what!

With a memory card slot you can carry around a near-infinite amount of films. Much more flexible. It's a major omission from the iPhone, IMO.

I've already got a solution to that it's called the iPod Classic! If I got an iPhone I'd be prepared to make that painful compromise and not always have my entire collection with me...

Near infinite storage on a memory card!?!?

 

[jæd]

Thing is, I don't like watching movies on handheld gadgets, but seeing as that's a major part of the iPhone's appeal, the lack of a card slot would be a real pain.

How...? Once you've ripped a DVD and reformatted it using any number of one-click-to-iPhone-format apps they are only around 1.5 Gb or so...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Is your browser search not working?

But seeing as you asked, 16GB cards can be picked up for £45 (8GB cards can be bought for as little as £16). 32GB cards are only just coming through but like all memory cards, prices are rapidly falling.

According to this we're looking at up to £200 for a 32gb! So basically you want to add between £45 and £200 to the price of the iPhone!

 

[jæd]

I've already got a solution to that it's called the iPod Classic! If I got an iPhone I'd be prepared to make that painful compromise and not always have my entire collection with me...

If you've got an iPod Classic why not just bring it with you. That way you can watch movies all day (major power drain) and still have a working phone...

 

[jæd]

According to this we're looking at up to £200 for a 32gb! So basically you want to add between £45 and £200 to the price of the iPhone!

That Reg story indicates £ 90 for a 16 Gb card... Starts making that non-iPhone phone with its own memory slot look pricy...!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

That Reg story indicates £ 90 for a 16 Gb card... Starts making that non-iPhone phone with its own memory slot look pricy...!

SanDisk yesterday dealt its most capacious SD memory card yet: a 32GB SDHC that it expects to see on store shelves in April priced at $350 (£176/€235).

Yeah thing is if the iPhone came with an SD card slot the iBacklash Brigade would probably start screaming "OMGZ!? THOS CUNTZ APPLE WANT US TO PAY ANOTHER 200 POUNDS ONTOP OF 270 FOR THE iFONE?!!? WILL THE MADNESS NEVER END?!!!111?!!?"

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Microsoft considering Office functionality for iPhone

 

[editor]

According to this we're looking at up to £200 for a 32gb! So basically you want to add between £45 and £200 to the price of the iPhone!

Err, no. With a memory card slot users can easily add as much - or as little - memory as they like. No fuss, no bother and it can be as cheap as chips.

So, for example, users could carry around a few films on a 4GB stick for just a tenner or pack a couple of 8GB cards giving them 16Gb extra storage for just £32. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=102843

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that upgrading the memory on an 8GB iPhone is just a teensy weensy bit more expensive, no? Perhaps you could tell me how much it would cost to add an extra 16GB to a 8GB iPhone?

That Reg story indicates £ 90 for a 16 Gb card...

Here's a crazy thought. Why not do some research before blindly repeating something you read? That story is nearly two months old, and as I've already explained, memory card prices are "rapidly falling."

And here's the proof: you can in fact buy new 16GB cards for less than half that price (£42, in fact) from here: http://www.lowpricememory.co.uk/sdhc-memory-cards.html

Microsoft considering Office functionality for iPhone

And the critical part: "Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll see Word, Excel and PowerPoint on the iPhone any time soon."

 

[paolo]

The blogger surmised "Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll see Word, Excel and PowerPoint on the iPhone any time soon."

Edited to remove ambiguity.

 

[jæd]

Microsoft considering Office functionality for iPhone

Well... If Microsoft don't write a basic Word/Excel Editor then someone will... There's plenty of companies with closed-source open/save Office Document implementations. The only difference is that Microsoft would have the official one, and be able to include Office 2007/8 formats...

Constructing an open/save library from scratch for Office 97 documents, and even slightly higher wouldn't be a big problem, so expect to see one from someone....

 

[jæd]

Here's a crazy thought. Why not do some research before blindly repeating something you read? That story is nearly two months old, and as I've already explained, memory card prices are "rapidly falling."

I was asking for clarification. Its why I had the "confused" smilie... Here's another "crazy thought". Don't be so antagonistic all the time. Being nice costs nothing and brings you great returns....

 

[editor]

Here's another "crazy thought". Don't be so antagonistic all the time. Being nice costs nothing and brings you great returns....

Perhaps you should start practising what you preach because my response simply reflectes my frustration with your constant little personal digs and inaccuracies.

And if you lazily post up stupid claims, don't complain if they get corrected.

*waits for flounce #464

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Err, no. With a memory card slot users can easily add as much - or as little - memory as they like. No fuss, no bother and it can be as cheap as chips.

So, for example, users could carry around a few films on a 4GB stick for just a tenner or pack a couple of 8GB cards giving them 16Gb extra storage for just £32. http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_6&products_id=102843

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that upgrading the memory on an 8GB iPhone is just a teensy weensy bit more expensive, no? Perhaps you could tell me how much it would cost to add an extra 16GB to a 8GB iPhone?
Here's a crazy thought. Why not do some research before blindly repeating something you read? That story is nearly two months old, and as I've already explained, memory card prices are "rapidly falling."

And here's the proof: you can in fact buy new 16GB cards for less than half that price (£42, in fact) from here: http://www.lowpricememory.co.uk/sdhc-memory-cards.htmlAnd the critical part: "Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll see Word, Excel and PowerPoint on the iPhone any time soon."

Yet more goal post moving, you were the one talking about those figures gb wise, I was pointing out the cost...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Edited to remove ambiguity.

The Editor leaves out context when it relates to a product he's critical of? Never!

 

[editor]

Yet more goal post moving, you were the one talking about those figures gb wise, I was pointing out the cost...

And how have I 'moved the goalposts' please?

We're discussing the usefulness and price of memory card storage. You claimed that it cost 'up to £200 for a 32gb' and I pointed out that users could get that amount of storage for much, much less, while pointing out the uses and advantages of memory cards. That sure looks bang on topic to me.

But while we're discussing comparative memory pricing, perhaps you could tell me how much it would cost to add an extra 16GB to a 8GB iPhone?

 

[editor]

The Editor leaves out context when it relates to a product he's critical of? Never!

And here we go again. You butting in with yet another petty personal dig.

It's getting really pathetic now. Can you stop now because it's very disruptive and very childish.

Of course, if you'd bothered to add some context when lazily slapping up nothing else but an unexplained link, there would be no apparent 'confusion.'

 

[jæd]

Perhaps you should start practising what you preach because my response simply reflectes my frustration with your constant little personal digs and inaccuracies.

Please post examples of "constant little personal digs and inaccuracies"...?
And since when was asking for clarification of something an "inaccuracy"...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Apple's iPhone SDK Second Beta Released

Apple marches towards winning the smart phone war:

Apple (NSDQ:AAPL) took a quiet step forward this afternoon with the launch of the second beta of its iPhone software development kit (SDK). Apple sent an email to developers in its program informing them that the second beta was available for download on the company's Developer Connection web site.

"The second beta version of the iPhone SDK includes Interface Builder, Xcode IDE, Instruments, iPhone simulator, frameworks and samples, compilers, and Shark analysis tool," the site reads.

Interface Builder is "an application for designing and testing user interfaces. Developers can use Interface Builder to create user interfaces that follow the Mac OS X human-interface guidelines by dragging user-interface elements from a palette of predefined controls and dropping them into the window or view they are configuring," according to Apple.

Apple released the SDK on March 6 with great fanfare, demonstrating for reporters and analysts how it would enable developers to catch the iPhone wave while retaining control of the platform. Applications must be distributed via an Apple-controlled App Store and Apple will take 30 percent of the revenues to cover its costs.

More than 100,000 copies of the first beta of the SDK were downloaded by would-be developers in the first four days it was available, according to the Cupertino, Calif.-based company, although several developers who applied to participate in the program were declined by Apple via email.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

And of course having slain the other warriors in the smartphone arena the iPhone will then go on to lay waste to desktop computing too.

My generation's concept of what it means to compute is so quaint and firmly rooted in the 20th century. Young people and teens computing 10 or 20 years from now will look back and laugh at people like me (and, most likely, their own parents and grandparents) who sat down at desks and worked on 20-pound boxes.


The decline of the deskbound PC has been under way for years, but recent events convince me that the transition to desktopless computing is accelerating at a breakneck pace. What's next? I have a feeling that mainstream laptops could someday meet the same fate.


What precipitated these changes? The arrival of the Apple iPhone.

 

[jæd]

Apple marches towards winning the smart phone war:

Cool... No more trial + error when placing widgets... Should say everyone some time when writing Word for iPhone...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

The iPhone influence continues, check out the new Blackberry on the right...

 

[jæd]

The iPhone influence continues, check out the new Blackberry on the right...

That looks really cool... I wonder if they would bring out a 3g one... That would really give an Apple a competitor...

 

[paolo]

Not sure if this been mentione before, but there is speculation that Apple might be gearing up for OLED (lower power, higher res) - although might not ship until next year.

 

[jæd]

Not sure if this been mentione before, but there is speculation that Apple might be gearing up for OLED (lower power, higher res) - although might not ship until next year.

Its unlikely though this year as it might bump up the price by an easy extra $100. (NB: This is speculation, based on reading on the Internet, and not to be considered a 100 % accurate figure)

 

[Kid_Eternity]

A work mate looks like he's about to buckle and get an iPhone, I keep telling him to hold out a bit longer but his contract is up in a week or so and he's seriously tempted. I reckon he's going to cave!

 

[pk]

If you really want iPhone, buy it in France and hack it for any network over here.

Fuck the O2 contract.

 

[skyscraper101]

Why not just buy a cheaper one in the states and hack it?

 

[pk]

Why not just buy a cheaper one in the states and hack it?

That would involve going to the States, prohibitively expensive, when you can get to Calais for 2 quid as a foot passenger.