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skyscraper101 said:
Sure but how easy would it be to just make it compatible with a wireless keyboard and mouse for you to mount it on a screen stand and hey presto you've got something very similar to an iMac.

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Way too much faffing. What happens if you need to send off a long email on the move (which surely is the whole point of a laptop)?
 
laptops are more the default home computer of today - it seems a little pointless trying to claim that the primary purchasing decision is mainly based around the ability to send an email on the move. Most of us probably crave the ability to post FaceTwittering inanities on the sofa whilst shovelling burritos in our gob more.

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I'd be more convinced by the modular computing thing if Apple hadn't recently released the magic mouse and newer keyboards. Could be an opening salvo I guess - the technology's well advanced for wireless mac bits, from multitouch mice through online backup and dvd sharing
 
skyscraper101 said:
Sure but how easy would it be to just make it compatible with a wireless keyboard and mouse for you to mount it on a screen stand and hey presto you've got something very similar to an iMac.

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Easy enough, but the current incarnation of Apple won't do it.
 
editor said:
Way too much faffing. What happens if you need to send off a long email on the move (which surely is the whole point of a laptop)?
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Well you'd probably still be better off with a laptop. I agree it could never be all things to all problems. But they wouldn't sell it in like that I think.

*hazards a guess* They'd sell it to the fanboys as the ultimate device for reading and looking at things on the move and that you can sync to your iphone, download today's edition of the LA Times for example, browse you your favorite blogs and webfeeds, or read that subscription magazine you bought (on iTunes no doubt) and it would be much better than those dullard kindle and sony e-books with their monochrome façade and gimmicky design. And by the way, it also syncs with your mighty mouse and apple bluetooth keyboard and time machine so you can have a more enhanced experience at home as well as a portable solution on the move.
 
tarannau said:
laptops are more the default home computer of today - it seems a little pointless trying to claim that the primary purchasing decision is mainly based around the ability to send an email on the move. Most of us probably crave the ability to post FaceTwittering inanities on the sofa whilst shovelling burritos in our gob more.
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Phones do that perfectly well. Not sure why I'd need a huge slate to do it any better. If it can't fit in my pocket then I expect this device to be better at some tasks than my phone.

The Magic Mouse is a classic case of Apple over-design. Pretty but pointlessly epxpensive and not particularly good for what you're paying.
 
I'm not convinced about this picture of an established field of netbooks that Apple has to compete with, or it will fail.

It's not going to be a netbook. Keyboards aren't the be all and end all of devices. When the iPhone was introduced, a fair few pundits obsessed over this. They said it could never compete. Punters in their tens of millions didn't give a fig.

And it's not as if netbooks are pervasive either. Most people have a laptop. Hardly any also buy a slightly smaller one.

Also, it's a given that the Apple product will not be priced at the same level as netbooks either, which - from a software & UI point of view - have not advanced personal computing one single jot.

What it will share with netbooks is it not being in an 'essential' market. Everyone needs a phone, everyone needs a PC (or access to one). The middle ground is a niche.

It's that, more than anything else, that will limit sales.

Price and keyboards are a distraction.
 
paolo999 said:
It's not going to be a netbook. Keyboards aren't the be all and end all of devices.
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They have been selling by the absolute bucketload though, completely outselling laptops.

It's been a hot year for Netbooks, but not so much for the rest of the portable PC market.

Netbook sales are likely to hit $11.4 billion this year, a 72 percent rise from last year, thanks to a 103 percent leap in shipments, according to a new report from DisplaySearch.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10421063-1.html
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I'm going to get a netbook in the spring as my old Dell laptop is on its last legs. They're cheap; portable and I will only be using it for surfing and writing.
 
Will they be announcing a new range of Macbook Pro's as well.

I want to buy one, but Mac-rumours is telling me to wait, as a new range is overdue. :hmm:
 
Thing is - and I've been banging on about this for ages - there's loads of scope to improve the things or offer tweaked alternatives. A tablet one with a pull out screen would be ace because it would be a lot easier to watch movies/surf the web/play music without fiddling about with a traditional style lid.
 
I know what you mean. There's a new netbook coming out with one of those swivel screens to turn it into a tablet, but something about that 'single, multi-pivot' hinge design that seems like a massive bodge and screaming to break easily. I'd like to slide or fold in one single motion from notebook to tablet and I don't know how that can be done in a non-clunky way.
 
editor said:
They have been selling by the absolute bucketload though, completely outselling laptops.
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The article you linked to says just 20%.

"Our long-term outlook is that the mini-note share of the notebook PC market has stabilized, and will remain at approximately 20 percent through 2011 before starting to erode,"
 
spacemonkey said:
Will they be announcing a new range of Macbook Pro's as well.

I want to buy one, but Mac-rumours is telling me to wait, as a new range is overdue. :hmm:
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If you want one get one...unles you're a detail obssesive or need a boost in power the new MBP's won't offer anything more than a new processor. The unibody design is still pretty new so don't expect a design change, and the OS is also not due for a massive change.
 
g force said:
If you want one get one...unles you're a detail obssesive or need a boost in power the new MBP's won't offer anything more than a new processor. The unibody design is still pretty new so don't expect a design change, and the OS is also not due for a massive change.
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I'd wager they're largely dependent on Intel. I suspect that the MBPs will be the first, or amongst the first, to feature new quad cores with lower power consumption - the current i5 and i7s are a little greedy for laptops if anything

I'd be surprised if the slate or whatever it's called isn't announced at this event, even if production lags a little behind
 
Nobody's claiming that Apple are going to be first to the tablet or slate market, are they? There have been tablets and modbooks for ages, albeit clumsy looking in comparison.

The only thing that really proves is that Microsoft still doesn't get it. The market's clearly not crying out for another attempt at a MS Tablet with a crappy variation of Windows running badly on it.
 
skyscraper101 said:
Interesting how that HP device had a cradle/dock thing.

I'm positive Apple will also sell this in also as a device you can dock at home and be a lite home computer when coupled with a wireless keyboard and mouse.
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I have a tenner here that's yours if this is true.
 
tarannau said:
The only thing that really proves is that Microsoft still doesn't get it. The market's clearly not crying out for another attempt at a MS Tablet with a crappy variation of Windows running badly on it.
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No, but Microsoft's Courier looks fucking amazing with an interface that's streets ahead of anything else.

microsoft-courier-tablet.jpg

http://www.wirefresh.com/courier-microsofts-secret-tablet-project/
 
tarannau said:
Nobody's claiming that Apple are going to be first to the tablet or slate market, are they? There have been tablets and modbooks for ages, albeit clumsy looking in comparison.

The only thing that really proves is that Microsoft still doesn't get it. The market's clearly not crying out for another attempt at a MS Tablet with a crappy variation of Windows running badly on it.
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Microsoft Courier looks pretty good though. It's a shame that wasn't in the announcement.
 
It's been a long, long time since Apple was 'first' in a particular market segment. They just have a knack of polishing core functions to an irresistable shine and solving the little problems that nobody else could see or thought were inconsequential.
 
Yep. And, to a large extent, it's largely the same reason why i wouldn't bet on the Courier being a coherent, focussed product for a little while. Looks great in prospect mind.
 
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