Anyone else fed up to the back teeth of all the superhero shite?

[Reno]

Apparently there are no such things as trailers or promotional materials which might give one a vague notion of what to expect.

It's fine to not want to watch films because of advertising. It's rather arrogant to then think you have an educated opoinion on the films themselves and then lecture those who have seen those films, about their merits or lack of.

 

[krtek a houby]

For Marvel unbelievers, would recommend Thor Ragnarok, Guardians of the Galaxy 1, Spiderman Homecoming, Iron Man.

And Marvel but not Marvel Studio... Deadpool, X-Men 1-2, Into The Spiderverse.

Just don't go near Howard the Duck.

 

[NoXion]

It's fine to not want to watch films because of advertising. It's rather arrogant to then think you have an educated opoinion on the films themselves and then lecture those who have seen those films, about their merits or lack of.

I said I had an opinion. I didn't claim it was an educated opinion. Talking about my experiences and opinions is "lecturing" people now? Mad shit.

 

[Knotted]

I quite liked Howard the Duck. Didn't realise it was Marvel. Wow so it was. My opinion of Marvel has just gone up.

 

[krtek a houby]

I quite liked Howard the Duck. Didn't realise it was Marvel...

He's a Marvel character who worked fine in the comics, thanks to Steve Gerber, but the film is a mess. Not even a Thomas Dolby soundtrack or the involvement of George Lucas could save it.

 

[seventh bullet]

I enjoyed Ragnarok, Iron Man 3 ("I, I, I did that") and the first Captain America film. But it's still mostly meh.

 

[krtek a houby]

Agents of SHIELD is great silly fun, and you don't necessarily have to see the films in order to enjoy the show.

 

[N_igma]

They don’t really appeal to me, I was never a comic book fanboy growing up and as an adult in my 30’s I’m not really interested in watching superheroes go around trying to save the world. There’s also an undercurrent of American exceptionalism that runs through a lot of these films.

I know there’s exceptions to the rule such as Black Panther, and other films like Avenger’s Infinity War and Thor: Ragnarok that I’ve heard are must sees, so I might check them out someday. However, would I go out of my way to watch something like Ant-Man and the Wasp? No, I wouldn’t.

 

[8ball]

I enjoyed Kick-Ass. </tangent>

The thing with Joker was that it seemed like a different (possibly interesting) story, and the DC elements felt kind of tacked on.

Am looking forward to season 2 of The Boys coming shortly.

 

[krtek a houby]

They don’t really appeal to me, I was never a comic book fanboy growing up and as an adult in my 30’s I’m not really interested in watching superheroes go around trying to save the world. There’s also an undercurrent of American exceptionalism that runs through a lot of these films.

I know there’s exceptions to the rule such as Black Panther, and other films like Avenger’s Infinity War and Thor: Ragnarok that I’ve heard are must sees, so I might check them out someday. However, would I go out of my way to watch something like Ant-Man and the Wasp? No, I wouldn’t.

Not sure what age has to do with it. It's escapism, like following a football team or watching a soap opera or going to see favourite bands.

 

[Knotted]

Into the Spiderverse looks interesting...

 

[krtek a houby]

Into the Spiderverse looks interesting...

It's quite a step in animation. And it doesn't take itself as seriously as some comic films do.

Best animated superhero film since The Incredibles, I reckon.

 

[N_igma]

Not sure what age has to do with it. It's escapism, like following a football team or watching a soap opera or going to see favourite bands.

Well yes I understand that but I mean there’s so many films and source material out there, I just feel I’m too old to start delving into the universes to get to grips with it. I know you can watch some of the films standalone. And I do and will watch some that have got excellent reviews. But I just don’t have that much of a vested interest in getting to grips with the back story of every character.

 

[killer b]

Not sure what age has to do with it

They're films based on superhero comics. Dress it up how you like, but they're still basically for kids.

 

[krtek a houby]

They're films based on superhero comics. Dress it up how you like, but they're still basically for kids.

Like football, and going to see bands play, then

 

[Reno]

They're films based on superhero comics. Dress it up how you like, but they're still basically for kids.

So is Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and most other blockbuster franchises. They all are geared to appeal to kids and to adults for obvious commercial reasons. When you want to watch something for adults only, then modern big budget blockbusters generally aren't the way to go.

 

[killer b]

So is Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and most other blockbuster franchises.

absolutely.

 

[killer b]

Like football, and going to see bands play, then

not really. Superhero comics might have picked up an adult fanbase in the last few decades, but they're always been primarily and explicitly for children. Football and bands have always had multi-generation fanbases.

 

[Knotted]

Some kids stuff is great of course.

 

[krtek a houby]

not really. Superhero comics might have picked up an adult fanbase in the last few decades, but they're always been primarily and explicitly for children. Football and bands have always had multi-generation fanbases.

Will cut you some slack when it comes to some of the superhero comics, but there's plenty of titles that appealed to adults back in the day. EC horror, Heavy Metal, Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, Harvey Pekar's books.

Parents in the US were so freaked out, that comics were often treated like marijuana. The hysteria was akin to Reefer Madness. So you got the Comics Code, then.

 

[killer b]

I'm aware of the history of comic books ta. But we aren't talking about films based on the fabulous furry freak brothers or Robert Crumb or whatever, we're talking about films based on the musclebound men in tights comics. The kids ones.

 

[Reno]

I'm aware of the history of comic books ta. But we aren't talking about films based on the fabulous furry freak brothers or Robert Crumb or whatever, we're talking about films based on the musclebound men in tights comics. The kids ones.

Modern superhero films aren't "children's films" though, like all modern big budget movies they are made to appeal to a "multi-generational" fanbase. The action appeals to the kids, but then there is a lot of stuff in them which appeals to adults and which would go over the heads of children.

 

[krtek a houby]

I'm aware of the history of comic books ta. But we aren't talking about films based on the fabulous furry freak brothers or Robert Crumb or whatever, we're talking about films based on the musclebound men in tights comics. The kids ones.

I'm not familiar with the men in tights one. It does sound like a niche sub genre, though.

 

[TopCat]

Its dumbed down shite for people who cant focus or pay attention. Like watching Transformers with a five year old full of Kiora.

 

[krtek a houby]

Its dumbed down shite for people who cant focus or pay attention. Like watching Transformers with a five year old full of Kiora.

Which one, in particular?

Even though the old memory isn't what it used to be, can still enjoy subtitled films or silent movies or films considered "arthouse".

Same way will happily listen to Tangerine Dream or Taylor Swift.

 

[TopCat]

Which one, in particular?

Even though the old memory isn't what it used to be, can still enjoy subtitled films or silent movies or films considered "arthouse".

Same way will happily listen to Tangerine Dream or Taylor Swift.

All of them.

 

[killer b]

Modern superhero films aren't "children's films" though, like all modern big budget movies they are made to appeal to a "multi-generational" fanbase. The action appeals to the kids, but then there is a lot of stuff in them which appeals to adults and which would go over the heads of children.

I don't need telling whats in them, I've watched loads. With my kids.

 

[Brainaddict]

Into the Spiderverse looks interesting...

I found it quite dull.

 

[krtek a houby]

All of them.

Every comic book adaptation ever filmed?

 

[spanglechick]

I’d question how suitable a lot of the recent marvel films would be for children under 12. The humour is often quite verbal, they’re quite long, they can have quite mature sentimental content, and in the case of something like Doctor Strange, or the patriot-cynicism of the first Captain America, they can be conceptually quite grown up.
Again, they vary, and Antman is very broad and I suppose pretty juvenile-friendly... but the biggest fans at school are the sixth formers and it wouldn’t surprise me if the young adult market was deliberately the biggest focus.