Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
The one that really pisses me off is Captain America. He might have made sense back in the days of WW2 when he started, but post-Vietnam, etc etc he induces in me a profound feeling of alienation.
Anyone else fed up to the back teeth of all the superhero shite?
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Reno
The In Kraut
Did you actually watch the films, his origin as a mere WWII propaganda effort and how he progresses politically (with an eye on current US politics) ? Or is that a kneejerk reaction to the name ? The way the MCU films use him is complex and far from an uncritical endorsement of US patriotism.
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Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
Just knee jerk reaction l’m afraid
Reno
The In Kraut
I get the idea that bth
www.firstpost.com
It's an illustration for a New York Times article, about how blockbusters may change after the Covid-19 crisis and it is critical of superhero films.
Coronavirus Outbreak saves the world from Marvel, DC's shifty superhero spectacles this summer
The coronavirus outbreak comes to the rescue of one of the dominant modes of entertainment: to enjoy the spectacle of our own domination.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
As a kid, we had Marvel and DC comics. The former came mostly via the British reprinted and re-sized efforts. Amongst the young nerds, getting an American Marvel and DC was always a treat, the colours, the American adverts for Spalding and crazy x-ray specs etc. Later, we got 2000AD but that didn't get a superhero strip until '87 with Grant Morrison's Zenith.
TV rarely served us with the supers, we got Hulk in '78 which was great but seemed more like a story of the week and no real supervillains. And then there was Spiderman, the animated series and the live action. All lapped up but not great, looking back on it. We even got the comedy drama The Greatest American Hero which gave a lot of fond memories but I suspect it wouldn't hold up today. Then we got Superman (movie) and yes, we did believe a man could fly. The franchise exhausted itself and that was it until '89 when we got Batman. Huge success and the marketing bods tried to cash in on that with Dick Tracy. Yeah, he was a comic strip character but not a superhero. Gorgeous looking film, though.
Somewhere along the way, the nerds grew up and started making superhero films. Lots of them and like every other genre, there's good, bad and awful.
Unbreakable, Chronicle, Darkman, Kick Ass and the Burton and Nolan Batmans would probably be my favourites, but do love a lot of the Marvel output.
TV rarely served us with the supers, we got Hulk in '78 which was great but seemed more like a story of the week and no real supervillains. And then there was Spiderman, the animated series and the live action. All lapped up but not great, looking back on it. We even got the comedy drama The Greatest American Hero which gave a lot of fond memories but I suspect it wouldn't hold up today. Then we got Superman (movie) and yes, we did believe a man could fly. The franchise exhausted itself and that was it until '89 when we got Batman. Huge success and the marketing bods tried to cash in on that with Dick Tracy. Yeah, he was a comic strip character but not a superhero. Gorgeous looking film, though.
Somewhere along the way, the nerds grew up and started making superhero films. Lots of them and like every other genre, there's good, bad and awful.
Unbreakable, Chronicle, Darkman, Kick Ass and the Burton and Nolan Batmans would probably be my favourites, but do love a lot of the Marvel output.
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
That article is dated July 23, the image started appearing all over the Internet in April.
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Reno
The In Kraut
It's just a cheesy meme then, probably started as fan art.That article is dated July 23, the image started appearing all over the Internet in April.
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Behind the Meme: I'm Losing My Sh*t Over the Superheroes Bowing Meme
In this Behind the Meme, we explore the new Superheroes Bowing Meme depicting Spider-man, Batman, Hulk, and Dr. Manhattan bowing down to doctors and nurses, because "Doctors are the real superheroes" of the coronavirus pandemic.
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I think I've seen three Marvel films. One of them was Guardians of the Galaxy which I quite liked, I can't even remember the other films. I've never seen a Michael Bay film or an Adam Sandler film (people seem to complain about these two guys), this didn't happen because I avoided them, I just never had reason to seek them out. I'll go and watch eg. Julia Ducournau's Raw and I am happy. Some people love these films and that's fine. The only impact on me is that I miss out on certain conversations, but that's why we have Urban75 so we don't have to talk to people irl
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keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I want to see the next panel where Hulk straightens up and accidentally destroys the suspended ceiling, closing down the ward and costing the NHS £1000s
Reno
The In Kraut
Loved that !I think I've seen three Marvel films. One of them was Guardians of the Galaxy which I quite liked, I can't even remember the other films. I've never seen a Michael Bay film or an Adam Sandler film (people seem to complain about these two guys), this didn't happen because I avoided them, I just never had reason to seek them out. I'll go and watch eg. Julia Ducournau's Raw and I am happy. Some people love these films and that's fine. The only impact on me is that I miss out on certain conversations, but that's why we have Urban75 so we don't have to talk to people irl
I giggled all the way through it. Outrageous.
krtek a houby
Kick me again Jesus
I think I've seen three Marvel films. One of them was Guardians of the Galaxy which I quite liked, I can't even remember the other films. I've never seen a Michael Bay film or an Adam Sandler film (people seem to complain about these two guys), this didn't happen because I avoided them, I just never had reason to seek them out. I'll go and watch eg. Julia Ducournau's Raw and I am happy. Some people love these films and that's fine. The only impact on me is that I miss out on certain conversations, but that's why we have Urban75 so we don't have to talk to people irl
IMHO, there's only 3 Adam Sandler films worth watching: Uncut Gems, Punch Drunk Love, The Meyerowitz Stories.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Does Joker count as one of those superhero movies? I went to the cinema with a friend to watch that one because it looked interesting. They made their money on snacks from me that night, when I go to the cinema I just have to eat all of the things. It managed to be a pretty good film without having to fight off any alien invasions.
The last time I had gone to the cinema to watch a film, it was to see Independence Day: Resurgence. Main reason I went to see that one is because it looked as if it would be like its prequel, one of those old-school summer blockbusters, big on the spectacle but without any bloody capeshit.
None of the other films with Marvel/DC characters have looked even slightly interesting. I saw the Dark Knight once and it was... OK, I guess? Heath Ledger's Joker was entertaining, but then it always seems to be the case that Batman's enemies are more interesting. Otherwise I'm not really enthused by the superhero genre. I watched a bit of one of the Fantastic Four films (Silver Surfer I think?), and it didn't really engage me. In fact I don't think I've seen a single Marvel film that's pulled me in and made me want to see more.
So yeah, that's my conclusion. Superheros are boring and Marvel sucks.
The last time I had gone to the cinema to watch a film, it was to see Independence Day: Resurgence. Main reason I went to see that one is because it looked as if it would be like its prequel, one of those old-school summer blockbusters, big on the spectacle but without any bloody capeshit.
None of the other films with Marvel/DC characters have looked even slightly interesting. I saw the Dark Knight once and it was... OK, I guess? Heath Ledger's Joker was entertaining, but then it always seems to be the case that Batman's enemies are more interesting. Otherwise I'm not really enthused by the superhero genre. I watched a bit of one of the Fantastic Four films (Silver Surfer I think?), and it didn't really engage me. In fact I don't think I've seen a single Marvel film that's pulled me in and made me want to see more.
So yeah, that's my conclusion. Superheros are boring and Marvel sucks.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
I wonder if Guardians of the Galaxy is popular with superhero refuseniks because it doesn’t actually have a proper superhero in it.
I mean yes, I know the “star lord” backstory - but he’s a bit crap in terms of having any powers.
I mean yes, I know the “star lord” backstory - but he’s a bit crap in terms of having any powers.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Joker is definitely atypical of the genre, I'd be happy to exclude it from the ranting here, though it is flawed in its own way (and the idea it is anti-capitalist is clutching at straws). One Joker doesn't justify a stream of dozens of tedious and expensive wankfests though.
bellaozzydog
rolling turds in glitter
I’ve been using Watchmen as a background noise to my various activities
not a fucking clue what’s going on but eclectic soundtrack
not a fucking clue what’s going on but eclectic soundtrack
Reno
The In Kraut
So you haven't actually seen any of the Marvel/MCU films but they suck. I'm increasingly detecting a theme in this thread.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
So you haven't actually seen any of the Marvel/MCU films but they suck. I'm increasingly detecting a theme in this thread.
Do I have to eat shit to know that it tastes bad?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
When it comes to comics I always preferred the 'what if' strands like Gotham by Gaslight or Superman: Red Son etc. DC's 'elseworlds'. Marvel has an equivalent that I can't remember the name of. Some of the stuff I like made it to screen (Preacher) but as shows. That was DC/Vertigo bitd.
I still give most new comic book films a watch eventually although I have little time for batman films these days.
I still give most new comic book films a watch eventually although I have little time for batman films these days.
Reno
The In Kraut
I hated that film. Apart from being a lazy Scorsese rip-off, mashing up Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, it's an incel pity party. Give me any MCU film over that.
seventh bullet
sovietwave
One of the more interesting things about Resurgence story-wise (which isn't a lot) is the years-long continuation war in Africa between the locals and remnants of the first alien invasion. They could've further developed that part of the story and still had famous landmarks being destroyed accompanied by one-liners from Goldblum.
Reno
The In Kraut
Says the one who admitted that the only film they went to see at the cinema in recent years was Independence Day 2.
Reno
The In Kraut
Yes, they basically are like a more comedic version of Star Wars. As they take place in a galaxy far far awy, they also were the among the most self contained of the MCU films, at last till the joined up with the rest of the gang in the Avengers films.
I thought it had an enjoyable neuro-nontypical, off beat humour to it, particularly with the Drax character, so that's at least something. I like the old superman films of the 70's/80's as well and the Adam West batman thing. I don't like modern action films in general, watching John Wick or Inception were like watching paint dry for me (I had to watch the latter in four instalments, I couldn't hack it - the damn thing goes on for ever). Not everything is for everyone. shrug
In my opinion action films (with or without superheroes) should look to the Hong Kong kung fu films of the 70's and 80's - not in terms of fight choreograph wizardry (which of course they do) but in terms of slapstick humour and having a protagonist who is a bit of wally. (Maybe they do and I'm just not watching the right films...).
Reno
The In Kraut
The MCU Ant-Man and Spider-Man films have plenty of physical comedy and both characters can be rather inept.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Says the one who admitted that the only film they went to see at the cinema in recent years was Independence Day 2.
I said that I enjoyed it, I never claimed it was the kind of art that highbrow types swoon over at film festivals. I went in expecting a popcorn blockbuster in the classic mould, and that's more or less what I got. I'm clearly not in the target demographic for Marvel's particular brand of capeshit, despite all the marketing and focus grouping and other soulless chicanery that gets done to make that kind of thing. Nothing that I have learned about Marvel movies so far has made me go "ooh, I'd like to go and see that". In my opinion they are shit movies.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Some really interesting posts here. Wish I could add to them but my only comment is l like them. Not to the exclusion of everything else but I am more than happy to watch and rewatch them.
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How have you formed that opinion without seeing any of them? bizarre. I mean... you're right, more or less. But they're certainly no less popcorn blockbuster material than independence day II (and the best of them are considerably better).
Reno
The In Kraut
It's pointless to have discussions with people about films which they haven't watched. At least I've seen Independence Day 2, which makes me qualified to consider it one of the worst big budget blockbusters ever made.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Apparently there are no such things as trailers or promotional materials which might give one a vague notion of what to expect.
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