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Anyone else fed up to the back teeth of all the superhero shite?

Can accept that individual superhero films might be well scripted, acted and directed but don't understand their high profile as an adult audience genre. It's like if a quarter of all new cars sold were modelled on Mattel Hot Wheels dragsters and Wacky Races bangers.
I blame the rise of geek culture, which is culturally infantilising and obsessed with nostalgia and childhood. It all started with Star Wars.
 
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It's a bit like complaining about autotune ruining modern popular music, like there isn't a whole universe of non-autotuned music there waiting to be listened to, and you've never listened to pop music since you were a teenager anyway. Were you guys all into big-money hollywood films before they all went superpowered?
 
I've watched (or more accurately been made to watch) several of these things now and I couldn't tell you what happened in any of them.
I know right? I was once made to watch oh I don't know number 3 or 4 in a series and the person making me watch was deeply concerned that I wouldn't get what was going on because I hadn't seen the previous ones.
 
Only tangentially related, but I've been wondering lately if there are any properties - film, TV, books or otherwise - that feature superpowers but don't involve fighting in some way?

I guess there are certain fantasy stories, perhaps, but can't think of many where it's humans who have the superpowers and then don't go on to use them to fight people.

Similar, I was watching some stuff on Netflix a while ago and got really bored when it turned into just another fighty, shooty thing to resolve the plot.

I mean it's not like I'm a pacifist or anything. I'm reading a Richard Morgan book ATM. But it's just so dull and lazy. An interesting idea, but we need guns and 'splosions n shit cos people won't watch otherwise.
 
It's a bit like complaining about autotune ruining modern popular music, like there isn't a whole universe of non-autotuned music there waiting to be listened to, and you've never listened to pop music since you were a teenager anyway. Were you guys all into big-money hollywood films before they all went superpowered?

I'm just taking the opportunity to take a pop at a popular genre of film / TV I look down on, TBH.
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Only tangentially related, but I've been wondering lately if there are any properties - film, TV, books or otherwise - that feature superpowers but don't involve fighting in some way?

I guess there are certain fantasy stories, perhaps, but can't think of many where it's humans who have the superpowers and then don't go on to use them to fight people.
There are and they are usually closer to the horror genre. A favourite of mine is the Norwegian film Thelma which is about a girl with enormous superpowers and it's more of an art house film. Similar to Carrie, which is also a horror film about a girl with superpowers.




A couple of years ago there was Brightburn, the premise being "what if Superboy was evil". It featured a lot of gruesome murdering but not a lot of fighting.



M. Night Shyamalan also made a trilogy of superhero films which don't play like regular super hero films and are more like supernatural thrillers or horror films. Unbreakable, Split & Glass.

The Universal horror films of the 30s influenced many superheroes. Every version of The Invisible Man is about a supervillain (in a few cases hero) and The Hulk is a descendant of Dr. Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
 
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It's a bit like complaining about autotune ruining modern popular music, like there isn't a whole universe of non-autotuned music there waiting to be listened to, and you've never listened to pop music since you were a teenager anyway. Were you guys all into big-money hollywood films before they all went superpowered?
Hell yeah. I like 2012 and Independence Day as well as Come and See and Gummo.
 
I suspect the thing with the China market is not so much only an appetite for action films as them being the safest thing to import ans the censorship system here is a dead hand on anything but the most saccharine and obvious unless you really try.
 
I recently signed up to Disney for Hamilton purposes, and while I had it, thought I might as well watch all the Marvel cinematic universe films.
There are tonal differences but they’re almost all quite funny at some level, which I wasn’t expecting. I liked the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Thor films most.

by comparison the other big superhero films I’ve seen are either badly written nonsense (suicide squad) or a bit po faced.

Honourable exception for Joker, which was as entertaining and beautiful as you’d want a superhero-tangent remake of Taxi Driver/King of Comedy to be.
 
Zombies & super heroes, I’d rather drop me bollocks in the toaster.
I don't believe there is such a thing as bad subject matter, just poor execution. Even with superheroes or zombies, the occasional excellent film or TV series comes out. Train to Busan was a zombie film but it was also one of the greatest action films in recent years.
 
I'm not sure there's any real qualitative difference between Independence Day and Spiderman 8 tbf.
I think any MCU film is better than Independence Day. They actually make an effort to get good filmmakers on board, something Roland Emmerich most definitely isn't.
 
Yeah got bored several years ago.

bad dude arrives, they have a fight. Destroy half the city. Good guy(s) win. The end.
Rinse and repeat.
 
Yeah got bored several years ago.

bad dude arrives, they have a fight. Destroy half the city. Good guy(s) win. The end.
Rinse and repeat.
Any genre film can be reduced to a formula in that way. Then that can still be done well or it can be poorly.
 
Similar, I was watching some stuff on Netflix a while ago and got really bored when it turned into just another fighty, shooty thing to resolve the plot.

I mean it's not like I'm a pacifist or anything. I'm reading a Richard Morgan book ATM. But it's just so dull and lazy. An interesting idea, but we need guns and 'splosions n shit cos people won't watch otherwise.

I hate these fighty shooty ones because they don't accurately represent the realities of it. Too many kids think if you stab someone in the leg it's only a minor injury and a lot of the general population don't realise how long term things like physiotherapy and physical rehab are. That has awful real world implications
 
Definitely not into superhero stuff. At all. Maybe when I was 5. They're are too much other genres out there to get into that. But it is what it is and I get that people love that fantasy aspect of their lives. Just not for me.
 
There are tonal differences but they’re almost all quite funny at some level, which I wasn’t expecting. I liked the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Thor films most.

by comparison the other big superhero films I’ve seen are either badly written nonsense (suicide squad) or a bit po faced.

Yep - superhero movies that take themselves really seriously don't do a lot for me but I watched most of the MCU movies this year and I enjoyed them a lot more than I expected. I kind of dismissed the genre after seeing one or two duds early on, now I wish I'd stuck with it and watched the Avengers movies when they came out on the big screen.
 
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